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What's your favourite poem?

116 replies

PruniStuffing · 07/12/2005 07:37

Or poet, in general?

I think I'm getting Shakespeare's Sonnets for christmas.

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spruceylucy5 · 07/12/2005 21:40

Maya Angelou just oozes strength, doesn't she.

NoRoosmumAtTheInn · 07/12/2005 21:40

sorry, just thought that's a pretty obvious/conventional list.

janh, larkin does my head right in!

Janh · 07/12/2005 21:41

I love Wendy Cope too:

Haiku: Looking Out of the Back Bedroom Window Without My Glasses

What's that amazing
new lemon-yellow flower?
Oh yes, a football.

Fireworks Poems
(commissioned by the Salisbury Festival
to be displayed in fireworks)

l
Faster and faster,
They vanish into darkness:
Our years together.

II
Write it in fire across the night:
Some men are more or less all right.

He Tells Her
(for Ruth B.)

He tells her that the Earth is flat -
He knows the facts, and that is that.
In altercations fierce and long
She tries her best to prove him wrong.
But he has learned to argue well.
He calls her arguments unsound
And often asks her not to yell.
She cannot win. He stands his ground.

The planet goes on being round.

THOMCATsForLifeNotJustForXmas · 07/12/2005 21:42

I love this Larkin one:

Philip Larkin - The Old Fools

What do they think has happened, the old fools,
To make them like this? Do they somehow suppose
It's more grown-up when your mouth hangs open and drools,
And you keep on pissing yourself, and can't remember
Who called this morning? Or that, if they only chose,
They could alter things back to when they danced all night,
Or went to their wedding, or sloped arms some September?
Or do they fancy there's really been no change,
And they've always behaved as if they were crippled or tight,
Or sat through days of thin continuous dreaming
Watching the light move? If they don't (and they can't), it's strange;
Why aren't they screaming?

At death you break up: the bits that were you
Start speeding away from each other for ever
With no one to see. It's only oblivion, true:
We had it before, but then it was going to end,
And was all the time merging with a unique endeavour
To bring to bloom the million-petalled flower
Of being here. Next time you can't pretend
There'll be anything else. And these are the first signs:
Not knowing how, not hearing who, the power
Of choosing gone. Their looks show that they're for it:
Ash hair, toad hands, prune face dried into lines -
How can they ignore it?

Perhaps being old is having lighted rooms
Inside you head, and people in them, acting
People you know, yet can't quite name; each looms
Like a deep loss restored, from known doors turning,
Setting down a lamp, smiling from a stair, extracting
A known book from the shelves; or sometimes only
The rooms themselves, chairs and a fire burning,
The blown bush at the window, or the sun's
Faint friendliness on the wall some lonely
Rain-ceased midsummer evening. That is where they live:
Not here and now, but where all happened once.
This is why they give

An air of baffled absence, trying to be there
Yet being here. For the rooms grow farther, leaving
Incompetent cold, the constant wear and tear
Of taken breath, and them crouching below
Extinction's alp, the old fools, never perceiving
How near it is. This must be what keeps them quiet:
The peak that stays in view wherever we go
For them is rising ground. Can they never tell
What is dragging them back, and how it will end? Not at night?
Not when the strangers come? Never, throughout
The whole hideous inverted childhood? Well,
We shall find out.

Epiffany · 07/12/2005 21:43

Anything ST Coleridge really

mazzystar · 07/12/2005 21:45

mine is also "you're" by sylvia plath

NoRoosmumAtTheInn · 07/12/2005 21:46

some selima hill, from a collection called 'violet' (1997)

PLEASE CAN I HAVE A MAN

Please can I have a man who wears corduroy.
Please can I have a man
who knows the names of 100 different roses;
who doesn't mind my absent-minded rabbits
wandering in and out
as if they own the place,
who makes me creamy curries from fresh lemon-grass,
who walks like Belmondo in A Bout de Souffle;
who sticks all my carefully-selected postcards -
sent from exotic cities
he doesn't expect to come with me to,
but would if I asked, which I will do -
with nobody else's, up on his bedroom wall,
starting with Ivy, the Famous Diving Pig,
whose picture, in action, I bought ten copies of;
who talks like Belmondo too, with lips as smooth
and tightly-packed as chocolate-coated
(melting chocolate) peony buds;
who knows that piling himself stubbornly on top of me
like a duvet stuffed with library books and shopping-bags
is all too easy: please can I have a man
who is not prepared to do that.
Who is not prepared to say I'm 'pretty' either.
Who, when I come trotting in from the bathroom
like a squealing freshly-scrubbed piglet
that likes nothing better than a binge
of being affectionate and undisciplined and uncomplicated,
opens his arms like a trough for me to dive into.

BEING SINGLE

Being single's never being nude.
Being single's wearing hats in bed.
Being single's trying to get to sleep
and constantly being interrupted
by important-looking spiders
marching off
to the best poison shops;
by moths like bats
banging their fat heads
against my pillow;
by bats whose plan
is to station themselves in my hair,
by mean-looking flies
doing their lengths on my window,
and indomitable old cockchafers
rehearsing their clicketty-clacks
at such a pitch
all I want to do is go to sleep
and dream about a woman - is it me? -
running towards you with her arms outstretched
in a little knee-length dress that suits her perfectly.
But no. I can't.
I've got to stay awake.
Every ant in England's on its way.
They're coming in red columns from all sides
driving flocks of ferocious-looking sheep.

THE WORLD'S ENTIRE WASP POPULATION

This feeling I can't get rid of,
this feeling that someone's been reading
my secret diary
that I kept in our bedroom
because I thought nobody else but us
would want to go in there,
except it's not my diary,
it's my husband,
I'd like you to smear this feeling
all over and into her naked body like jam
and invite the world's entire wasp population,
the sick, the halt, the fuzzy,
to enjoy her.

I WILL BE ARRIVING NEXT THURSDAY IN MY WEDDING-DRESS

I will be arriving next Thursday in my wedding-dress.
I will be arriving next Thursday morning
at seven o'clock
in a white satin wedding-dress
the colour and texture
of one-hundred-per-cent-fit Bull Terriers
that feel like eels;
he will hear me
calling his name across the waterfalls,
and, craning his neck
(he's as small as a small jockey),
he will suddenly see me
staring at him through his kitchen window -
my ankle-length satin wedding-dress
dragged over to one side by a large rucksack
containing nougat, maps
and a rocky island
crossed by the tracks of relays of stocky horses
carrying the world's fiercest
and most nimble seamstresses
towards a bed piled high for him and me
with eiderdowns that hold a million lips
peeled from the heads of skilfully-dried
small lovers.

PruniStuffing · 07/12/2005 21:48

Roosmum, I read 'You're' whilst pregnant, perhaps why it affects me so.

Really good ideas on this thread. Interesting how much Carol Ann Duffy, we will have to commission a new anthology: "Mumsnet in Poetry'.

Titles such as "Good Cod It's You Again' or 'TitSong'

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Janh · 07/12/2005 21:50

Larkin is incredible, isn't he, TC?

PruniStuffing · 07/12/2005 21:52

"I will be arriving next thursday in my wedding dress' - Thread crossover, that poem is clearly for Harpsichordcarrier and about the delectable (?) Richard Hammond.

Love Selima Hill!

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Janh · 07/12/2005 21:56

There is a fabulous one by Roger McGough called Cinders, about taking his small daughter home from the panto when he was in his 50s and wondering if he would see her grown up. I have it in a book somewhere but can't find it online - this bit is from an Indie review:

In "Cinders", for example, he writes of the exquisite poignancy of second-time fatherhood: "Hunched against the wind and hobbling/ I could be mistaken for your grandfather/ And sensing this, I hold you tighter still.// Knowing that I will never see you dressed for the Ball/ Be on hand to warn you against Prince Charmings/ And the happy ever afters of pantomime."

He read it when he was on DID ages ago - very moving.

welshboris · 07/12/2005 21:59

Plath, Larkin and being Welsh anything by Dylan Thomas

spruceylucy5 · 07/12/2005 21:59

ooh jan thats spooky I was just googling cinders by someone else, who I cant remember! Not mcGough Though. Any ideas?

Janh · 07/12/2005 22:00

Brian Patten, about his mother? (It came up when I was looking)

NoRoosmumAtTheInn · 07/12/2005 22:02

just for you welshboris! (& moondog, if she's around)

'Synopsis of the Great Welsh Novel '

Dai K lives at the end of a valley. One is not quite sure
Whether it has been drowned or not. His Mam
Loves him too much and his Dada drinks.
As for his girlfriend Blodwen, she's pregnant. So
Are all the other girls in the village ? there's been a Revival.
After a performance of Elijah, the mad preacher
Davies the Doom has burnt the chapel down.
One Saturday night after the dance at the Con Club,
With the Free Wales Army up to no good in the back-lanes,
A stranger comes to the valley; he is, of course,
God, the well-known television personality. He succeeds
In confusing the issue, whatever it is, and departs
On the last train before the line is closed.
The colliery blows up, there is a financial scandal
Involving all the most respected citizens; the Choir
Wins at the National. It is all seen, naturally,
Through the eyes of a sensitive boy who never grows up.
The men emigrate to America, Cardiff and the moon. The girls
find rich and foolish English husbands. Only daft Ianto
Is left to recite the Complete Works of Sir Lewis Morris
To puzzled sheep, before throwing himself over
The edge of the abandoned quarry. One is not quite sure
Whether it is fiction or not.

Harri Webb

ISawFrannyandZooeyKissingSanta · 07/12/2005 22:02

I've always liked "You're", but it wasn't until I was copying it out for a friend while I was pregnant that I cottoned on it was a love song to her unborn foetus. Glorious poem.

Janh · 07/12/2005 22:03

In Cinders Patten laments the death of his mother, whose 'Life was never a fairy-tale', and in Armada recounts his nostalgic reminiscence of childhood days spent with her. Just as a child's paper boat was blown out of reach by a gust of wind, so too was his mother 'Blown out of reach by the smallest whisper of death'.

For as on a pond a child's paper boat
was blown out of reach
by the smallest gust of wind,
so too have you been blown out of reach
by the smallest whisper of death...

('The Armada' - Armada. p. 14-15)

Janh · 07/12/2005 22:04

That was from here btw

spruceylucy5 · 07/12/2005 22:05

Cinders soon is a really moving poem and I cant find it anywhere will keep trying.

yoyo · 07/12/2005 22:06

JanH - DH just popped back so I asked him the question and he immediately said "Aubade". I can barely read it as it keeps me awake at night. I am reminded of my first awareness of death and I can still hear my father say "we will all die". I was very young but have never forgotten it. "Yet can't accept" that's me.

LilacBump · 07/12/2005 22:07

When I Am an Old Woman I Shall Wear Purple

By Jenny Joseph

When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple
with a red hat that doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
and satin candles, and say we've no money for butter.

I shall sit down on the pavement when I am tired
and gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
and run my stick along the public railings
and make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
and pick the flowers in other people's gardens
and learn to spit.

You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
and eat three pounds of sausages at a go
or only bread and pickles for a week
and hoard pens and pencils and beer nuts and things in boxes.
But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
and pay our rent and not swear in the street
and set a good example for the children.
We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.
But maybe I ought to practice a little now?
So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple.

harpsiheraldangelssing · 07/12/2005 22:07

oh god not Sylvia Plath [weary emoticon]
that woman set the cause of feminism back thirty years

HC runs for the hiiiiiillllls

Janh · 07/12/2005 22:09

Cinders Soon is the Brian Patten one according to this, lucy:

From here (scroll down)

yoyo · 07/12/2005 22:11

Phew! The Harri Webb may have saved me from a sleepless night (and I read it in my best Welsh accent - I am Welsh so allowed). I'm not familiar with him - any links?

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