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10 tips on how to start writing or drawing – even when you think you have no time to spare by Anna Davis of Curtis Brown Creative

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 18/09/2018 16:59

I first started writing novels as a footloose and fancy-free twenty-something, with no kids and no responsibility for anyone but myself. Looking back now, twenty years later, I can hardly believe the luxurious vats of time I was floating around in, and just how much I was able to produce.

But quantity isn’t everything, and neither is fresh-faced youth. Writing isn’t primarily a young person’s game. Experience, insight and – dare I say it – wisdom – enrich the work. And when you’re time-poor, you value your writing time more highly and use it more effectively. Here are some tips to help get you started:

  1. Find your best time: many people write early in the morning – your thinking can be fresh at the crack of dawn before the day starts intruding. But maybe evenings, when the kids are in bed, will suit you better. If you can’t find the time to write daily, try to squeeze in a couple of hours at the weekend. However, little and often is better than long but infrequent. It’s harder to hold your project in your head with long gaps between sessions.

  2. Just do it: if the blank page frightens you, try free-writing using prompts – there are loads online and something interesting may come of it. Then ask yourself ‘what if’ questions to tease out a storyline. Join in with our monthly writing competitions on Twitter - @CBCreative #WriteCBC – or if illustration’s your thing, our brilliant tutor Sarah McIntyre hosts daily Twitter drawing challenges on @studioteabreak. Keep a notebook, too – build your confidence by producing material, learning from mistakes as you go.

  3. Active Planning: i’m often asked how much planning you should do. I’d say figure out the bones of what you’re working on, and what lies at its heart – but write your way into the story before things become too rigid. You can return to your plan frequently throughout the writing process to put flesh on the bones. This process will also help if you get stuck.

  4. Keep moving forward: don’t obsess over style, or worry about scenes that aren’t quite right. Fix problems at the editing stage with a complete draft in hand. If you’re fiddling a lot as you go, try writing longhand to freshen things up. For illustrators, Sarah McIntyre advises not to labour away on intricate drawings that ‘get all tight’. She recommends ‘doing some bad drawing’ to free yourself up.

  5. Targets and deadlines: setting yourself small goals, such as a daily or weekly word count, can be helpful – as can self-imposed deadlines for completing a draft. But don’t give yourself a hard time when you miss targets – sometimes you need to reflect and let your back-brain catch up, and this can be more important than the word count.

  6. End your writing session mid-scene or even mid-sentence: it’s tempting to stop when you hit the end of a chapter, but if you push forward a little way into the next section, you’ll find it easier to get going again when you settle back into work.

  7. Get reading: if you want to be a writer, you must also be a reader. Read the stuff you love and books that are newly published to get a good sense of what’s out there. But above all, read.

  8. Start with story: many writers spend a long time ‘setting up’ scenes and characters before they make anything happen. My advice is to get straight into your story, introducing your characters only when they have a role to play. In every scene, check that you aren’t starting too early and ending too late. We don’t need someone ringing the bell and waiting for it to be answered. Put your character straight into the room where the story happens. Get in and then get out again as quickly as you can.

  9. Character motivation: be clear about your characters’ motivations. Know what they want – and what will stop them from getting what they want. This gives rise to conflict – and where there’s conflict, there’s a story.

  10. Edit: polish your work to a shine. Print it out and edit on paper to spot things you’ll have missed on screen. And read it aloud to hear how it flows, particularly dialogue.

  11. And a cheeky eleventh tip: check out our novel-writing courses at www.curtisbrowncreative.co.uk, including our brand new courses for people wanting to write and illustrate children’s picture books. Most are online, allowing you to take part from wherever you are, at whatever time works best for you.

This guest post is sponsored by Curtis Brown Creative

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sydneysideup · 24/09/2018 20:59

That’s great advice thanks so much.

HollowTalk · 24/09/2018 21:03

Ooooh is this still going on? I forgot it was Monday! My question is this: what do you think the next big thing will be after psychological suspense?

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:05

@Madhairday

Thanks for some great tips, Anna.

My question is about submissions and when to give up Grin if you've submitted your novel to a load of agents and got some very complementary rejections and quite a few full MS requests, but it's gone nowhere from there, do you give it up as just one of those things? Write something else? Keep trying?

Thank you!!

Hi Madhairday, Rejection is tough - and it happens to all of us. If you've had full M/S requests and if the rejections have been complimentary, then you've done really well. DON'T give up - definitely keep trying. There are loads of agents out there so make sure you've tried lots - don't be put off when you've tried only a few. If the rejections give specific feedback on your work (rather than simply saying the agent really liked it but not enough to take it on etc), then that's a particularly good sign. Think then about whether you have lots of bits of feedback which are pointing at broadly the same issues. If it becomes clear that you need to do some rewriting to fix the problem(s) being highlighted by the agents, then go ahead and do it - it could well be worth it. But then - unless the agents are asking to see a rewritten version, try your edited novel on some new people. (Though if agents ask to see a rewritten version, then definitely send it to them. And if they ask to see future work, make a note of that so you can send to them again). Sometimes, of course, it does become necessary to set your novel aside and move on to the next one - either because you feel you're running out of steam with the submission and no longer know what to do to fix it - or actually if you get a new idea and feel really excited to move on to the next novel. In my view, the time you've spend working on that novel is never wasted. You'll either figure out how to fix it later, or you'll use material or characters from it in something else - or you'll just come to see that the writing of it has taught you useful lessons that you'll take to your next project. Best of luck!

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:08

@HollowTalk

Ooooh is this still going on? I forgot it was Monday! My question is this: what do you think the next big thing will be after psychological suspense?

Hi HollowTalk - yes it's still going on. In a way we're already moving on from psychological suspense (though of course it's not over yet!). Publishers are particularly keen on 'Uplit' now - i.e. novels with a strong emotional story which ultimately show triumph over adversity. They're often funny but darkly so - though they tend to have an upward trajectory (hence Uplit). Eleanor Olliphant is an example - and really is the key trend-setting book here. Also supernatural thrillers are making a comeback at the moment, a little Gothic Horror, Grounded scifi (which is a bit like dystopian fiction - think The Handmaid's Tale, The Power). And publishers are very keen to find fresh stories from diverse voices.

HollowTalk · 24/09/2018 21:10

Thanks for your reply, Anna. I'm a published writer, writing psychological suspense and have been wondering how long it will last! Some good ideas there, thanks.

HollowTalk · 24/09/2018 21:12

I know someone who's writing something very much like the sort of thing you mention. She's halfway through her novel. Should she wait until it's finished before sending it out?

2018ismyyear2018 · 24/09/2018 21:13

Hi. Cutting to the chase, what could a best selling author, e.g someone who was at the top of the Kindle charts expect to earn: a. as an advance and then b. in ongoing royalties. I am sure that anyone who writes does not do it for the money but it would be interesting to be given a ball park figure.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:14

@LurkingElle

Would you recommend that debut writers enter competitions - are you more likely to offer representation to someone whose work has been shortlisted for an award?

Hi LurkingElle, It really depends ... There are loads of competitions out there, and it can work really well to enter some of the best known ones like the Bath Novel Award and the Bridport prize - but there are really masses out there, and many of them go completely unnoticed by agents and major publishers. Look carefully at any prize to see if it looks GOOD - if it has been written about and covered well in press etc and mentioned in interviews by publishers/agents etc. Look at who is judging it, look at what the prizes are (e.g. if the prize is publication by an incredibly obscure publisher, you may find it's not worth having and becomes actively problematic for you if you sign a contract that's really not a fair one). Also be a bit wary of competitions that charge an entrance fee: It's not unreasonable to charge a bit, as competition administration can be expensive, and not every organisation has the funds to pay for it. But some competitions are basically there to take your money and won't give you much in return. Be cautious - read the small print, but yes, some competitions are very useful indeed.

HollowTalk · 24/09/2018 21:14

You get the advance BEFORE you get to the top of the charts, 2018!

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:18

@2018ismyyear2018

Hi. Cutting to the chase, what could a best selling author, e.g someone who was at the top of the Kindle charts expect to earn: a. as an advance and then b. in ongoing royalties. I am sure that anyone who writes does not do it for the money but it would be interesting to be given a ball park figure.

Hi 2019ismyyear2018 - I'm going to be really annoying, I'm afraid: This is a completely how-long-is-a-piece of string question. Even if we look only at best-selling authors, there is still a massive difference in what they earn. The sad truth is that most of the money that is paid to authors is paid to a very few of them, and most published authors (even those who've at some point made it on to the bestseller list) have to do other work alongside writing, such as journalism, teaching, or other non-writing jobs. Some people, on the other hand, do make a gazillion. It's definitely NOT a good idea to write for money ... Write because you love it and you have to do it

2018ismyyear2018 · 24/09/2018 21:18

Hi HollowTalk. I appreciate that, apologies, my question could have been better worded. If publishers expect a book will do well, what range of advance is payable and what range of royalties could a best selling author expect in the year following publication.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:18

@HollowTalk

You get the advance BEFORE you get to the top of the charts, 2018!

Not necessarily - self-published authors don't get advances and some are very successful. And there are other authors who get a very low advance but still end up as bestsellers earning high royalties

2018ismyyear2018 · 24/09/2018 21:19

Thank you.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:20

@HollowTalk

I know someone who's writing something very much like the sort of thing you mention. She's halfway through her novel. Should she wait until it's finished before sending it out?

Hi HollowTalk - to be honest, I'd always recommend finishing the novel and polishing it as much as possible before sending it out. Best not to give agents any reason to turn it down. If they start reading and really like it, they'll ask to see the whole manuscript - and if it doesn't exist yet, that's frustrating all round.

thelioncub · 24/09/2018 21:23

Hi Anna, Thanks for all the helpful posts and tips. I'm a British aspiring author, currently pitching to literary agents (whilst also writing and about to study on a CB course) Our family is worried about the effects of Brexit and are considering a move to Germany. Do you think this would affect my chance of getting a literary agent? I know I can study online and pitch from anywhere in the world, but I'd still be writing in English and thus couldn't start pitching to German agents. If moving would even remotely lower my chances, then we would struggle on here and hope for the best!

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:24

@AlphaMama

My problem is that I can't face writing at the end of a long day. Everyone says 'if you love it enough...' but I'm a mum and work full time - I'm knackered! Any advice for summoning your drive when you feel like you've used all your creativity in your day job that pays the bills? :(

Hi AlphaMama, I have a lot of sympathy with your position - and, to be honest, I often struggle myself. Is there a way for you to find time that ISN'T at the end of the day? For instance, early mornings? (A killer, I do realise), or is there someone to look after your child/children for a couple of hours at some point in the week or weekend? Even if you can only sit down to right once a week, you can make steady progress that way. If you work full-time, do you travel to work by train/bus? If so, many people actually find they can do little bits of writing on their journey - or possibly in your lunch hour? That might all feel like a real slog, and I do know it's hard, but it'll only happen if you value your writing and make time for it the way you would for other things that are important in your life. Hope that's more helpful than annoying!

HollowTalk · 24/09/2018 21:28

Thanks for your advice, Anna.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:34

@gendercritter

How do you personally square the ethics of an agency profiting from aspiring writers?

I just want to echo this question. I've done one of the 6 week Curtis Brown courses. Personally I got something from it but most of the other participants afterwards privately voiced they felt exploited and didn't feel they'd got value for money.

I don't doubt the longer courses offer something but there are a lot of desperate writers out there who are ripe for making money from.

I just wonder how much thought you've given to this issue. As an example, for your summer course this year you offered a scholarship spot on your 3 month, highly competitive beginner writing course to someone who had clearly already completed her novel, done a Masters in Creative Writing as well as having won an award for her writing. Did she need that 3 month 'how to write your novel' course? She signed a publishing deal mid-way through it so it looks like in fact it was just a way of you bumping the number of successes your school has had so you could lure more people in. She was going to succeed whatever happened (and good luck to her - the issue I'm raising isn't personal to her, it's with CBC and how much good you could actually have done with that scholarship)

I think everyone in the industry needs to be looking at this by the way. I also feel very negatively about some of the day long events where you pay £150 for a few basic workshops and a 10 minute slot with an agent which boils down to being useless. New writers are very exploited at present by this industry.

Hi gendercritter, I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling so negative about the industry, and about CBC. When it comes to the 6-week courses, if you feel unhappy, then do email us on [email protected] - I'd be glad to see what we can do for you. We are working all the time to try to improve our courses and give better value for money, so I'm naturally concerned to get this feedback. I of course give thought to how we work with authors - what we give and what we can and can't promise. To be slightly defensive, for a moment, I do get a lot of very positive feedback and hear from many people who've taken our courses (long and short, published and unpublished) that they've had a good experience. If I thought that we were being unscrupulous, making false promises or giving bad value to people, I would stop. You'll have to take my word for that (or indeed not). I founded CBC out of the best intentions, and I am genuinely very passionate about what we do - though of course we must learn how to do it better and better. (We don't offer the kind of £150 day-long events you're talking about - that's not us). When it comes to our scholarships, we offer several a year, and we offer those places, in each case, to an applicant who we feel is talented and writing something that we think has serious potential. The applicant does also need to comply with the eligibility criteria of the scholarship (usually based on financial hardship). The recent scholarship winner you are talking about is Kiare Ladner: She is staggeringly talented and we are thrilled that she now has a deal with Picador. She was still working on her novel when she applied for the scholarship, and she had neither an agent nor a publisher. It's highly unusual for any of our students to get a publishing deal while the course is still running, but it is a testament to her talent - which has again been recognised in her shortlisting for the BBC National Short story award (which was an anonymised judging process). I hope this has in some way answered your concerns and I'm sorry that this is how you are feeling.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:38

@thelioncub

Hi Anna, Thanks for all the helpful posts and tips. I'm a British aspiring author, currently pitching to literary agents (whilst also writing and about to study on a CB course) Our family is worried about the effects of Brexit and are considering a move to Germany. Do you think this would affect my chance of getting a literary agent? I know I can study online and pitch from anywhere in the world, but I'd still be writing in English and thus couldn't start pitching to German agents. If moving would even remotely lower my chances, then we would struggle on here and hope for the best!

Hi thelionclub - the move to Germany shouldn't present you with problems when it comes to getting an agent. It's obviously nice to be able to pop into the agent's office for a coffee, but it's far from essential. We have such great easy ways to communicate from a distance these days, and hopefully you would be able to travel to the UK when it was really important. And actually the book trade's biggest international event is the Frankfurt Book Fair, which happens every October - in Germany, natch.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:41

@Witchend

How easy do you find editing your book?

I'm finding editing far harder than writing Smile and keep putting it off to write different things.

Editing IS hard - but it's so important. Good novels are made in the edit. Maybe get a trusted reader to give you some feedback to help you to focus on what needs changing? We do have a six-week online course on how to edit and pitch your novel also, so check it out if you're interested (the next course actually starts on Wednesday)

RachelMumsnet · 24/09/2018 21:47

Thanks hugely to Anna Davis for joining us tonight and offering such helpful advice. Big thanks to all those who joined the webchat and a reminder that there's still chance to enter our competition with Curtis Brown Creative to win a free place on a writing or illustration course.

sunnyhen · 24/09/2018 21:48

Hi Anna, just wondering which of your online courses would you recommend? I’ve written 45k of a draft and have a tight plan for the story. I don’t know whether to do how to write or editing ? If someone (me) can only choose one...what would it be ? Thanks ( understand if you’ve run out of time to answer!)

Witchend · 24/09/2018 21:49

Thank you for your answer. I've used an online group for critiques. It's knowing what to take and what to leave from them that I'm struggling with, which I suppose is experience rather than anything else! I'll have a look at the course.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:49

@Somerville

Anna thanks for the web chat.

My question is about your “cheeky eleventh tip”. How do you personally square the ethics of an agency profiting from aspiring writers? It is clearly win-win for Curtis Brown; double your revenue stream so that as well as being paid by your clients when you sell their writing, you’re also being paid by aspiring clients to teach them potentially to improve their writing. But aspiring writers are being diverted towards it (by your own agents when submitting to them, like I was, or by marketing like your post above) when other agents, if they see merit, will sign them and then (for free) help them improve their writing. This is what happened to me, which is just as well since as a young widow at the time I never could have afforded the course which one of your agents recommended to me off the back of a full MS request and alongside multiple compliments about my writing.

Hi Somerville, First I'd like to say congratulations on signing with an agent - I hope it goes really well for you. However, what I'd also say is this: Curtis Brown's agents DO work editorially with writers to get their work ready to be sent out to publishers - and they do it freely and without charge just as your agent has done. But the Curtis Brown agents - like all other agents - will only do that when they're absolutely passionate about the novel and with strong belief that they know how to make it work (and naturally some of the agents have more time to work with new authors than others - it depends where an agent is in their career path - e.g. new agents will have lots of time for working with new authors). No writer has to take a creative course in order to get an agent and get published. It's absolutely not necessary. We are here, however, for those writers who DO want to do a course, and who DO feel that they would benefit from what our courses have to offer. I'd also just say that CB absolutely doesn't need the revenue stream from the creative writing school - it's one of the most success agencies in the business - no, they supported my founding and developing the school because they want to find new ways of reaching out to find and work with talented new authors - and because they liked my idea and were prepared to support it. I love working for an agency which supports new ideas and tries to look outward, beyond the traditional agenting model.

AnnaDavis · 24/09/2018 21:50

@sunnyhen

Hi Anna, just wondering which of your online courses would you recommend? I’ve written 45k of a draft and have a tight plan for the story. I don’t know whether to do how to write or editing ? If someone (me) can only choose one...what would it be ? Thanks ( understand if you’ve run out of time to answer!)

Hi sunny hen - I'd do Write to the End of Your Novel. Edit & Pitch really is for the next stage when you have a complete draft in hand. Hope that helps