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Self-Publishing Support Thread

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APodPerson · 06/06/2014 17:24

Hi all,

Following a number of other threads suggesting this, I thought I’d set up a support thread for us self-publishers (although traditionally published are welcome too of course).

The purpose would be for us all to support each other, share our books, tips and tricks that have worked, and anything else self-publishing related.

MNHQ have given us the go ahead, although of course we need to make sure we behave ourselves, and if it ends up being nothing but spam it'll get pulled.

So, Rule 1: No spam!

I suggest one post introducing yourself with a link to your books, and goodreads profile, twitter, fb page, website etc, but then no further links or any kind of self promo unless it is directly related to a question from another poster.

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GranitaMargarita · 17/07/2014 19:40

So, some very practical questions to those with experience...

What level (if any) of editorial input have you opted for? I can see that there are all sorts of levels, from simple proof reading to line-by-line and structural editing.

What have people chosen, how useful did you find it, and did you feel it was worth the price?

fackinell · 17/07/2014 20:24

It may turn out to be more cathartic than you think, Charlie. Not good that it's got you down though. Well done on making a start. I got sod all done, just wasn't in the mindset.

fackinell · 17/07/2014 20:27

Granita, first book I got a professional editor, he took £650 quid but I wasn't happy with the result (changed words that I wanted to keep, sent back docs in varying formats and fonts and read only.) Second book, paid a mate who edits as part of her job £100 but there were still a few mistakes. I'm at a loss to know what to do now really.
Wink

GranitaMargarita · 17/07/2014 20:29

Fackinell - That's interesting, thank you. Would you mind PMming me the name of the person that you wouldn't recommend? Was he supposed to be doing proof reading or a line by line editing?

fackinell · 17/07/2014 20:59

He was doing a full line edit and lives in West London. Would you be using someone in that area? I'd feel awful naming him as he was otherwise a lovely man. Just not very savvy with computers.

GranitaMargarita · 22/07/2014 20:58

Sure - if I go for this, I'll check with you just before I sign anything, if the editor sounds like it might possibly be the same!

fackinell · 23/07/2014 14:39

Ok cool, his first name begins with N. it really isn't my nature to name people but I totally get that you would t want to pay that money and have problems. Smile

InMySpareTime · 23/07/2014 16:30

My books arrived from the printers todayGrin.
I picked them up from the publisher, promptly sold one on the way home, then another on the school run.
This bodes well for future sales, this one has better mass-market appeal than the last one (it's about cycling), and the newspaper interview I did was the second most-viewed article in the paper.
Bubbly is currently on ice...

fackinell · 23/07/2014 18:36

Congratulations Inmysparetime Thanks
How good does it feel to actually hold something you have created? Try as I might, I just can't get excited about digital copies but an actual book...Grin

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque · 25/07/2014 12:56

InMySpareTime - wow! Congrats. Hope you enjoyed your bubbly!

Its been a quiet morning at work and I have spewed some words onto my computer. Something completely different to Baba. I needed to take a break. Its called The Cutting, and its very short. The start of a story, a story which I have no idea where to go with. Not sure I will continue, but if anyone is suitably bored and fancies a read and to give me any feedback, the go for it. I'd be well pleased.

I reckon it would be aimed at teens.

Very unoriginal title, but I am off to lunch now and wanted to just get it up there.

here it is

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 13:02

One of the dullest questions ever - how important is chapter length?

Some of my chapters are rather variable in length - between about 1500 and 3000 words.

fackinell · 03/08/2014 15:49

Probably not hugely important. I usually have around 25 over 80k words and tend to end a chapter if there's a twist or a subject close.

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 16:50

Yeah, I thought I was probably getting unnecessarily wound up about it! Thanks Fackinell.

I'm starting to suspect some of these worries are delaying tactics as I get close to pressing the big red 'publish' button.

Next. would anyone be interested in helping me shape my back cover blurb into something that will grab the reader?

fackinell · 03/08/2014 17:17

Yes, I would. Or post the gist in here and we can all try. Smile

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 17:51

Cool! Lets try it as a joint effort. Thank you :)

Young adult, dystopian science fiction. (A collegue of mine said 'Like Miss Marple meets The Hunger Games')

It's set in an alternative 1920s, in a city devastated by a deadly virus. To prevent the virus spreading and to deal with the consequences, the government has set up an authoritarian system of incinerating bodies, quarantining families, and rationing food.

Seventeen-year-old Lucille Harker has come to the city after the deaths of her mother and brothers, the failure of the family farm, and her father's suicide. She takes a job with the Medical Patrol, picking up the corpses, and she's proud to see this as a way of fighting against the virus. She's tactless, honest and loyal, but refuses to forgive her father for his suicide. She's also drowing in debts from the failed farm, that she feels honour-bound to pay back.

One night, Lucille and her colleague and mentor, Hank, go to pick up the body of the Mayor's late mistress, who has died of the virus. When they arrive, Lucille discovers that the dead woman is missing, but another body is lying in her place - a woman who's been shot through the head. Lucille is desperate to do everything openly and by the book, as much as she can in this situation, but everyone else (except Hank) is intent on a cover up.

The Mayor's office of Hygiene Control begin nosing round Lucille, trying to bribe her to forget the scandal..

Hank starts making cryptic comments and then disappears. Lucille is determined to find out where he's got to, and searches all over town, visiting including a freak show, a shyster preacher, a doctor on the search for the vaccine for the virus, and a jazz club. And then she gets arrested herself, and discovers that she didn't know half of what the Mayor was up to...

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 18:01

This is one of my attempts:

"The city has been devastated by a deadly virus. The only way to prevent it spreading is an authoritarian regime of incinerating bodies and quarantining families.

Seventeen-year-old Lucille Harker, alone in the city after her family’s deaths, sees her job collecting corpses as a chance to repay her father’s betrayal.

But when Lucille is called to a wealthy politician’s apartment to take away a murder victim, she must learn to make her own choices about what loyalty and betrayal mean."

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 18:06

Or how about

"After the virus came, everything changed. Seventeen ­year-old Lucille is left with just a pile of debt to remind her of her dead family and their failed farm. Working for the Mayor in his struggles to control the spread of the disease seems like a chance to repay her father’s betrayal. But little by little, she realises that the service she put her faith in is corrupt to the core. And now she must learn to make her own choices about what loyalty and betrayal mean."

fackinell · 03/08/2014 18:14

I really like the sound of your story. I immediately want to know more. I'm no expert but I think I'd have the bit about Lucille first and the info about the city, including the name and the period (1927 or whenever it's set) included. Just a personal preference to have character before scenario. I'd like to see a bit more about the cover up in the last paragraph as in the description before that intrigued me.

I do think its a really good blurb. Smile

fackinell · 03/08/2014 18:15

Second one, with a bit more about the cover up and her life being potentially at risk if she tells all...

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 18:20

Thanks! I will redraft... (Lovely being online at the same time as someone giving feedback)

fackinell · 03/08/2014 18:26

Haha I know, you can wait daaaays sometimes. Grin

fackinell · 03/08/2014 18:31

Are you totally finished other than blurb? How exciting!! Grin I remember the fear well. You're SP aren't you?

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 18:43

I'm nearly nearly done - and yes, will be self-pubbing / "indy authoring". Have sent you a PM...

Meanwhile, how about
"After the virus came, everything changed. Seventeen ­year-old Lucille is left with just a pile of debt to remind her of her dead family and their failed farm. Working for the Mayor to control the spread of the disease seems like a chance to repay her father’s betrayal. Now, the city is under an authoritarian regime, incinerating bodies, rationing food and quarantining families.

When Lucille is called to the Mayor’s own apartment to take away a murder victim, everyone but her seems intent on a cover-up. Then the only person she trusts disappears...

Little by little, Lucille realises that the service she put her faith in is corrupt to the core. And now she must learn to make her own choices about what loyalty and betrayal mean."

I'm thinking about a shout line for the front (or back) cover as well. Something gripping and yet vague...

fackinell · 03/08/2014 18:58

Love that!! Perfect. Great idea doing a grab line. How about something along the lines of 'who do you trust when everyone you know is gone?'
That thought scare the bejesus out of me. Grin

GranitaMargarita · 03/08/2014 19:09

Oh, I like that! That's really good.

(What happens when everyone she knows is gone is that Lucille has to get over herself a bit and trust some people who don't come up to her insanely high standards. One of them even likes... shopping.)

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