Moving to Dublin from Bristol

[Bristol07]

Hi All

I’m looking for a bit of advice as we’ve decided to take the plunge and move from Bristol to Dublin in the New Year. I am originally from NI , my DH is English and we have three children 10,7&4.

I suppose It would be good to hear from people who have made similar moves recently and how that has gone. We have jobs , schools and house sorted outside Dublin so wanted to know what it’s been like moving back with English DH and three kids - I’m hoping the anti English posts I’ve read here are in the minority. I’d hate for us to have to deal with that especially with the kids.

Many thanks

I’m English and live and work in Dublin in an office. Not unusual to hear “yup the RA” or see “IRA 2021” graffiti.
That said, I’ve never encountered anything directed at me personally.

Lived and worked in Dublin for the past 18 years and I’ve never seen any IRA graffiti. Is this inner city/rough areas @Burnamer

My mother is English, my uncle and his wife and their children moved over soon after her. None of them have ever encountered any kind of anti English sentiment. I wonder if it’s a specific area?

@Bookwormfromhell @Theblacksheepandme where about do you live?

It is all over Ireland as I have spent quite a bit of time in different provinces and not just one specific area. Cities can be just as bad as small towns or even villages.

A close friend moved to dublin with his wife. They live in the inchicore area. They are both wealthy and DC attend private school which is supported by public funds so is cheap. ( i was shocked as fees in england are high) . My friend does have irish parents but to be honest when i went to their wedding in dublin i was shocked at the anti english sentiment from the brides wedding party. My DH is english and was the best man...didnt go down well and it was rather awkward. I am scottish and recognise this ...obviously this was a specific group of individuals and they in the main didnt live in dublin.

I visited dublin and it reminded me of the small town i left, i was harrassed by a few drunken men despite being pregnant and i didnt like it. Hence i remain in london and havent returned to where i come from- its not for me

@Theblacksheepandme

It is all over Ireland as I have spent quite a bit of time in different provinces and not just one specific area. Cities can be just as bad as small towns or even villages.

Interesting. Like I said my family and extended family have never had any issues. All based on Monaghan/Cavan/Louth

Anotherviewtoyou
Interesting. Like I said my family and extended family have never had any issues. All based on Monaghan/Cavan/Louth

I am surprised if they haven't had any issues from that part of the country.

Can't help with the kids but I have English family members who moved to Dublin for 15 years for work and never found it anything other than massively welcoming and easy to settle

hairymorag
I visited dublin and it reminded me of the small town i left, i was harrassed by a few drunken men despite being pregnant and i didnt like it. Hence i remain in london and havent returned to where i come from- its not for me

Dublin is a dump. I do sound like an Ireland hater and don't get me wrong. There are beautiful parts to Ireland and some genuine nice people but a lot of anti English sentiment. It's become normalised which is why a lot of Irish don't even notice. Also do Irish feel different towards English with Irish parents or just plain old English as it comes up a lot?

@hairymorag

A close friend moved to dublin with his wife. They live in the inchicore area. They are both wealthy and DC attend private school which is supported by public funds so is cheap. ( i was shocked as fees in england are high) . My friend does have irish parents but to be honest when i went to their wedding in dublin i was shocked at the anti english sentiment from the brides wedding party. My DH is english and was the best man...didnt go down well and it was rather awkward. I am scottish and recognise this ...obviously this was a specific group of individuals and they in the main didnt live in dublin.

I visited dublin and it reminded me of the small town i left, i was harrassed by a few drunken men despite being pregnant and i didnt like it. Hence i remain in london and havent returned to where i come from- its not for me

This story doesn’t surprise me one bit. The posters saying they know British/English people and they’ve settled well and have never experienced anything like this…well I can tell you that most of us Brits are here just trying to get on and they won’t be broadcasting what they really think. If I was to go around telling people about the bigotry I’ve experienced, the whole town would be talking about me (and probably saying ‘well what does she expect… 800 years and all that’ ) Instead I keep my head down and tell myself it’s not everyone. Although there’s an awful awful lot of it

Ohfortheloveofgodwhatnow
This story doesn’t surprise me one bit. The posters saying they know British/English people and they’ve settled well and have never experienced anything like this…well I can tell you that most of us Brits are here just trying to get on and they won’t be broadcasting what they really think. If I was to go around telling people about the bigotry I’ve experienced, the whole town would be talking about me (and probably saying ‘well what does she expect… 800 years and all that’) Instead I keep my head down and tell myself it’s not everyone.
Although there’s an awful awful lot of it

I've got "if you're not happy you can always go home".

@Anotherviewtoyou on the main commute route from the north of the city into the centre. It’s not huge pieces, more like tags but they’re there and once I noticed one I saw a couple more.
That said , I’m really happy we moved here and love my life here.

@Theblacksheepandme @Ohfortheloveofgodwhatnow I’m not saying go home obviously. But are you stuck here? Would if be possible to move back to the U.K.? It must be so draining to have to deal with constant anti English sentiment especially when it’s not like you can change where you are from!!

I’m very disappointed to hear that the anti English sentiment is so prevalent. I just presumed it wasn’t an issue as my English relatives have never had any problems.

Anotherviewtoyou
@Theblacksheepandme@OhfortheloveofgodwhatnowI’m not saying go home obviously. But are you stuck here? Would if be possible to move back to the U.K.? It must be so draining to have to deal with constant anti English sentiment especially when it’s not like you can change where you are from!!

I’m very disappointed to hear that the anti English sentiment is so prevalent. I just presumed it wasn’t an issue as my English relatives have never had any problems.

Is that what you would also say to other foreign nationals that have experienced racism? Maybe go home if the racism is so draining and uncomfortable.

Anotherviewtoyou
Also have you had an in depth discussion with your relatives? Have they told you that they never experienced anti English sentiment? Are you just assuming because they never said anything?

Would you tell black people in America that perhaps they should move Country if they find the racism so draining?

What a ridiculous comment to make.

@Theblacksheepandme you are the one bringing up racism. I’m asking if you have choices. I didn’t enjoy growing up in a small town due to small town mentality so I moved to Dublin and settled here. For me the constant drudgery and gossip of a small town would be hell so I left. You only get one life and you sound so miserable and angry.

And yes they’re close family, lots of cousins who I’m very close to.

Anotherviewtoyou
I am bringing up the problems in Ireland of anti English sentiment and yes also racism. It annoys me when a person comes up with a solution of leaving where it happens. This to me doesn't help the problem. Why should anyone that is at the receiving end of this be the person that leaves? That is not solving the problem is it? At the moment there is a problem where women don't feel comfortable going out at night by themselves. Would you tell them that perhaps they should not go out then - problem solved.

Don't worry about me as I really am not miserable. Possibly angry when given stupid solutions to anti English sentiment. Maybe all us English should go back to England when being abused by a gobshite when we are minding our own business.

You also didn't answer what I asked. Have you had an in depth discussion with your relatives? Have they told you that they never experienced anti English sentiment? Are you just assuming because they never said anything?

Do you think black people should leave America if they're not happy and don't feel safe in America? Life is too short after all.

Cani just ask, is ‘Up the Ra’ considered an anti English sentiment? I think a lot of it depends on what you consider to be anti English sentiment. Can people please be a bit more explicit about what exactly they’ve experienced? (Yes I’m Irish).

@SimonedeBeauvoirscat I’m the posting that referenced the phrase. I’m presuming that you know what “yup/up the RA” means? Given it’s supports a terrorist group that bombed the British, I’d say it’s anti-British (and I said in my post that referenced it that I’m English). I’d be interested to hear another pov though.

@Theblacksheepandme usually when people are miserable somewhere - in their job / their house / their relationship / their location - they make a change to improve their situation. If they can that is - which is why I asked if you had choices or if you were stuck. I don’t understand why you’re flying off the handle at someone suggesting you move to somewhere where you might be happy. It’s a pretty common thing to do.

I’m not sure what you’re talking about re black people in the US - surely you are not saying black people in the US are ‘foreigners’

Yes I’ve talked about it properly to my family members. Hence my surprise at it being such an issue for others!

@Theblacksheepandme

Bookwormfromhell Ok. I’m English, living in Ireland and just to say, anti English sentiment is very much alive and kicking. Worse than it ever was in my opinion.

I agree with you.

I don't agree at all. I'm English, have lived in Ireland for over 20 years, and I have never experienced any anti English sentiment. Not even once. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I've honestly never experienced it. Maybe it depends where you live. My DH, who is Irish, experienced far more anti Irish sentiment when we lived in the UK.

Anotherviewtoyou
I’m not sure what you’re talking about re black people in the US - surely you are not saying black people in the US are ‘foreigners’

Of course I'm not saying that black Americans are foreigners. Don't be so ridiculous. Your solution to racism and let's call it racism as that is what anti English sentiment is was to move. Would you say the same thing to black Americans that experience what they experience in their own country? What about black Irish that experience racism. Would you tell them to go to a Country where they could be happier? I am saying black but obviously there are many Irish with different ethnicities that experience racism. Do we tell them all to leave where they could be happier?

DramaAlpaca
I don't agree at all. I'm English, have lived in Ireland for over 20 years, and I have never experienced any anti English sentiment. Not even once. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I've honestly never experienced it. Maybe it depends where you live. My DH, who is Irish, experienced far more anti Irish sentiment when we lived in the UK.

Can I ask if your IRISH husband is very involved in the community where you live e.g Church, GAA etc. I think that makes a difference. Perhaps he might have a local business as that also makes a difference. People seem more accepting when married to a LOCAL.

@Theblacksheepandme again I’m not sure why you keep ranting at me about racism. My suggestion was as you are unhappy and miserable then do you have an option to move somewhere you might be happier. As I said it’s quite normal to make a change if you’re unhappy with a fundamental aspect of your life. I have lived abroad and not liked it and moved home. It’s not a crazy suggestion. I am not going to engage any further as honestly you just seem so angry.

Anotherviewtoyou
@Theblacksheepandmeagain I’m not sure why you keep ranting at me about racism. My suggestion was as you are unhappy and miserable then do you have an option to move somewhere you might be happier. As I said it’s quite normal to make a change if you’re unhappy with a fundamental aspect of your life. I have lived abroad and not liked it and moved home. It’s not a crazy suggestion. I am not going to engage any further as honestly you just seem so angry.*

Neither am I as what I am saying seems to be going over your head.