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Losing 1k pm income

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Threeinyellow · 11/12/2024 17:46

As the title goes, it looks likely that I may become unemployed and lose 1k in income. Owe approx 11k debt. Possibly housing too.

Total income £3290 (incl UC with housing benefit element and £70pw CM for 2DC)

Total debt
Loan 9650 excl interest
Credit card 780
Store cards 185

Outgoings
Rent 900
Council tax 111
Water 39
British Gas 105
Mobile 64
Broadband 20
Dental 22.50
Dc sports fees 10
Pet insurance 6
Vet 12.50
Tv licence 13.50
Union 10
Contents ins 8
Help to save 50
FOOD 550
Child ISA 10
Driving lessons 280
Tesco subs 7

Any advice or signposting very much appreciated.

OP posts:
Starlight1979 · 12/12/2024 09:06

Threeinyellow · 11/12/2024 20:03

I am working. I'm likely to become unemployed and income to be reduced to £2290

£2290 a month being unemployed?!?! I earn £2700 (net) working 40+ hours in a job I have spent 20 years doing qualifications and working my way up to!

Sorry OP, not your fault. But honestly this system needs a massive overhaul.

Enoughofthisnow · 12/12/2024 09:11

bigkidatheart · 12/12/2024 08:35

What are your income amounts?

Struggling to see how you qualify for UC. But saying that you do, so if you can get the housing benefit element, are you able to get council tax benefit? If you are become unemployed, I don't think you will need to pay council tax so there is one reduction.

You pay pet insurance and vet?

Driving lessons, is this for you or an older child?

If its the child you can teach them yourself. If its yourself do you have a family member willing to add you to insurance and take you out.

Food, if you meal plan and get creative and cooking from scratch, batch cook for the week etc you could probably shave £150 off that a month.

Help to save - how much do you have in this scheme already?

I work full time and have children, I come out with 2400 and that's a good wage - not entitled to any help, you really do have a lot of money coming in

How are you struggling to see how OP qualifies? She'd likely qualify for a small element in anycase as a single parent, add in a mental illness (which she'd have to jump through hoops to show how it impacts her life) and having DC who are likely SEN as can't be catered for in mainstream school.

How can she both home school and work at the same time?

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 12/12/2024 09:11

femfemlicious · 12/12/2024 08:56

EXACTLY!. she should definitely be able to get carers allowance

Carers allowance isn’t £1k per month!!

CherryBlossom321 · 12/12/2024 09:15

recyclingisaPITA · 12/12/2024 02:42

Also ask utility bills if you qualify for any special rates due to income or disability.

For all those jealous of OPs prospective income. It probably includes PIP/DLA/carer's allowance too. Which you don't get for shits'n'giggles, so no, you really don't want her money and the life that goes with it. She's not giving up her work to home school DC for fun, it'll be because there's no school place able to deal with their needs. What's your alternative suggestions? Shoot the kid dead so it's no longer a barrier to OP working? Not practical or legal. Turn care of the kid over to the state, to force them to provide some type of 24/7 service, so OP is free to work? That's going to cost the state a lot more than UC for OP.

So STFU with your "I work and don't get that much" comments.

You want more in your pocket? Cease paying into a pension, cease paying your student loans and get taken to court to pay £1/wk and have a CCJ ruin your credit rating, rent forever so you can claim UC if you wages is low enough, then you'll have no mortgage or repairs to pay (and no security either, plus a whole load of stress), sell your car and walk/bus everywhere, never go out. Level yourself up(down) to the lifestyle of a poor person, then tell me you're not better off and you prefer it - nobody stopping you.

Absolutely - people have no idea of the impact of the level of chronic stress and the toll it can take physically and mentally when they haven’t lived it. Especially if they lack a basic level of empathy. I applaud this response.

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:24

Starlight1979 · 12/12/2024 09:06

£2290 a month being unemployed?!?! I earn £2700 (net) working 40+ hours in a job I have spent 20 years doing qualifications and working my way up to!

Sorry OP, not your fault. But honestly this system needs a massive overhaul.

That includes CM

OP posts:
Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:26

averythinline · 12/12/2024 08:14

Is the £70 maintenance through CMS? Has that been reviewed recently..thats a pitiful contribution to the costs of teens...

@averythinline Not through the CMS. Ex has said that he will make sure to disappear if I try to attach his earnings.

OP posts:
Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:28

CherryBlossom321 · 12/12/2024 09:15

Absolutely - people have no idea of the impact of the level of chronic stress and the toll it can take physically and mentally when they haven’t lived it. Especially if they lack a basic level of empathy. I applaud this response.

I have never been on out of work benefits. I work hard for a living.

OP posts:
Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:32

Livinghappy · 12/12/2024 08:57

Sorry for you current difficulties. How old is the dc that might not be able to be at school? If you have to stay home to support them would you be available to work evenings/weekends?

The only way out of debt is to earn more and you were on the right track with driving lessons/savings etc (which is such a good role model for your children)

Is there any chance you can stay in work? Perhaps take a few months off?

@Livinghappy Weekend/evening work is not something that's yet crossed my mind. I am feeling unbelievably stressed so that's probably why as ordinarily that's something I might have considered.

OP posts:
allthatfalafel · 12/12/2024 09:34

Threeinyellow · 11/12/2024 18:28

Thank you all.

I won't be able to work for some time. Maybe 1 - 3 years. I'm really not sure at this point in time.
I have two teens with hollow legs and a big cat.
UC will go up marginally and I will get some council tax support.
I will sadly have to pause driving lessons. Not sure about dental plan as one is for one DC and one is for me. I have a molar with a fissure, though it's not bothering me at the moment. The dentist said just to monitor it.

Re driving lessons, have you got a friend or relative who would be happy to sit with you in their car so you can get some practice in now and again?

Can you go SIM only for your phone, even £54/m is expensive. You should be able to get it down to around £10-15.

I don't think your food bill is bad but you may be able to knock some off here and there.

Ignore the comments from people who see only the £ and not the reasons you're getting it.

MissNoMoneyPenny · 12/12/2024 09:37

Cheaper mobile for sure :-)

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 12/12/2024 09:37

Threeinyellow · 11/12/2024 20:03

I am working. I'm likely to become unemployed and income to be reduced to £2290

This is my net pay per month as a teacher working 4 days per week on UPS 3!

CoastalCalm · 12/12/2024 09:38

What was the loan for ?

bigkidatheart · 12/12/2024 09:39

Enoughofthisnow · 12/12/2024 09:11

How are you struggling to see how OP qualifies? She'd likely qualify for a small element in anycase as a single parent, add in a mental illness (which she'd have to jump through hoops to show how it impacts her life) and having DC who are likely SEN as can't be catered for in mainstream school.

How can she both home school and work at the same time?

I am struggling to see what she has coming in, that's why i asked for a breakdown - it was not a personal attack.

Enoughofthisnow · 12/12/2024 09:40

It will be okay OP. Try not to think in terms of years at this stage. It's a massive change but try to take each week as it comes. How are your employers being in all this? Can you reduce hours while you finalise what's happening with dc schooling/provision?

allthatfalafel · 12/12/2024 09:41

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 12/12/2024 09:37

This is my net pay per month as a teacher working 4 days per week on UPS 3!

Who cares for your SEN children while you're at work?

Mamabearsmile · 12/12/2024 09:41

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:24

That includes CM

I have a degree, ma, a teaching degree and I loved my work. Then I got sick. I was in the NHS before I did my degree. I worked and contributed all of my life. But I wasn't eligible for much. I live on 900 pounds a month, my small NHS pension. I'm not old enough to get my state pension yet. I have to get everything out of that figure. So it's deals deals deals all round. You can't be proud. Go get cheaper food. Pare everything to the bone and hope things stabilise. In the early days before pension it was if I was invisible. Don't be invisible, just find the resources and ask. Cut your coat by what you have. Don't try to pretend to everyone it's not happening (I did). I was depressed, keeping up appearances and no one who needed and would want to help did because they didn't know. You have to change things, mostly you're attitude to money, take care of what you have and watch your six. None of this is your fault but act now and help things stabilise quicker. Good luck op.

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:42

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 12/12/2024 09:37

This is my net pay per month as a teacher working 4 days per week on UPS 3!

This figure includes CM

OP posts:
Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:46

FWIW my UC is being reduced anyway as the loan has been counted as capital for the months I had money in the bank. So the total income figures on the OP are due to change. UC are still to let me know how much the reduction is.

OP posts:
Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:47

Mamabearsmile · 12/12/2024 09:41

I have a degree, ma, a teaching degree and I loved my work. Then I got sick. I was in the NHS before I did my degree. I worked and contributed all of my life. But I wasn't eligible for much. I live on 900 pounds a month, my small NHS pension. I'm not old enough to get my state pension yet. I have to get everything out of that figure. So it's deals deals deals all round. You can't be proud. Go get cheaper food. Pare everything to the bone and hope things stabilise. In the early days before pension it was if I was invisible. Don't be invisible, just find the resources and ask. Cut your coat by what you have. Don't try to pretend to everyone it's not happening (I did). I was depressed, keeping up appearances and no one who needed and would want to help did because they didn't know. You have to change things, mostly you're attitude to money, take care of what you have and watch your six. None of this is your fault but act now and help things stabilise quicker. Good luck op.

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OP posts:
fashionqueen0123 · 12/12/2024 09:49

Threeinyellow · 11/12/2024 21:00

It looks like I might have no option but to home school dc. I work 33 hours pw.

Reduced income would be 2290, which includes £70pw child maintenance.

In that case what else can be done to prevent home schooling? Home schooling, if necessary can it be done around work hours?
Otherwise unless you can show you need to be a carer for your child won’t UC say you’ve deprived yourself
of income? .
Also if your driving lessons are likely to help you get a better job or facilitate help with the kids I’d not stop them and stop something else instead. Unless you’ve only just started them - how close to a test are you?

Harshtruth1111 · 12/12/2024 09:53

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 07:25

Mobile contract is for 4, which includes £10pm for a relative who does not live with me. I will be looking at paying off handsets and changing over to sim only.

That's reasonable

femfemlicious · 12/12/2024 09:57

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 12/12/2024 09:11

Carers allowance isn’t £1k per month!!

I didn't say it was?

Harshtruth1111 · 12/12/2024 09:57

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:28

I have never been on out of work benefits. I work hard for a living.

I think you should mention you are a single mum in your original post.

CherryBlossom321 · 12/12/2024 10:03

Threeinyellow · 12/12/2024 09:28

I have never been on out of work benefits. I work hard for a living.

Yes, I understood that from your OP - I’m saying I agree with the quoted poster that there’s so much ignorance around what it is like to live as a carer, a parent of SEND children, and the stress it creates including the toll on your own mental and physical health. There are many posters who are upset because they think you shouldn’t receive the benefits you currently get. I’m saying it’s not an easy life in your position.

Blushingm · 12/12/2024 10:12

If you don't have a car (you're not paying any car costs) why are you learning to drive?

Can't you work around kids eg weekends or evenings since they're teen? Or WFH evenings and weekends?

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