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Worried about accidental UC fraud

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FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 16:59

I've been on UC for 3 years. I'm a single parent and I work. I've just received some inheritance so immediately used my online UC journal to inform them of my change of circumstances. I have now been told to come in to the job centre and bring 3 months of bank statements.

I've had a hell of a year and have not always been "on it." I recalled that my mother had sent money at the end of May because she has also inherited and has surplus. It was a large enough sum to push me over the £16k threshold. I absolutely should have told UC then but I didn't. This was partly because I knew a big chunk would be for paying off my credit card (which I still have not done as it in interest-free period) and another chunk was for booking a holiday (we haven't been able to afford one for years). The rest was to give to my children who do not yet have their own bank accounts.

On receipt of the money in May I immediately applied to open accounts for the children but have yet to sit down and log on the internet banking and transfer their money. The upshot is that I was over the £16k limit for about 6 weeks or 1 UC payment.

I'm now really really worried that I will end up with a criminal record for this and lose my job. What will they do? I've told them what happened now re not declaring the money received in May as most was for the children. I've kist been told I must wait for this meeting in 2 weeks to verify my capital.

To avoid drip-feeding, I've now scouted my bank statements for the last few years and they was a 10 day period last year when I went over the £16k as my father transferred some money to me temporarily. I'm really worried.

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FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 19:54

@Cornflakelover thank you. I really appreciate this.

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starrynight009 · 11/07/2024 20:19

I had an interview with UC last week as I'm on the £6k border, I go over and under it all the time month by month. The UC lady was really lovely and wasn't scary at all. She wants details of all my accounts for the last 4 years which is super annoying and says I may owe them a bit but it honestly wasn't done in a....you're commiting fraud type way it was done in a, no problem, we just need to check and get it right type way.

I wish I has gone on a cruise and spent a load of money to get myself way under the threshold instead of trying to be good and save now. The system is ridiculous.

Cornflakelover · 11/07/2024 20:22

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 19:54

@Cornflakelover thank you. I really appreciate this.

Your welcome
basically for every 1k over 6k it’s approx £18 they deduct

they deduct 4.50 for every £250 your over 6k

so for every 1k over 6k they deduct £18 from your UC award

so 16 k is 10k over the 6k that they ignore

so 18 x 10 - 180 a month repayment / or deducted

( hope that makes sense ) 😂

so for every month your at 16k it’s 180 deducted from your universal credit amount approximately

it’s fairly easy to work out
but if you ask the mods at dwp Reddit they are very helpful

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 20:25

@Cornflakelover I fully expect to pay back any overpayment. All I'm worried about is prosecution. Is it likely would you say? I'd lose my job.

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Cornflakelover · 11/07/2024 21:30

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 20:25

@Cornflakelover I fully expect to pay back any overpayment. All I'm worried about is prosecution. Is it likely would you say? I'd lose my job.

No
because you have told them
they only prosecute when it’s deliberate fraud over a long period of time

it’s an accident it’s not deliberate they are quite used to people not realising that it’s between 6 -16k
most people read /here 16k and think up to 16k they are fine
it’s really common

honestly going to court / prosecution cost thousands and for what 180 overpayment over a few months
At worse it would be a 50 fine for failing to update

honestly ask on the Reddit subs for dwp / benefit
the mods are fab and really helpful and have probably seen your questions a few hundred times

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 21:43

@Cornflakelover thanks. I did go over £16k though for 6 weeks.

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Badermigee · 11/07/2024 21:44

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 21:43

@Cornflakelover thanks. I did go over £16k though for 6 weeks.

Is your overpayment figure over £3000?

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 22:20

@Badermigee no I don't think so

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Badermigee · 11/07/2024 22:30

FeliceIntheTwenties · 11/07/2024 22:20

@Badermigee no I don't think so

Then you won't meet the threshold for prosecution so you can stop worrying about that x

Dahliaaaa · 12/07/2024 17:04

Noosnom · 11/07/2024 18:51

I worry about accidentally going over the 6k limit al the time. I might be given 2k soon to pay for DC's car insurance straight away (in and out of bank in 24hrs). I hope it doesn't mess things up.

They need to raise the savings limit in line with inflation. It should be 8k and 21k now.

Of course it shouldn't. If you have that much in the bank you shouldn't be entitled to state support

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