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wfh - a cause of huge rise in cost of gas and electricity price

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lightand · 30/08/2022 08:21

I cant remember which threads I posted on yesterday and the day before[I cant seem to work out the search facility on here well enough] saying that I thought that the huge rise in worldwide wholesale prices was in big part, caused by working from home.
So I have started this thread.

Will send two links.

www.cliffordtalbot.co.uk/energy-prices/

OP posts:
JunkIsland · 30/08/2022 10:57

Not convinced by the argument that people will be returning to the office in droves due to bills. I’m either going to be using electricity to charge my car to get to work or to plug my laptop in at home. Add in a heated blanket, maybe a fan heater from time to time, and a fifty-mile round trip commute will still demand more energy-wise.

Bupster · 30/08/2022 11:03

Working from home in a heatwave in August caused the gas prices to go up? Yes, mate, it's definitely Barry from Peterborough dodging the 50 mile commute, sticking the kettle on, and emailing his bitter, resentful admin to ask her to do some photocopying that did it, and not surging industrial demand post-lockdown added to a major war and Russia turning off the taps. Dear sweet God.

Owlsinmybedroom · 30/08/2022 15:56

lightand · 30/08/2022 09:33

Tell me something else that happened 2020 onwards to cause it?

The only slightest blip prior to that going back at least 10 years of a remarkably steady price in worldwide gas and elec prices[surprisingly seeming to have no basis in oil price wobbling all over the place], was 2008.

70% of the increased demand is from Asia and South America, the increase is mostly caused by increased economic activity e.g. increased manufacturing, and other factors such as China replacing coal fueled power generation with gas fuels power generation.

You cannot take things happening in the UK and extrapolate them across the world to explain the rise in gas consumption.

Chocolatelabradorsarethebest · 30/08/2022 16:26

SmallPrawnEnergy · 30/08/2022 09:54

Oh Op. You’re so wise and knowledgable. Us plebs should dawn at your superior intellect and vast greatness. We shall only dream to wallow in your splendour…

there, is that what you wanted.

Flouncy little fuck.

‘Flouncy little fuck’ is now my new favourite saying!

HappyWinter · 31/08/2022 13:42

CosmopolitanPlease · 30/08/2022 08:30

Those links don't say energy price increases are caused by people working from home though?

The Daily Mail hate anyone working from home anyway, even though Peter Hitchens works from his home in Florida.

To find threads you've posted on you can just click 'I'm on' rather than use the search.

Richard Littlejohn said similar to the Daily Mail..guess where he works from?

StormTreader · 31/08/2022 13:51

lightand · 30/08/2022 09:29

I havent looked into each and every country.
I have looked at the totals.

I couldnt tell exactly whether Jan 2020 or March 2020 or June 2020.
Others can look in more detail if they want to.

Oh I LOVE a good "here's my batshit assertion, and everyone else needs to 'do their own research'! thread!
Nothing better than a random internet person giving me vague homework :D Have I missed where they call us "sheeple" and tell us to "wake up" yet?

Incidentally, I got a new haircut in summer 2020, I can only apologise for this obviously causing the energy crisis.

lightand · 31/08/2022 14:39

This thread has been such an eye opener!

Even gmb are saying
people who work from home should be paid more to keep warm as companies are saving money while the worker are away.

OP posts:
JassyRadlett · 31/08/2022 14:46

Even gmb are saying people who work from home should be paid more to keep warm as companies are saving money while the worker are away.

That's an entirely different argument to asserting that WFH has caused the wholesale price increases.

No one is disagreeing with you that wholesale prices have increased hugely, or that retail energy prices have increased hugely as well.

They're disagreeing with you that WFH has increased domestic consumption anywhere near enough to have the impact on global or even the European markets that we saw even before the Russia/Ukraine war. And they provided evidence of consumption levels (not far from the norm) to support that argument.

RedWingBoots · 31/08/2022 15:42

lightand · 31/08/2022 14:39

This thread has been such an eye opener!

Even gmb are saying
people who work from home should be paid more to keep warm as companies are saving money while the worker are away.

WFH still costs less weekly than my last commute into an office in February 2022. Since then petrol prices and transport prices have gone.

The offices I commuted into from 2015 actually had hot desks, both formally and informally, so didn't expect people to work from them everyday.

Anyway I heard on the radio that if it costs you more than £30 a week to commute in then you are better of WFH.

UnnecessaryFennel · 31/08/2022 16:32

So... OP posts a DM article, and a graph.
Admits that they've not properly looked at what the graph does or doesn't say. Appears to have misread graph anyway (energy prices actually drop throughout most of 2020 on that graph).
Suggests other people do their own research.
Gets cross and flounces when challenged.

wAke Up sHeEpLe!!

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