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Washing at lower temperatures = save money

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PuzzledObserver · 23/07/2022 16:10

TL:DR - wash at 20 degrees, save a packet. If you are already doing this, my apologies; posting in the hope that some people don’t realise how much of a difference it could make.

For about 5 years, I have been turning the temperature on my washing machine down from the default of 40 to 30. The washing still seemed clean, I assumed it would save me money and be good for the planet.

Just recently I have become intensely interested in how much electricity things use, trying to reduce unnecessary usage and move as much as possible times when it’s cheaper. So I have got used to how much various appliances use, e.g. using the oven and hob to cook a meal will use about 1.5kWh, the dishwasher and washing machine both use about 1kWh per cycle. My solar system has monitoring which means I can see the power being used every 5 minutes.

Then one day I looked at the 20 degree option on the washing machine and thought I would give it a go.

The result….. I can barely see the energy being used by a washing machine cycle. It used to draw about 2kW for 10-15 minutes. Now the heating cycle doesn’t even last long enough to get picked up by the 5 minute monitoring. Spin seems to use about 700W but only for a few minutes.

So instead of using 1kWh per cycle, it’s using about a quarter of that. So if you’re on the standard variable tariff of about 28p/kWh, that would save you 21p every time you put the machine on. If, as some forecaster are suggesting, electricity goes up to 40p/kWh in October, you would then save 30p per cycle.

Multiply that by the number of times your machine goes on per week, it will add up to quite a few pounds every month, which for many people these days could be significant.

Hope this helps someone.

OP posts:
Ontomatopea · 24/07/2022 09:05

devonianBiatch · 24/07/2022 07:50

I use everybody to download their appliance manuals. Within those manuals ( providing they are pretty recent ) you will find a break down of what each cycle/programme uses and hood much electricity/water is needed. It actually tells you the cheapest and most efficient wash. Often it is not what you expect. My most efficient wash is AA-+ rated but takes 3 hours!! Seems bonkers to me that the wash can take so long but be cheaper than a perfectly serviceable 14 m quick wash.

Yes that's like mine. The really long wash is actually the most efficient but I expect it is because it sits and soaks a bit as part of the cycle.

Does anyone know what detergent works best for a 20 degree wash?

midgetastic · 24/07/2022 09:06

Eco mode in a dishwasher is longer because the machine first injects a load of steam into the machine which sits there gradually softening the muck and killing bugs ... it takes time

Then when the machine needs to do the wash stage it is much quickwr

Discovereads · 24/07/2022 09:08

ReviewingTheSituation · 24/07/2022 08:37

An eco /60c /quick programme...?

Eco programmes are longer (the cause of much debate on here, often, but it's the way things are) and 60c is never going to tick an eco box, so not sure how that works?

If you mean you can push a 'quick wash' button on your machine to shorten the length of a wash and you push that on an 'eco' programme, you are very likely to be negating the eco benefits by doing so. Same for overriding the temp on an eco programme.

Ok,
There are three basic facts:
Quick washes are more eco friendly than long washes
Low temp washes are more eco friendly than high temp washes
Less water is more eco friendly than more water

What is eco friendly can literally be trading off between these three facts with different balances but overall equivalent energy savings. They aren’t all equal though. If you have 90C wash, 90% of energy goes to just heating the water up. So temperature is the low hanging fruit, and lowering it is the easiest way to save energy.

The standard eco wash was designed to use cooler temperature but then had to run longer and use a bit more water to make sure the clothes still got completely clean. But overall, energy is saved compared to a regular long hot wash.

Some washers now also have a quick eco setting. This setting saves energy by having a shorter cycle and uses less water so you can have a higher temperature (usually 40-60C) and still overall save energy compared to a regular wash. So while it uses around 20% more energy than a standard eco wash, it also uses around half the water. But it is still a lot less energy and more eco friendly than a regular non eco mode wash.

Afterfire · 24/07/2022 09:14

DoverShortcutPlan · 24/07/2022 08:32

I've tried 30° washes but it just doesn't get through sweaty stinky teenage armpits. So their stuff is done at 40, and mine at 30. I may just try mine at 20, as I'm no longer a stinky teenager!

See for me all this sorting things into different loads defeats the purpose as I’d be doing more loads - it’s more economical for our family just to bung everything in at 30/40 otherwise I end up having to do more separate loads just to get everything done.

Mindymomo · 24/07/2022 09:14

I wash at 30, short wash, in with washing I put a jug of hot water from tap with washing powder dissolved. I stop my machine on spin after a minute, it doesn’t need a long spin and drys just as quick with less wrinkles.

TheTeenageYears · 24/07/2022 09:16

We have 30 or cold option. In the summer presumably the cold option is probably not far off 20 but in winter sadly no option so 30 it is.

ReviewingTheSituation · 24/07/2022 09:51

@Discovereads - but quick washes are not more eco friendly than long washes! Eco washes take longer than 'normal' washes. It comes up on here ALL the time (and there are a zillion articles online explaining why, even if it seems counterintuitive)

Morph22010 · 24/07/2022 09:56

Discovereads · 24/07/2022 08:18

Depends on your washer. Some brands do have an eco setting for a quick 60C wash which is the temperature you need to santise baby things.

I used to use the quick wash on my machine. I also had a problem where I was coming out in hives on my arms which I thought was an allergy or insect bites but eventually narrowed it down to the quick wash on my machine as since I’ve not used quick wash I’ve not had anymore, it must not rinse as well

Discovereads · 24/07/2022 10:10

ReviewingTheSituation · 24/07/2022 09:51

@Discovereads - but quick washes are not more eco friendly than long washes! Eco washes take longer than 'normal' washes. It comes up on here ALL the time (and there are a zillion articles online explaining why, even if it seems counterintuitive)

Sigh. Yes if you are talking about regular quick washes. But my Samsung Ecobubble as an Eco 40-60C quick wash that is eco friendly and is an eco wash.
It has to be a quick wash at 40-60C to be an eco wash because it’s not a low temp wash.

On a side note, I have solar panels so am using solar energy generated electricity to heat the washer water.

As I said my washer is less than a year old. I think you’re simply a bit behind on recent washing technology.

Washing at lower temperatures = save money
Discovereads · 24/07/2022 10:17

@ReviewingTheSituation
quick washes are not more eco friendly than long washes!
Yes they are. The more time your washer is running, the more energy it uses.

Standard eco washes use more energy running the washer than a standard or quick wash, but overall use less energy because they’re using much lower temperature water. This is because heating water takes a lot of energy.

PuzzledObserver · 24/07/2022 17:13

Reading later responses, I can see that it’s a lot more complicated than I first thought.

Obviously, no-one wants to wash in a way which doesn’t leave the clothes clean and smelling clean. No stinky teenagers or mudlark kids in this house, that’s possibly why I’ve found 20 degrees good enough. I can see that if you need to separate into too many different loads it could become onerous. The extent of my sorting is “darks” and “lights”.

We also use liquid detergent (non bio) as a routine, so dissolving or lack of it is not an issue.

On the dishwasher front, I think I’m going to have to study the manual in more detail and maybe revisit my policy.

OP posts:
takeitandleaveit · 24/07/2022 17:21

I've bravely attempted to use the 30 degree was more often, but it just doesn't cut the mustard on dirty laundry.

woodhill · 24/07/2022 17:24

KangarooKenny · 23/07/2022 16:13

I wonder why the manufacturers stopped the hot fill facility. I’ve got hot water sat in my tank, yet the machine fills cold and then heats it up.

Yes I wondered about that too

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