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Spending no more than £12,000 on everyday living in 2018

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BixieThoms · 05/01/2018 09:16

Me and DP are starting to turn our attentions very seriously to early retirement. We're some years off yet but we're working towards it and thinking about what life will be like when we get there.

In 2018, we've decided to have a practice run on the money front and see if we can bring in our yearly everyday living expenses at less than £12,000 for the year.

We're not including our mortgage payments or what we pay on commuting in this because those costs won't exist when we're retired.

We've worked out that all of our "necessary" bills (not including food shopping) come in at about £400 per month:

Gas/electricity: £60
Council Tax: £95
Water: £23
Phone/Internet: £55
Gym: £40
Dog grooming: £30
Beauty Stuff: £30
Birthdays/Xmases averaged out per month (other people's presents, not me and DP buying for each other): £40
Home Insurance: £10

Monthly total: £383

I say "necessary" as some could be cut but this is how it stands at the minute. That leaves us about £600 per month for food shopping and treats. So, about £150 per week

To try and achieve this, we've got three aims:

  • Try and bring in a weekly shop for as close to £40 as possible
In the past, we've had online shopping delivered twice per week (with a minimum £40 spend each time) and have spent an average of about £90 per week on shopping. This year we're going to have cheaper meals whenever we can and try to concoct meals from bits and pieces we've got left over from previous weeks. We're also going to cut down on buying sparkling water (currently costing us about £80 per year and generating lots of plastic waste).
  • Shop around for best prices on bills In the past we've been lazy and auto-renewed for basically everything. This year, we've already saved £250 on our home insurance by swapping provider Grin We're looking at energy providers over the weekend and will call our internet provider when our contract is up to see what they can do for us.
  • Start accounting for every penny At the end of each month, we're going to download our statement and see exactly where our money's been spent so we can map where it's all going and if there are any ways we can trim this back. Where we get cash out, we're going to account for where this went too. For me, this means avoiding "popping" into the £1 shop where I can very easily spend £10 on basically nothing.

In November, we should have a pretty good idea of how well we've done and we'll use this to set a Christmas budget. We've never had a budget at Christmas before and normally spend £200-£500 on each other. However, we can still have an amazing Christmas on £50 or £100 each so we'll see how much we get Grin

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AdoraBell · 06/01/2018 16:51

I would like to do this too, haven’t discussed with DH yet.

One thing though, food is not an optional extra, it should be near the top of the list, if not at the top.

Wrongwayup · 06/01/2018 19:22

How old are you now? how come no housing? where is the 12000 a year going to come from?

MessySurfaces · 06/01/2018 20:01

We're planning to retire at 45 so hopefully a good number of years in very good health*

If you can swing it then you'd be mad not to! I'd want a bit of slack in the budget though in case you find yourself sat in a chair at 98 having run out of money and marbles, and in need of a more expensive lifestyle than earlier on.
The other great advantage of retiring so very early is that you can pick up odd bits of consultancy or other work along the way to round things out and go into the slack fund too. Or even go back to working if retirement gets dull! You will have many many options

BixieThoms · 08/01/2018 08:16

Adora I didn't include food in the "essentials" list because our food bill can be changed whereas the other bills are pretty much set. The main bulk of our saving this year will come from savings on food bills.

Wrongway Me and DP are 31/32. We do have a mortgage to pay at the minute but we tend to count this as part of our investments and we won't have housing costs once e're retired as we'll have paid off the mortgage. The £12,000 comes from our salaries.

Messy Yeah, that's the plan Grin

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RavingRoo · 08/01/2018 08:17

12k per year is a lot of money. Are you sure there aren’t more economies to be made?

Deadlylampshade · 08/01/2018 08:24

Don’t quit the gym, budget it in.
I used to work in an upmarket gym and it was full of retirees enjoying their ritirement. For what you pay it’s actually really good value for money to always have somewhere you can go which is fun and keeps you active. Many of the riterees that went (a wide range of ages too) used it as the hub of their social life, they mostly came every day and did a class or two and went for a swim and had a coffee. It is lovely and yes you could economise by quitting but you still need a quality of life and it’s probably cheaper than paying to go for lunch to meet friends and then for a coffee etc.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/01/2018 08:37

I’d definitely keep the gym membership etc in the budget. You don’t want to retire and not be able to afford to do the things you enjoy.

The only thing which would worry me-retiring at 45 - would you really have the money in place every year for another 45 years possibly? That seems a mind boggling amount of time.

Are you not having kids?

InfiniteSheldon · 08/01/2018 08:39

That's about what we spend, we have solar panels so cheaper electric/gas and grow a lot of veggies. We are channeling all excess money into a BTL so when we can't work we have some extra top up income. Spend low now, get used to it and you can live comfortably later.

Pebble21uk · 08/01/2018 08:43

Great idea and go for it, but you do seem to have very few direct debits... you have house insurance but what about life insurance for both of you if you are working and have a mortgage?

Also pet insurance - dogs can get very expensive as they get older with vets bills?

Holidays? I know they're optional in a way, but surely at 31 and 32 you intend to do some travel? Travel insurance?

BixieThoms · 08/01/2018 08:50

No, we're not having kids.

We don't have life insurance or pet insurance.

Re holidays- we don't go on holiday every year because of the dog. We put holidays down as an "extraordinary" expense whereas the £12,000 I'm talking about here is for everyday spending.

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Deadlylampshade · 08/01/2018 09:03

I would say that you need crittical insurance and pet insurance, it’s not that much really.

Deadlylampshade · 08/01/2018 09:03

*critical illness

InfiniteSheldon · 08/01/2018 09:05

I have premium bonds instead of pet insurance. Add to it every year instead of paying premiums and reinvest winnings. Pet insurance is a massive rip off imo.

Deadlylampshade · 08/01/2018 09:10

Hmmm I thought that until I had my dogs leg repinned and would have cost thousands and thousands without insurance.
It’s a bit like a lottery I suppose.

Littlechocola · 08/01/2018 09:15

I wish my head was as screwed on as yours op.

FauxFox · 08/01/2018 09:24

Really curious why you'd want to retire at 45? That potentially leaves a further 45 years of your life and if you will be living frugally/not travelling etc I wonder what your life will be like? Are you planning to pursue arty things or hobbies? Or do you just hate your job? What would your week look like at 40-something and retired?

Feel free to ignore my nosiness Grin just really interested to know why anyone would want to retire so young (unless its a health issue?) I don't think I will ever want to completely retire....

BixieThoms · 08/01/2018 09:32

FauxFox Grin I don't mind you being nosy!

No, I don't hate my job. It's an okay job, good pay, good conditions. I don't have any health problems.

My job's a means to an end- it pays for me to exist so once I have enough money to exist for the rest of my life, I don't see why I'd bother carrying on. My job's fine but it's not how I'd choose to spend 9-5, Monday-Friday every week for 47 weeks of the year. Life is very short and freedom/time is more precious to me than anything else so as soon as I'm able to have freedom/time, I'll take it.

For as much of my life as possible, I want to wake up naturally on Monday mornings and think "What shall I do today and the rest of this week?". At the moment I wake up with an alarm on Monday morning thinking "What do I have to do today and the rest of this week?" Those are two very different questions.

I don't know what a typical week will look like, that's the beauty of it. Maybe I'll find a new hobby, maybe I'll take up part-time work doing something I love, maybe I'll start a business, maybe I'll do crafting, maybe I'll learn Mandarin, maybe I'll just sit in my pyjamas watching Lorraine. I don't know. The important thing is that I'll have the freedom/time/choice to do whatever I want.

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titchy · 08/01/2018 09:35

If you retire at 45 where is the £12k a year going to come from?

FauxFox · 08/01/2018 09:36

I kind of get it - you'll be able to work (or not) for the enjoyment of it rather than because you need to... I just don't think I would like it but It's great you feel like that & I hope you really enjoy it Smile

titchy · 08/01/2018 09:37

Starting a new hobby, taking Mandarin classes etc will cost money... I suspect that a few months of not having much structure or income to enjoy your spare time will mean you end up watching daytime tv and being bored shitless!

FauxFox · 08/01/2018 09:38

Oh and I would budget in some extra money foe activities/craft stuff/days out etc so you'll have more choice in what to do with all your free time Smile

Chopchopbusybusy · 08/01/2018 09:40

I think you’re being a bit unrealistic to be honest. Is the plan to save about £150000 from your salary over the next 15 years?
Surely you don’t have the choice to sit in pyjamas and watch Lorraine if you don’t have a tv licence.

BixieThoms · 08/01/2018 09:50

Plan is to save £500,000 over the next 15 years (between me and DP). I was joking about Lorraine, making the point that I'd have the freedom to do whatever I fancied however unproductive.

titchy I'm already bored shitless by work. I'd rather be bored shitless with the freedom to do something about it on my own terms IYSWIM.

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Chopchopbusybusy · 08/01/2018 10:04

How many years is the £500000 going to fund? Do you have a pension which will kick in at 55 or 65?
We’re retiring this year so I’ve put a lot of thought into how much money we’ll need. We’re retiring early but nowhere near as early as 45. We want to be able to enjoy our retirement including holidays, eating out and hobbies. We reckon we’ll spend less as we get older but the first 10 years or so we expect to be quite expensive.

titchy · 08/01/2018 10:48

Being bored with nothing to do will cost money.... And if you have half a million in the bank living frugally will tempt you to dip into that. A few nice holidays, hobbies etc. Before you know it your fund has run out and you have no pension.

How about spending your energy into getting a job you enjoy.

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