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You know you're truly skint when...

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ratflavouredjelly · 11/05/2012 13:46

I've decided to humour myself and start this thread laughs hysterically. Anyone care to join me with their stories. Maybe we can out skint each other...

So, you know you're truly skint when:
Shopping in charity shops are no longer ironic.
The middle of the month arrives and you panic about feeding the family.
You can not afford the petrol to work.
You're growing your own veg but cannot stretch to compost to enrich the soil.
DS and DD's shoes are too tight (something you never thought you would allow to happen)
Your bra is too tight, buying a new one is out of the question, so you just 'get used' to the pain.
Yadda harumph harumph

OP posts:
Xenia · 23/05/2012 14:52

I suppose those who have been let down by a man if you hadnever relied on a man for money that might have meant things were easier. May be if people were GPs say they would be less likely to be in trouble in a recession, therefore had their parents said - go to medical school for example and indeed today posters could encourage that because on the whole doctors earn more than some other jobs that might help.

All the problems seem to flow from inabilty to earn much more than the minimum wage. It's that low income trap which catches a lot of women although I certainly agree in recessions even high earning women can lose jobs. Amazingly I have never felt as secure as since I worked for myself even though I get no sick pay, no SMP, no holiday pay, pension etc. It still feels more secure than having an employer.

Vagaceratops · 23/05/2012 14:54

Honestly Xenia can you just get off this thread? Its not the place for your social experiments or your chest-beating.

5madthings · 23/05/2012 14:56

wonders just how many gps and surgeons xenia thinks we need in this country, its not a job that everyone can do, nor one that everyone wants to do, and we NEED people to do the lower paid jobs, the economy would grind to a halt without them!

Hullygully · 23/05/2012 14:56

Xenia what you can never understand is that because you did it, it doesn't mean that everyone can.

Really, it doesn't.

Just like not everyone can be Gandhi, or Branson, or Jobs or Nicola Horlick or Angela Merkel etc etc etc.

Most people struggle along doing their best and being you know, ordinary.

Pep talks aren't going to do it. And they certainly don't help here.

FlouncyMcFlouncer · 23/05/2012 15:01

Xenia why not go and start a new thread in Chat called 'Is it your own fault you're no wealthier'? This is a lighthearted but supportive thread and 'look, you could have had a better life' is really neither of those things.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers · 23/05/2012 15:01

Chortle at thinking of the blank look on my face as my parents looked earnestly at me with my language/arts leanings and recommended that I go to medical school...Grin They had enough trouble persuading me to stay at school in the 6th form!

stressedHEmum · 23/05/2012 15:06

Because there are quite a lot of us and we have 4 adults, 2 teens and a preteen, when I have to keep the food bill to rock bottom, we eat even more simply than normal. So an example would be

Soak and cook 2lbs of chick peas and divide into 3 portions.

meal 1 - chick peas with pasta - 1 1/2 bags value pasta with 2 or 3 onions fried with a head of garlic in some oil, when onions are soft add chick peas and heat through. Mix pasta with chick pea mix. If you have any a tiny bit of grated hard cheese (gran padano) makes this even better.

meal 2 - pasta and chick pea soup - 2 chopped onions, a head of garlic, 2nd portion of chick peas cooked in 4 pints or so of veg stock for about 20 mins. Roughly blend but still have bits of chick pea in the soup. Add the remaining half of the bag of pasta and cook for another 15 mins. Serve with crusty bread (HM is cheapest unless you get a mark down)

Then I make hummus with the third portion using a simple recipe without tahini with the rest of the chick peas.

Next soak 2lbs of dried marrowfat peas overnight and make them into mushy peas.

meal 1 - serve some of the peas with jacket potatoes with a little bit of cheese grated on top and some sliced tomato and onion.

meal 2 - make a very simple dahl by frying 2 chopped onions with some curry powder and mixing through the remaining mushy peas. Heat through and serve over rice

other main meals

cheese puff - make cheese sandwiches with 2 slices of bread per person. Cut them in half and lay them in a lasagne type dish. To make this for 4, beat 4 eggs into a pint of milk, season well and pour over the sandwiches. Sprinkle a little grated cheese over the top. Leave for 15minutes or so for the egg to sink into the bread, then bake at 180 for about 45minutes. Serve with cooked, frozen mixed veg.

oat savoury - for 4 people you need 16tblspns porridge oats, 3 tins chopped tomatoes, a couple of chopped onions and some herbs of your choice.

Butter a baking dish really well and then sprinkle in 4tblspns of the oats, top with some of the onion, one of the tins of tomatoes, salt, pepper and herbs of your choosing. Repeat the layers another twice and top with the remaining oats. You can sprinkle the top with a little grated cheese if you want. bake at 180 for between 45 mins and an hour. Serve with bread and butter and more mixed veg.

lentil chilli - cook a bag of green lentils in water until done. Fry 2 chopped onions with some garlic until soft. Add 2 tins of tomatoes and some chilli powder, salt and pepper. Add lentils and simmer for 1/2 an hour. Serve with the rest of the bag of rice from the dahl.

Breakfast would be porridge made 1/2 milk, 1/2 water, hm pancakes/yoghurt loaf or toast an peanut butter/jam.

Lunches would be,

sandwiches with hummus and grated carrot with a few raisins sprinkled in.
pasta with an oil and vinegar dressing with chopped onions and frozen peas mixed through
sandwiches with peanut butter and apple slices
mashed potato cakes with tinned beans
spicy potatoes and cabbage - 3lbs chopped potatoes, par boiled, 1 cabbage (or any other robust type of green) chopped, 1 onion, chopped, curry powder.

Fry the onion and cabbage with the curry powder until the cabbage is well wilted. Add the par boiled potatoes and cook, stirring all the time, until everything is cooked and tender

snacks and puddings would be hm yoghurt loaf, jam buns, swiss buns or whatever or toast and jam.

As I say, very simple but filling and nourishing. I think that when times are hard,kids just have to accept that they eat what's cooked because we can't afford fussiness. In here, if they don't et what's made they get a bit of bread and peanut butter and a piece of fruit, but nothing else and they all accept that. They would rather eat than be hungry, so they are happy to eat like this.

If you want any more really cheap recipes, I have tons that I'm happy to share.

stressedHEmum · 23/05/2012 15:23

Xenia - I wish that I'd worked harder at uni and gone on to my PhD. I wish that my first husband hadn't been a prat that left me pregnant, with a toddler and thousands of pounds of debt. I wish my 2nd husband hadn't had a nervous breakdown, become addicted to alcohol and drugs and then lost his well paid job after several stays in psychiatric hospital. I wish that 3 of my children hadn't been born with autism, making them need much more full on care than other kids.....

All well and good wishing isn't it? hind sight has 20/20 vision and all that. As it is, all these things did happen and I've just had to make the best of it. Anyway, I wouldn't change things because then I wouldn't have my 5 wonderful children who are, quite often, the only bright spot in my life.

twirlyagogo · 23/05/2012 15:27

Hello Xenia - wonder when I should have tried harder? When I dragged myself out of where I was brought up? During my degree? During my next degree? Maybe during my next degree? I am doing not too bad just now, but it's all so tenuous for most of us and it wasn't so long ago that I was weeping in the supermarket at the thought of having to buy nappies. If some of us can help others on this thread, can I suggest you just leave us to it because most of us have the sense and empathy to realise we're all so close to it these days.

Grrrr · 23/05/2012 15:36

I remember being skint from my childhood.

Looking back you realise your parents were skint when you recall wearing hand me downs from the girl next door (and her cousins had worn them before her), your brother (t shirts/shorts only) and your best friend at school, all of whom were bigger than me despite being the same age.

You realise your parents were skint when you are 7 and had to wear a best pair of flowery knickers to go swimming with the girl next door when invited and pretend you had left the "bikini" top part at home. (Mum didn't want me to miss out in the invitation as it included having tea at their house too !)

You realise your parents were skint when you look back and remember eating egg and home made (yummy,freshly fried) chips very often for tea. (Potatoes and eggs both home grown !) Everything was made from scratch foodwise until our family finances improved when I was about 11.

You realise your parents were skint when your Granny takes you shopping to buy some new dresses as she can't stand seeing you in your brother's hand me downs, although things did improve once I got to school and got cast offs form best friend too.

You realise your parents were skint when your grandparents paid for an annual week's holiday each year until you went to secondary school, as I said earlier finances improved then. My parents stressed over saving up enough spending money to last for the week and it was always self-catering with food brought from home and fish and chips on the last night. Mostly we sepnt our time on the beach whch was free.

You realise your parents were skint when it dawns on you that you never went to the cinema or swimming pool or any activity such as Brownies/Cubs etc that cost money. You had homemade ice lollies and ginger beer and all birthdays were a few friends round for sandwiches/fruit squash and cake/ginger beer/ice lollies. Having guests for meals was usually preceded by having FHB whispered to us kids (Family Hold Back) so that the guests got enough to eat and never presumably realised that we kids didn't actually have sparrow sized appetites. We filled up on toast or free in season fruit later.

I'm sorting out too small shoes/wellies/sandals in the next few days and will offer what I can plus clothes too. I've stopped freecycling as the same greedy beggers always get in touch wanting anything good and I'm sure they must be flogging it on. My local charity shops seem very expensive these days, I'd hardly call them cheap bearing in mind the stuff was donated in the first place.

I had quite a skint childhood but for me, the child, it was still a happy one with lots of love and cuddles.

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 23/05/2012 15:49

Talking of chick peas and coconut milk my friend does a fabulous coconut chick pea curry - main ingredients chick pea, tinned tomatoes, coconut milk, spices. Don't know the exact recipe but experiment if you like the sound of it - it's great ! Could have with rice, potatoes, or pasta Smile

RubyGates · 23/05/2012 15:50

Hully What would Jeremy say!?

BoffinMum I'd love to, but what would I write about?

Everyone else Blush

The £30 grocery thing is difficult for me to quantify, because I don't have a set weekly menu or shopping list. I stuff the freezer with amazing mark-downs (after doing a victory dance in the supermarket), I stock up on tins when they appear at good prices in Home Bargains or if Asda are doing their ethnic food reductions (4 tins for a pound on chopped toms and chick peas for instance). I also buy bulk rice twice a year (approx) as the really big bags are often on offer during Ramadan and other festivals. I use Lidl for non-reduced basics and Home Bargains for cleaning stuff like bleach and loo roll (thick bleach 39p, nice thick loo roll 4 for a pound)because it's cheaper than the pound store. I grow stuff in the garden, but sadly I had to give the allotment up because I couldn't find the time to do it justice when my work hours increased. Lentils are your friend.

I dance for joy if I find a very reduced joint because then I can follow a traditional: joint on sunday, cold with chips and salad on Monday, Shepherd's pie on Tuesday, Pie (bulked out with other stuff) on Wednesday. Joint all gone by Thursday... So Rice or Pasta based meal and Fish on Friday. Saturday is traditionally curry day in our house. Curry is made with tinned steak, Chickpeas, onion, apple, coconut (from a block) and sultanas . Rice and lentils cooked together as an acompaniment. Sausages usually fill any gaps in the menu ( toad in the hole, sausage and mash, sausage casserole etc) if the joint gives out too soon.
A slow cooker is an enormous help too.

I've just discovered Approved Foods so I'm looking forward to our first delivery!

Hullygully · 23/05/2012 15:52

Jeremy has taken a great liking to you. He is keen for you to blog with Boffin.

captainmummy · 23/05/2012 16:00

Xenia - are you a journalist?

Hullygully · 23/05/2012 16:01

No, she is a lawyer who has her own island and thinks everyone can do the same if only they tried...

twirlyagogo · 23/05/2012 16:02

Still have:

34D bra and knickers, pink and coloured check, New Look so on small side of 34D (ie not me Grin), still with tags, completely new

Floaty cream lace top size 14

Marvel t shirt age 5

New look navy short sleeved t shirt for boy age 5

Wallis brown floral wrap dress size 14, knee length

5madthings · 23/05/2012 16:03

well apparently the island wasnt THAT expensive and there are various 'cheap' ones available, so long as you can then afford to get to your island by boat or helicopter...

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers · 23/05/2012 16:05

I know Xenia can be annoying but you are really giving her the third degree there stressedHEmum...
(sorry couldn't resist) Grin

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers · 23/05/2012 16:06

Sorry that was twirly!

Hullygully · 23/05/2012 16:08

She has a completely valid point: women (girls) should be made to understand the importance of self-reliance and being able to support themselves, but it is not the point here. And it ignores life's vicissitudes.

slartybartfast · 23/05/2012 16:10

have you swallowed a dictionary today hullygully ? Grin

good word

RubyGates · 23/05/2012 16:12

So Xenia, are you saying that people who pack vegetables, clean toilets, sweep roads etc, just shouldn't have children?

If they don't have children where will the next generation of people who do these necessary jobs come from?

twirlyagogo · 23/05/2012 16:19

To get back on track Smile:

5-6 black Star Wars t shirt with Darth Vader
New Look size 12 new, black and white gingham blouse

And three useless degrees for LieIns if she wants them Grin . . .

Grrrr · 23/05/2012 16:31

I'm stunned - 3 degrees ?

I was in enough debt after my first, the thought of postponing serious earning long enough to accumulate 3 degrees leaves me figuring I'd be a lot worse off than I am now.

CakeMeIAmYours · 23/05/2012 16:36

You have to return the M&S dressing gown your mum gave you for Xmas in order to use the resulting gift vouchers to purchase food in the M&S Food Hall.

...and then snigger to yourself about the irony of tucking into M&S goodies when having to walk everywhere because you can't afford the bus fare.

(thankfully a temporary situation, but was a valuable life lesson)