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welshbyrd · 21/08/2011 12:33

Last few days, I have come across 2 threads about expensive food/gas/electric have become, a lot of Mnrs have replied to these thread, like me, are scared about winter food/bills shooting up

In my situation Im all ready stretched to the max, so really am dreading this winter in the UK, I have looked up a few weather predicting sites, they are all saying this winter is going to be worse, than the last four Sad

From reading these threads I know Im not alone is being worried.Some very kind poster mailed me the £30 a week meal planner, I really am truly grateful
Has anyone else got any money saving idea/experience that can make mine and other Mnrs winter more bearable?

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alphabettyspagghetti · 23/08/2011 09:23

Pull the curtain back when opening the door.

If you havent got space on either side of the door, then you will better with draft excluders. The ones you stick to the frame/door as well as the ones you shove at the bottom of the door.

ChippyMinton · 23/08/2011 09:36

I will give it a go with a normal rail, I think, having looked at the price of the portier rods Shock.

And fashion a draft excluder for the bottom.

There's no solution for when everyone is out of the house, though, is there?

DrKoothrappali · 23/08/2011 09:47

A few people have asked about keeping heating on a thermostat versus putting it on a few hours in the morning and a few in the evening. When I was at uni one of my physics professors assured us impoverished students that it was better to leave it on.

I turn the boiler on to 24/7 setting and then allow my programmable thermostat to maintain 16 in the day and 14 at night.

The heat transfer (loss) from warm inside to the cold outside is proportional to the temperature gradient between the two (ie. the temp diff between inside and out), so cold weather requires more energy to maintain the constant inside temperature than a warmer day would.

It isn't a straight calculation though because it is complicated by the wind chill factor. So more heat will be lost from a house exposed to strong winds than the same house on a non-windy but colder day.
Also, if you don't have cavity walls and one side of your house is in the driving rain it can make the damp and this will reduce its insulation value.

All the materials in your home, the bricks, the plasterboard etc, have a specific heat value. This is a measure of the quantity of heat a material can hold. Most materials don't hold much heat, though others like stone and water hold quite a lot.

The advantage of leaving the heating on a low set thermostat 24/7 is that the fabric of the house warms up and acts as a heat sink. This reduces the fluctuations in internal temperature between clear days and very cold nights.

If you were to turn off the heating in the day, say whilst out at work, and the fabric of the building cooled down when you heat it back up again you will need more energy to get the house back to a comfortable temperature, as before the inside can feel warm, the fabric of the house will 'soak' up some of the heat generated.

I hope that makes some sense.

So let it get a little colder at night but don't let the fabric of the house get cold. Once the house gets cold its very expensive to get it warm again.

Jdub · 23/08/2011 09:53

What a magnificent thread - makes me feel all thrifty and domestic just reading it!

We are thinking of installing a wood burning stove. Despite the obvious initial outlay for installation, how do they rate on the cosy and economical stakes?

curlywurlycremeegg · 23/08/2011 10:10

Jdub ours cost just over £1000 to buy and install to HETAS standards, in the six months we have had it and added extra insulation we have save £650 on our energy bills, well worth it. We haven't bought any wood yet, neighbours and friends have given us wood they were throwing out so we have a massive stockpile in wood sheds and the green house that will probably last us a good 18 months.

curlywurlycremeegg · 23/08/2011 10:14

Forgot to add, we are so happy with it we are installing another into our open plan family/dining/kitchen room. We got our from a uk based firm vesta stoves a family run business, they are really helpful and offer a cashback scheme if you recommend to a friend and they buy. So far we have had two friends buy after seeing ours so earned £140 back from them, so you could cut the cost further if you think you have friends/family who may also buy one :)

Jdub · 23/08/2011 10:17

That IS magnificent! Bring on the snow! They do seem to be coming down abit in price too, as when we have previously investigated them, they all seemed close to £800 just for the unit itself, without flue costs and installation etc. Definitely the way forward then!

NickettyNacketty · 23/08/2011 10:18

A rising portiere for your front door can be bought for around 20 quid and will enable curtain to be over the door even when everyone is out.

ChippyMinton · 23/08/2011 10:27

Thanks NickettyNacketty - any idea where I could get one for £20? I've been looking online and they are all £50+.

alphabettyspagghetti · 23/08/2011 10:27

The only thing you can do when everyone is out is just make sure all internal doors are closed and draft excluders on the outside of the door.

sieglinde · 23/08/2011 10:43

We don't turn on central heating till All Saints Day - 1 November. We have an open fire on very cold days till then. Drink hot drinks all day and put on more clothes.

We get Ocado groceries on Saturday nights 8.30-9.30; delivery is 99p.

No tv, as we don't get a signal and cancelled Sky. No newspapers. Have taken one car off the road and the other is a Prius.

NickettyNacketty · 23/08/2011 10:49

www.tracksandpoles.com/rod_portiere.shtml I just googled and found this one.
I had one in my last house and got it from a local shop. Can't have one here because we rent but will definitely get one once we buy again.

alphabettyspagghetti · 23/08/2011 10:55

To help with your phone bill www.saynoto0870.com/search.php, I used this today to get through to Nectar card as I couldn't remember any of the log in details. I went in through BP on their 0800 number and got to nectar that way.

It really does work.

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Ilikepinkwine · 23/08/2011 11:33

We are saving to install a woodburner but think it will take another year. Those of you that have had them fitted, did you all pay outright for the stove and installation? Looks like it will set us back about £1500 (including building a fireplace) but I know it will be a good investment.

curlywurlycremeegg · 23/08/2011 11:44

We paid for ours outright but bought things in stages and had it fitted when we could afford to. I got the stove for under £600, the fitter supplied the flue and fitted the stove with a registration plate (stops fumes coming back down the chimmney for £500, the place I ordered the welsh slate from made a monumental cock up, I had to threaten court action as had paid just over £350 and the first hearth they delivered was completely the wrong size, they then took over 8 weeks to sort it out, in the end I ended up with two slate hearths (the wrong sized one I am using for the one we are installing in the family room) for £150! DH had to rebuild the fireplace as I had made him rip it out a few years ago Grin

Ilikepinkwine · 23/08/2011 11:46

That is how we are going to do it, start saving for installation and buy the parts gradually. It is going to be expensive but will be worth it.

bebejones · 23/08/2011 12:22

I love this thread! So many good ideas :)

I have been planning winter & Christmas for a month or so now (unfortunately these plans did not include a £400 vet bill which I am faced with today :( and subsequent £20 a week cat food bill).

I am planning on getting some cheap fleeces from Ikea to line curtains with. Will probably also knock up a fleecy curtain for our front door. We already have a draught excluder which has made a big improvement. Our house is old & draughty unfortunately. Has no insulation & gets cold very very quickly. We had planned to sort out our living room fireplace/chimney but just can't afford the expense of that at the moment even though we would recoup it in the long run. :(

I bought about 80% of DDs winter clothes in the sale after Christmas last year. Including a beautiful Boden duffle coat for £20 instead of £60!! Shock So that has saved me a few pennies. Have made sure we all have plenty of jumpers & socks/slippers.

Will be stocking the freezer with some meals & frozen stuff from the garden. Going to get some packets of things in now too. Soup is fab Winter food. Cheap, freezes well, warms you up & can be made in HUGE batches, bulk it out & make it a meal with bread if you need to and have a pud as well. I have made jams/chutneys for family for Christmas the last couple of years & they are already looking forward to homemade hampers again this year, so that saves us some cash. I'm quite crafty & have made clay name plaques for all the kids in DHs extended family (there are lots, all under 7) and have made a few other bits and bobs.

Will be watching with interest for any more tips! :o

NetworkGuy · 23/08/2011 12:22

AlphaBettySpagghetti "I went in through BP on their 0800 number and got to nectar that way."
Which firm/ service is BP, please ?

I use 1899.com (5p connection fee, 0p/min for 01/02/03 numbers) weekdays. Cheap but none (?) are free.

Only pay for what I use where some people are paying for 'anytime' calls or 'weekday evening' calls and cost may exceed what they would spend at 5p/call if they used 18185/ 18866/ 1899 etc.

Weekends, BT offers 'included' (up to 60 minutes) calls to 01/02/03 numbers and most 0870 and 0845 numbers (exceptions may include ISP dial-up numbers).

Some families may save on calls to mobiles (eg DC ringing friends) if they had one of the Tesco Mobile SIMs and a cheap mobile [to be kept at home for calls to friends]... the Tesco 1 month rolling contract SIM offers 5000 texts and 250 minutes for a tenner (500 minutes + 5000 texts for 12.50). IE roughly 4p per minute for voice calls and can be used immediately after school hours, no waiting until after 19:00 for 'evening' charges to apply. 5000 texts is also very generous. Means any DC could have simple PAYG and only be topped up once every 3 or 6 months by a fiver, but outgoing they'd use the family mobile and thus get best value out of allowance for a tenner a month ( for the whole family, not per mobile in house). Similarly, parents would use the family mobile for any 'where are you?' + 'please get some milk on way home' messages, from the 5000/month limit.

alphabettyspagghetti · 23/08/2011 12:26

I'm not sure Network guy.

If you type in the number you are trying to call on the site, it will come up with a few alternatives. Some work, some dont, it's trial and error.

The BP was an 0800 number that then gave me an option to get through to Nectar Card.

HumperdinkFangboner · 23/08/2011 13:22

Hmm we have individual thermostats in each room (underfloor heating). I have it set to 21 degrees all year, so it clicks on in any room that drops below 21. I pay £39 p/m throughout the year and am always in credit. The rooms are at 23 ATM without the heating having to come on, so it's a very warm house anyway.

I'm Shock at the price of cereal, I'm going to make porridge in the slow cooker overnight as soon as it gets a bit colder.

winnieinpooh · 23/08/2011 13:41

Can I ask a question about wood burner stoves please?

a: do you still keep all your radiators and central heating or does the wood burner replace this system?

winnieinpooh · 23/08/2011 13:46

Another question if thats ok.

With the wood, my sister lives in a house that backs on to woods. If I went and got wood from there, I'd have to let it dry out for a while wouldn't I?

LaRagazzaInglese · 23/08/2011 13:48

My mum has a chimney balloon, to block the chimney when not in use, i think she made it herself, and she said it makes a massive difference, and she also made sure there wasn't any furniture placed in front of the radiator.

curlywurlycremeegg · 23/08/2011 13:54

winneinpooh we have only had ours installed since the new year so we missed most of the worst of the winter weather. I think it depends on how big your house is, we have a large 5 bed semi, the wood burner we have installed heats the large living room and we are fitting another to heat the rear open plan family room/kitchen. However the heat does rise and if we leave the internal doors open the heat circulates. So far this year (from the second week in Jan) we have had the CH on for less that 6 hours in total! That said we have also installed very efficient insulation in our roof void, and dormer walls which I think is a contributing factor.

Regarding wood, yes it needs to be left to dry out and "season", this can take around 18 months, however you should be able to collect a lot of kindling that will dry out very quickly/be usable straight away.

:)