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Is there a gagging order

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Daffntulip · 15/09/2024 15:47

Is there a gagging order? Interesting article

centralbylines.co.uk/news/health/covid-19-is-there-a-gagging-order/

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Bramshott · 25/09/2024 09:43

I think understandably the personal and societal impact of the pandemic means that people are keen to forget about it and move on. The same thing happened after the global flu pandemic in 1919.

rockstarshoes · 26/09/2024 08:28

I definitely think the Govt should be doing more to try to avoid so many of us catching covid on a regular basis.

Better ventilation in public buildings & schools would be a start & improving workers rights around sick pay so that people who are sick can actually stay at home!

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 26/09/2024 08:33

If there was a gagging order you wouldn't see 'articles' like this or threads like this.

You can go back to polishing your tinfoil hat safe in that knowledge.

rockstarshoes · 26/09/2024 09:52

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 26/09/2024 08:33

If there was a gagging order you wouldn't see 'articles' like this or threads like this.

You can go back to polishing your tinfoil hat safe in that knowledge.

I don't think anyone thinks there is an actual gagging order!

'It matters, because the airbrushing of Covid-19 from the narrative leads to ignorance and complacency in the wider population and this is a problem. Covid-19 has not become less dangerous just because it is not talked about'
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You just have to see the response on here when someone says they have tested positive! Why are you testing? Don't test then etc etc.

And meanwhile the number of sick people unable to work from the impacts of COVID goes up, the amount of benefit claimed goes up and low & behold the Economy is stalling & people are getting sicker!

It's not all Covid, not saying that before I get told to get my tin foil hat off!

We need some proper guidance & Govt Action on living & working with COVID not just it's over get on with it!

Daffntulip · 26/09/2024 09:58

I'm looking for the impacts of what covid is doing right now to be acknowledged. I mentioned the example of school absence earlier. This week it's been those unable to work - what politician has mentioned the impact that health issues following a covid infection has on that figure? I'd like coverage of key points from covid inquiry too.

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NewspaperTaxis · 26/09/2024 12:25

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 26/09/2024 08:33

If there was a gagging order you wouldn't see 'articles' like this or threads like this.

You can go back to polishing your tinfoil hat safe in that knowledge.

That would only apply if Mumsnet were subject to it, surely? Actually, Mumsnet has been very good with allowing me to air grievances against Surrey County Council's safeguarding teams - only nixing it when I mentioned individual names. Oh, and when I compared them to the Gestapo! But despite having several stories about adult social care/care homes in the local and national press, none of them are able to mention the wrongdoing of social services let alone name any of them and the issue of euthanasia via fluid withdrawal or anything else like that just doesn't get a look in now. It does seem someone's been tipped off, but exactly who directs it and how it works, I don't know.

scalt · 26/09/2024 12:41

@Trobealone I don't think nudging is possible on a global scale. And I don't underestimate Covid: it can kill, I think I probably had it in 2019, when the narrative was still "it's nothing to worry about", and I remember how ill I felt.

What I think is really dangerous is when the government or the media takes one side of the argument, and presents it as 100% fact, and the other side simply cannot be heard at all, and is labelled as "dangerous misinformation". This happened a lot: nobody was allowed to say that lockdowns were harmful, while they were happening. When people find that they are "cancelled" if they try to argue their side, this accelerates the conspiracy theories. As far as they are concerned, if the government is doing this, they are "up to something", they are silencing anybody who does not agree with them, a dictatorship is on the way; and being labelled as "conspiracy theorists" makes them all the more convinced they are right. I had social media posts deleted when I pointed out the "dark red weather maps" used now, compared to ones showing similar temperatures when they happened decades previously. It is the not allowing these things to be heard that makes them dangerous, in my view.

If during 2020 and 2021, we had heard from some scientists arguing against lockdown, to balance the debate, I would not be so suspicious of government. But we hardly heard from any; they were not invited to speak, or they would be quickly silenced if they started to say anything against lockdown. You could watch it happen in BBC interviews.

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