Do you think there will ever be a vaccine that will stop the transmission of COVID?

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I was reading something depression about covid. I was someone who took COVID seriously during 2020 and 2021. Took the vaccines and then eased up and eased back to living.

Now I see there's a new COVID wave and it's not right. Flu season is over and it's not right how people are getting sick over and over and lasting for weeks at a time. There's just something not right.

A lot people's reactions are disgusting and negligence passing on their sicknessess.

As someone who eased up over the past 2 years approx I am getting nervous again. I can't afford to get sick again not only that, I likely won't be allowed appropriate time off from work if I was to get ill. I will be expected in work.

I am nervous. It's not right to be so sick all the time.

I was wondering if there will ever be a vaccine that will stop the transmission of the virus?

I think that is only way forward out from really going back to pre COVID living.

Well a start would be to introduce clean, filtered air into schools and public places! Pretty easy and affordable to do but in the U.K we don't bother as best to just 'crack on' with Covid until everyone has Long Covid it seems. I went to hospital the other day (with DD) and no windows open, no air con.

I've had Long Covid which meant no work (and no pay as self employed!) for 18 months, mostly recovered now but it took over 3 years. It is NOT sustainable is it that people just get sick again and again without any treatments and then also risk Long Covid everytime ruining their income and in some cases life. We do have anti-virals of course but because they are expensive nobody gets them. And I am a 'lucky one' who did recover. Many just aren't or are at much reduced capacity.

All in all it's a shambles and yes MORE could be done to educate. If you're ill stay at home and stay out of busy areas or wear a mask, ventilate spaces well / use HEPA filters, offer medication to more than those that are super high risk. Not even sure who that is now as my dad who has cancer just had covid and didn't get any anti-virals which we KNOW reduce the risk of LC.

Re vaccines I don't know. Let's hope so.

@Atissue123

I went to hospital the other day (with DD) and no windows open, no air con.

Sadly, hospitals really havn't learned anything. OH has to go to the local oncology ward twice a month for blood tests, infusions and collect drugs. Every sodding time, he's there in the waiting areas for far longer than is necessary. As per usual, the staff show no regard for appointment times. At one consultants appointment, he had a 9-30 appointment, and going by the standing room only waiting room, so did everyone else. He finally got to see the consultant at 1pm - 3 and a half hours stuck in a cramped unventilated waiting room. No one new came into the waiting room all morning - everyone had been given the same 9-30 appointment!

The waiting areas are cramped, no windows, and usually jam packed full, with everyone sat so close on small plastic chairs they're touching. That's how a hospital oncology dept "looks after" people who have cancer and most will be immunocompromised and extremely clinically vulnerable.

You'd think that medical professionals would be the first to actually want to take precautions especially when they're dealing with vulnerable patients. But apparently not!

No.

Thank you, you too ❤️

Im certainly better than I was yesterday but no energy to do anything and really sore teeth and gums..

I had really odd neurological symptoms too it took me a good year to get back to normal. My MRI was normal though so not MS. I had intense headaches, paralysis on one side of face , loss of sensation down one side of body, extreme light sensitivity then on the side of my face that wasn’t paralysed I developed an uncontrollable twitch one side of my mouth would make like a kiss shape every heart beat. They thought I had a tumour at one point hence MRI.

This was during covid times so before long term issues really understood but there had been research into neurological problems caused by covid since then.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/long-covid-now-looks-like-a-neurological-disease-helping-doctors-to-focus-treatments1/

Probably not. COVID is here to stay.

This article explains why some infections and vaccines produce sterilising immunity (you are immune and can’t become infected and can’t infect others) whereas others only give partial immunity (milder symptoms).

https://www.livescience.com/why-lifelong-immunity.html

It was written in 2020 though so you will have to ignore the overly optimistic conclusion that COVID vaccines might produce sterilising immunity 😂

I’ve just got back from holiday and I have Covid. This is the most ill I’ve ever felt, but I’ve just had a baby and I have a 3 and 4 year old so cannot just lay in bed all day, I just feel so ill 😔 How long did everyone’s recent Covid last?

I doubt it. Covid, like influenza mutates. People at high risk from flu are vaccinated every year and the vaccines are changed to reflect the predicted strains that will circulate the most- a similar approach could potentially be taken with Covid but it may mutate faster.

Someone upthread mentioned antibody resistance- I think you meant anti microbial resistance and it is a massive issue. When bacteria, viruses, fungi and parasites become resistant to treatment then we have a huge problem. The prediction is that globally 10 million people a year will die from anti microbial resistant infections by 2050- that's more people than Cancer. This is why you should always take antibiotics etc as prescribed.

Interesting/ I was hospitalised last year with I thought was a TIA/stroke. I'm going for electro-nerve tests as I keep going numb down one side and have permanently numb fingers on my left hand. They did suggest either Covid m-related or hemiplegic migraine?

Even if they did manage to find a vaccine somehow, the majority of people probably wouldn’t want to take it, so Covid would still be transmitted anyway.

I think it depends. I happily took the first 2 vaccines, the 3rd (booster) I took because I needed it for travel. I haven't and won't have any more as it stands now.
If they came up with a sterilising vaccine that totally stopped you getting it I'd take it. But it would need to have been tested for a few years first before I'd have it I admit.
I think plenty of people would feel the same way. Not everyone though of course.

You're right. We've seriously taken our eyes off the ball where Covid is concerned. It is not a cold and never was.

There are many ways to prevent it but it all boils down to money and the government don't care. Even vaccines are restricted and you have to buy them privately which rules out many people. They have air filtration in parliament.

There's more and more evidence of the long-term damage that Covid causes. We can't pretend SARS away. The best way to protect yourself is to mask in enclosed spaces.

Covid warning as people 'dropping down dead' three years after getting virus (msn.com)

The big trouble here is that they told us categorically this is what the first vaccination did, so people's trust is low (mine included).
I took the first 2 vaccinations but would not have another.

I think I may have it now. Went to
London Saturday

Teeth were
Hurting weds plus
Sore
Throat

Now snotty nose and tight
Chest with
Slight Cough

Think I
May do a test now.

Ffs. It's positive

No because that's literally not possible. Vaccines stop you becoming ill with a disease, or limit the symptoms. I don't even know anyone who tests for Covid, I haven't for about 3 year!

I should have added that masks should be ffp2/ffp3. Surgical masks are useless.

FFP3 masks in the summer heat are unbearable. Even surgical masks can be awful in the heat.
I can't imagine most of the the public wanting to wear FFP3 for hours on end art events in enclosed spaces.

@Possinass @Nowanextraone

But who are ‘they’ as in they told us???

That was never my understanding at all.

My understanding is that different viruses would need different types of vaccines. Vaccines have never been a one size fits all.

A virus that mutates a lot, like flu/Covid needs a vaccine that Keeps up with the mutations.

A virus that doesn’t mutate as much needs a different vaccine and not as regularly.

it would be ridiculous to think that all vaccines should behave the same way otherwise we don’t bother.

Vaccines are different, viruses are different.

It was heavily implied when they announced the vaccine that it would stop transmission/symptoms etc. It was said to be our way out of the pandemic and allow normal life to resume etc. And while life has resumed for most people, it hasn't stopped the amount of covid.
In my experience, (and obviously it's only a small sample), there is no difference in my friends/family between vaccinated and unvaccinated. I've had vaccinated healthy friends who have caught it many times and been hospitalised. And 80 year olds who've had multiple vaccines who have had barely more than a sniffle.
I myself go to many many large events. I'm squished up next to people. I work in dentistry and only wear a surgical mask. Yet I've only had covid once. My friend who is so so careful and still avoid ls crowds has had it 4 times.
I personally think like most viruses, it can affect people differently each time. While vaccines may help a bit, personally for covid I think it's minimal.

And with regards to different vaccines behaving differently yes obviously I know that.
But let's face it, MOST people's experience of vaccines is they had one as a child and it protects them pretty much for life.
Other than flu, which most fit and healthy people don't worry about, what other vaccines don't stop you getting it at least for a few years? You don't hear about thousands of vaccinated people getting measles or mumps. This is most people's experience of vaccines.
So yes. When they said they had a covid vaccine and it would be our way out of the pandemic the majority of the public and going to think great that means it'll stop us getting it etc. i don't think many people would instantly think the vaccine only MIGHT stop you dying and that's it.

You're right, but at least summer is exactly the time when bringing in fresh air from outside is much easier! There's lots that can be done to make places safer.

People who haven't been that bothered about catching covid repeatedly in recent years might not all stay not bothered, especially as the research keeps coming out showing how even mild covid hides all over the body and increases the risk of heart attack and strokes and so on. Clean air and excellent ventilation will make some venues more appealing than others, especially to people who hate wearing masks.

Yeah, that's not happening. The time where most of the public were up for wearing any kind of mask has been and gone. Regardless of season.

I hope they do something. I've had it twice in 18 months. Not had a cold in almost 5 years, flu just once at the millennium. But shitty little covid got me again so I was in bed for three days. It's messed up my running pattern too.

l’ve got really severe long covid after my second infection.

I just can’t believe how it’s ok to catch it again and again. Do we just keep going as the rise of long covid affects more and more? Is this the way forward? Until half the country are disabled?

Its just madness. It’s like no one acknowledges the damage repeat infections do.

At least in the US you can get hold have Paxlovid. Here you can’t get it anywhere.

I switch between thinking

• it will cost too much money to continue this way

and

• we don't care how much it costs, we'll leave for someone else to deal with - at a much higher cost of course