Schools update

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https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2022/03/30/living-with-covid-the-end-of-routine-testing-in-schools-colleges-and-childcare-settings/

Don't test for Covid, and do go to school, but if you do test for Covid and you do indeed have Covid, don't go to school. Except if you feel well then you can go to school, but don't go to school if you have a high temperature. If you tested your temperature. Classic!

DS’s school is closed due to lack of staff, back to remote provision until Easter holidays. Would you care about that @Waxonwaxoff0 if that happened to your DS’s school, and it was because parents didn’t care and were sending their children in sick

I guess you will also be happy to take a covid positive child on a plane?

It's funny isn't it - on the Majorca plane flight thread people are furious that someone would get on a plane and potentially risk passing it on to them, thus ruining their holiday. Yet, here we have posters quite happy to drop their covid positive child off in school potentially leading to disrupting the education and health of others in their class.

It's not just about looking out for 'strangers'. If your child passes it on to their teachers and the school cannot get cover then the school will close. If there are just half a dozen other parents with a similar selfish mindset then the risk goes up even higher - greater viral load equals more chance of getting covid.

@toomuchlaundry

DS’s school is closed due to lack of staff, back to remote provision until Easter holidays. Would you care about that *@Waxonwaxoff0* if that happened to your DS’s school, and it was because parents didn’t care and were sending their children in sick

Again, hypothetical situation that I'd cross if it happens. Hasn't happened at DS's school at any point.

@itrytomakemyway

I guess you will also be happy to take a covid positive child on a plane?

It's funny isn't it - on the Majorca plane flight thread people are furious that someone would get on a plane and potentially risk passing it on to them, thus ruining their holiday. Yet, here we have posters quite happy to drop their covid positive child off in school potentially leading to disrupting the education and health of others in their class.

It's not just about looking out for 'strangers'. If your child passes it on to their teachers and the school cannot get cover then the school will close. If there are just half a dozen other parents with a similar selfish mindset then the risk goes up even higher - greater viral load equals more chance of getting covid.

I won't be testing for Covid, so if DS has it I won't know.

It's funny isn't it - on the Majorca plane flight thread people are furious that someone would get on a plane and potentially risk passing it on to them

There are equally posters who take the more realistic view that people will get exposed to covid regardless.

I think teacher retention, which is already horrendous, is only going to get worse.

the three days thing seems very weird - there's absolutely no science or data to back that up as far as I can see?

I don't want to bang on about long Covid because we're all bored of this by now but my DD was very poorly both times she caught Covid and has been left with long term issues that are absolutely miserable. It's been so, so, so much more than 'just a cold' for us and it's absolutely breaking my heart. Of course we need strategies to live with this but just chucking them back into school when they are definitely still infectious doesn't seem like a very sensible move when there are literally no other mitigations present.

I don’t have any tests anyway so mine will be staying at home if they’re ill, going to school if they’re not. I won’t know what virus is causing their symptoms.

You're tired of putting everyone else above your own family? Unfortunately unless you're going to educate your children yourself then you do have to take their school community into consideration. I'm glad for you that your child never gets ill and long may that continue but from experience I know how very unexpectedly health can change.

@mrshoho

You're tired of putting everyone else above your own family? Unfortunately unless you're going to educate your children yourself then you do have to take their school community into consideration. I'm glad for you that your child never gets ill and long may that continue but from experience I know how very unexpectedly health can change.

Yes. Like I said, DS doesn't really get ill so I won't be sending in an ill child myself. It won't be on me if there are big staff absences, so no guilt there.

Yep due to a virus mine has brain damage. Absolutely fine the day before. Not good now.

Yup, has to be an April Fool's thread. No one can be that ill informed about the consequences of sending a highly infectious condition into a school or plane.

If I don't test my child I will not know if they have covid so it will be ok - odd argument. I don't think I will take that approach to wearing a seat belt or stepping out into the road without looking. If I have the symptoms of covid I will keep testing before going to places where I might be at risk of passing it on to others. It seems the sensible and responsible thing to do.

All the children I know who've had it in the last few weeks have had it mildly. Sadly, I and my colleagues have not been so lucky. I'm on day 11 of my second bout since Christmas and feeling rubbish still. The school have tried to soldier on with all available staff being pulled for cover but numbers have dwindled and dwindled, no supply available, all cover supervisors and TAs now positive and ill and they shut the school on Tuesday with no remote teaching as we simply don't have the staff.

I keep hoping that now we've all had it seemingly at the same time, post Easter will be better.

I hadn't had a single day off in 7yrs until this year. I've had 3 weeks off since January.

@itrytomakemyway

Yup, has to be an April Fool's thread. No one can be that ill informed about the consequences of sending a highly infectious condition into a school or plane.

If I don't test my child I will not know if they have covid so it will be ok - odd argument. I don't think I will take that approach to wearing a seat belt or stepping out into the road without looking. If I have the symptoms of covid I will keep testing before going to places where I might be at risk of passing it on to others. It seems the sensible and responsible thing to do.

And that’s fab, if you can afford to keep buying tests.

@itrytomakemyway

Yup, has to be an April Fool's thread. No one can be that ill informed about the consequences of sending a highly infectious condition into a school or plane.

If I don't test my child I will not know if they have covid so it will be ok - odd argument. I don't think I will take that approach to wearing a seat belt or stepping out into the road without looking. If I have the symptoms of covid I will keep testing before going to places where I might be at risk of passing it on to others. It seems the sensible and responsible thing to do.

Good that you can afford to pay for tests. Many can't.

Good you have a child that you think won’t end up in hospital in they get covid. Many haven’t.

Far cheaper to buy tests than for the knock on costs of a whole class to be shut down for days.

While community levels are as high as they are, I'm not sure schools having different rules will make much difference. My worry is people thinking that disruption will stop because children and staff don't need to isolate. As long as staff are getting ill, in numbers in line with the high infection rate, schools will be disrupted.

@Blogblogblogblog

Good you have a child that you think won’t end up in hospital in they get covid. Many haven’t.

Yes? I don't have that worry, no. I don't wish ill on anyone, but I'm not making life decisions based on what might happen to other people.

@itrytomakemyway

Far cheaper to buy tests than for the knock on costs of a whole class to be shut down for days.

Clearly you aren't having to choose between heating and eating.

"I'm not making life decisions based on what might happen to other people."

But we do, all the time! It's why we don't drink and drive. It's why we look before we cross a road. It is part of being a responsible member of society.

Yes I can't see disruption getting better anytime soon apart apart from the brief Easter holiday reprieve. Add in increased NHS disruption too.

@itrytomakemyway

"I'm not making life decisions based on what might happen to other people."

But we do, all the time! It's why we don't drink and drive. It's why we look before we cross a road. It is part of being a responsible member of society.

Yes, but those things you mentioned don't have a detrimental impact on my own life and my DS's life. Many Covid restrictions did.

@itrytomakemyway

Far cheaper to buy tests than for the knock on costs of a whole class to be shut down for days.

That’s a ‘might’ happen… and the worry of something that ‘might’ happen doesn’t give someone the immediate access to funds to buy tests.

Far cheaper to buy tests than for the knock on costs of a whole class to be shut down for days

You might be in the fortunate position to go out and buy these tests for your family. Unfortunately many people are really struggling to pay for their gas and food bills!

Also, these LTF tests don't actually detect covid until a couple of days later, by which time you've already been infectious...