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Hospital Trusts Still Restricting Visits

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nojudgementhere · 19/02/2022 14:28

Apparently hospital trusts are still going to be banning/limiting visitors because of Covid. Anyone else feeling worried about this and hoping the rules are relaxed soon?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/18/every-hospital-trust-england-limiting-visitors-despite-move/

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Chessie678 · 20/02/2022 00:16

I think it’s easy to say you’d prefer no visitors if you’re in for an elective operation and out a couple of days later. But the impact of no visitors on people staying in hospital for a long time / dementia patients / people who have received a difficult diagnosis/ people who are unable to advocate for themselves for whatever reason has been horrific and often not at all in their best interest. It can be quite difficult to identify these people with a blanket policy so as to allow visiting when really needed.

I know one woman who had to stay in hospital for 4 weeks before her twins were born and several weeks afterwards while they were ill. She saw her husband once during that time for the birth. He then had to leave. She ended up with very severe pnd- it wrecked her first year with her babies. I’m sure it was exacerbated by the lack of visitors.

I know someone else who was left to look after her newborn alone after a very difficult birth and collapsed on the floor and hit her head when she tried to get up for him. It wouldn’t have happened if her husband had been there and there weren’t enough staff to provide enough support.

I have an elderly relative who won’t go for an operation he needs while he can’t have visitors. He’s scared of hospitals anyway and frightened of being alone and having no one to speak on his behalf while he’s recovering from GA.

That’s just a few examples. There have been so many stories in the press of people dying alone. Any patient with dementia or a similar degenerative condition will deteriorate with no social contact from loved ones. I don’t think that these harms are weighed into it when designing these policies.

And given that hospitals have been one of the places with highest transmission rates it’s hardly like the no visitor policy has been wildly successful.

Lifeisforliving1 · 20/02/2022 00:38

My DM is in hospital at the moment. She doesn't cope well without my DF and is a massive worrier. In for something she thought would be minor that is now a scary unknown. She's falling apart which I'm sure would be to a lesser extent if she was allowed even my DF to visit. He would take an lft each day to protect people on the ward.

Topseyt · 20/02/2022 00:40

I wonder if all of those saying that they hope these restrictions continue have experienced a loved one being in hospital confused and feeling abandoned, then dying alone.

This was what happened to my Dad last year. We never got to try and comfort him or say goodbye.

This utter nonsense needs to stop in favour of a more measured and humane approach.

Tabbacous · 20/02/2022 01:06

I think amid staffing shortages where basic care isn't being given on many wards, having no relatives is terrible both practically and emotionally. I find it scary some are in favour of it continuing.

Tabbacous · 20/02/2022 01:06

Relatives or friends or whatever !

BirdOnTheWire · 20/02/2022 11:39

It's hard to see them relaxing visiting rules when self isolation ends.

I've been in hospital a few times including 8 days with no visiting. It was bliss. Friends and family can still drop things off so you can have snacks or drinks or clean clothes brought in.
The worst thing for me about being in hospital is Other People's Visitors. No privacy and noise just when you are feeling ill.

However that's not the case for everyone, particularly the very elderly or those with dementia.

There needs to be a way of arranging visits for this group without compromising the safety of others. Maybe a visiting room?

bringmelaughter · 20/02/2022 11:49

@nojudgementhere

Sorry to hear that *@Mickarooni* and I hope you're feeling a bit better now. 💐It must make communication so difficult if the person in hospital is too unwell to speak on the phone as I'd imagine the staff aren't too keen on relatives calling for updates all the time. I'm totally supportive of testing/masks/visiting hours etc. as obviously reducing transmission is really important, but some of the restrictions seem unecessarily cruel and OTT now.
But testing isn’t going to be happening in the community to any helpful level: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/14/uk-ministers-press-ahead-with-plan-to-wind-down-covid-testing
nojudgementhere · 20/02/2022 12:53

@bringmelaughter - Maybe there could still be rapid testing in place just for hospitals and care homes? It seems crazy that patients, staff and visitors wouldn't be routinely tested in such a high risk environment.

@Chessie678 - An excellent post - thank you. It really highlights some of the problems with banning visitors. I think there are probably lots of people like your elderly relative who are putting off getting help through fear of being cut off from their families.

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bringmelaughter · 20/02/2022 13:25

@nojusgementhere unfortunately the message people are hearing from our government is that the pandemic is over and everyone can live with this. Unfortunately many of the extremely vulnerable can’t live with covid and many don’t have a good immune response to vaccine.

While the message is “it’s over” I think that many people won’t test through choice even to protect the most vulnerable in hospitals.

People in hospital need their family and friends but they also need the risks of getting covid to be minimised. I can’t see how this will be best managed unless people start accepting that they have a responsibility to make adjustments for the most vulnerable.

beckypv · 20/02/2022 15:37

@BirdOnTheWire that is exactly what I think. Other people groups of visitors (and your own sometimes😂) definitely disturb the peace.

However I also completely agree that a visitor is vital for those that are elderly or lonely and a way of enabling that as we move forward is essential.

confuseddotcom1234 · 20/02/2022 16:55

There needs to be some changes, my grandmother died in hospital last November and of her 3 children only one was allowed to visit for the week she was in which was hard on the two that couldn't and the one that could. Fortunately when they knew she hadn't long left they did allow all 3 children in plus two spouses. This was so tough on the whole family. I also had a baby during covid in a trust that has been so strict so did scans alone, husband left couple of hours after baby was born and wasn't allowed back for nearly 24 hours for a couple of hours. Hard on both of us but actually harder for my husband I feel as he didn't get to bond with his son in those early days.

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