Will you send your DC to school if they're open for keyworkers only?

[BlowDryRat]

Hopefully this won't happen but if it does (probably with hours' notice like last Jan )...

DH and I both qualified as keyworkers (medical supplies) for all the previous lockdowns. We could WFH though so kept the DC at home so they weren't taking up spaces really needed by others and to minimise the risk to the school staff. The DC got on with it but both struggled socially and DD in particular fell very behind academically.

Now that everyone who wants a vaccine has had at least 2, if there's another partial school closure I'll be prioritising my DC and sending them in.

What are you planning to do?

[quote Covidworries]@Comedycook
Is a child abandoned outside a building a well looked after child?[/quote]
You call it that. I call it taking them to school.

Social services are massively overstretched...I cannot believe they would take a child into care because their parent takes them to school

[quote Covidworries]@comedycook
Would you drop child off for an inset day and expect them to be educated?
How about on good friday?
If you left a child outside of school when school isnt open for them that is abandament. So yes SS would be involved[/quote]
No because school is closed- if the school is physically open take your kids to it- otherwise it’s just discrimination!

Yes I will be putting my kids in school and I would wholeheartedly support every parent in their efforts to get their children in to school regardless of their parents' jobs.

Mass exclusion of children from school cannot be tolerated again.

@Comedycook

Social services are massively overstretched...I cannot believe they would take a child into care because their parent takes them to school

No one said about taking them into care, that’s not what social do. However would a school report you for just dumping your child unattended outside school? Yes. We have when children have been left too early because the parents didn’t put them in wrap around care and they are v. young. It’s a safeguarding issue. What SS do is up to them.

I'm a keyworker now so will be sending ds in when I'm working. I'm NHS staff. Last lock down I wasn't so he stayed at home but I won't be able to work from home this time. I'm also a single parent now so have nobody else to look after ds when I'm working. I only work 3 days a week though so ds will be staying at home on the days I'm not working if schools are told to close.

A school that isnt open. Has key worker provision for parents who have key jobs, to provide child care and for vunerable children.
If you fit those catorgories you can apply for a child care place.
If you dont need or are not eligable for a place then the child care slot isnt available to your child.

Education is provided remotely for all others.

So leaving a child at a building that is not expecting them is abandoment.
Would you drop at any random school?

@DumplingsAndStew

"Waaaaah, someone has something I don't have"

Yes, your children are entitled to receive an education. You know who's responsible for seeing they get one? You.

Since when? I’m responsible for getting them to their place of education, I’m not responsible / qualified to educate

A school that isnt open. Has key worker provision for parents who have key jobs, to provide child care and for vunerable children
If you fit those catorgories you can apply for a child care place.
If you dont need or are not eligable for a place then the child care slot isnt available to your child.

Education is provided remotely for all others

And that is no longer acceptable to me.

@Covidworries both DH and I are key workers but as we were wfh our school denied us a place.

The only other form of impactful direct action I can think of is if parents boycott home learning all together and refuse to engage. Watch how quickly schools reopen if no one submits anything.

March 2020 only a few schools here run key worker placements and children went to the nearest school running key worker provision which wasnt always the childs school. So dropping child at school which may or may not have key worker provision or may not even knoq you child. NUTS

@Covidworries

A school that isnt open. Has key worker provision for parents who have key jobs, to provide child care and for vunerable children. If you fit those catorgories you can apply for a child care place. If you dont need or are not eligable for a place then the child care slot isnt available to your child.

Education is provided remotely for all others.

So leaving a child at a building that is not expecting them is abandoment.
Would you drop at any random school?

School is not just childcare. Not even if they are doing the same remote learning as at home. It provides structure, a suitable working environment, companionship. Our school took all students who needed to be there, including year 11s last year.

Has key worker provision for parents who have key jobs such bullshit- how many key workers on this thread have admitted to wfh, if you worked from home your child should have been at home, I don’t care whether public or private sector. The absurdity of that key worker list never fails to amuse me!

Last time there was a lock down (Jan -March) there were so many kids in our school it might as well have just been open.

Mine are going, they need interaction with peers as cahms involvement from last lockdown

This is a shit show, and I am beyond fucked off that it might be happening all over again while Boris party hard shit for brains rolls along untouchable.

If it looks as if 90% of classrooms will be full, the government will just adjust the ruling so that in school provision is only provided if both parents are NHS key worker (or some other state regulated variable). Why would the government close schools (and get the subsequent grief from the media and voters) if the reason for closing schools (to stop transmission) is negated by full classes turning up anyway?

I am fairly certain schools will be kept open as the government doesn’t really care about keeping school staff and children safe, despite other workers being told to work from home if they can. But, as staff catch Covid, you will end up supervising children at home, regardless of whether you are genuine frontline key workers or those with truly vulnerable children or just ‘key workers’ who need to pay a mortgage or those with sad children who are missing their friends. That will impact on the running of country’s infrastructure too, so the next few months are going to get very interesting.

[quote Hollyhead]@Covidworries both DH and I are key workers but as we were wfh our school denied us a place.

The only other form of impactful direct action I can think of is if parents boycott home learning all together and refuse to engage. Watch how quickly schools reopen if no one submits anything.[/quote]
Tbh I doubt this would change anything. There’d need to be more re getting dc into school.

@comedycook.

So lots of things in life are unecceptable to me. But there are ways of challenging these or sometimes just accepting what is in life.
But i cant decide that paying for food is uneceptable and just walk out of asda with my shopping and not paying

@Covidworries

A school that isnt open. Has key worker provision for parents who have key jobs, to provide child care and for vunerable children. If you fit those catorgories you can apply for a child care place. If you dont need or are not eligable for a place then the child care slot isnt available to your child.

Education is provided remotely for all others.

So leaving a child at a building that is not expecting them is abandoment.
Would you drop at any random school?

It's not a childcare place, DS got taught properly at school by his regular teacher.

Any job that puts a roof over people's heads and food on the table is an essential job.

Yes I’m not a Key worker but will be sending my daughter, school offer to have her in as she has an ehcp, they happily accommodate my other children as well even though they don’t.

No, we are both keyworkers but while one of us can work from home we will keep them home. One is in Y6 so due to do SATS and the other is in a GCSE year but the teaching would be no different in school or at home.

Employers need to be directed to not expect full productivity from their staff.

My previous boss was an arse. Gave me a below average performance appraisal even though I worked v hard, kept clients happy and nearly had a breakdown. I didn’t go the extra mile. Ffs . I have changed jobs. Employers need to be told to lay off parents who are homeschooling and not discriminate. It’s really not fair. Particularly those with young children who need constant supervision.

Yes.

I didn't before x 2 because I work from home.

But I am incredibly busy at work and I am classed as an essential worker.

DH is an essential worker, worker out of home. Due to circumstances, he is doing a lot of overtime (it's a critical role and it means it's really non negotiable and he has no choice).

We simply cannot cope with homeschooling this time, especially when our youngest is Y2 and his year group have faced disruption every year they have been at school.

@DumplingsAndStew

I think they need to be much more strict on the criteria for having children in school if there's a lockdown. Sending to school should be a final resort, if there is no alternative.

For the first time, yes, I would be intending to send my child into high school as they are vulnerable. Unfortunately, I don't think this is something my eldest's college offers.

Easy to say if your child would have a place.