Just a moan about DS school

[Twounderfive83]

DH has tested positive. DS (age 5) and I are negative.

His school has asked not to send children in when there’s a positive case in the house. So no school for 10 days for DS.

I understand the caution, he’s more likely to catch it from a member of the household and pass it round than anywhere else.

But it’s not the guidance. School have just created this policy.

@MiniatureHotdog

The school is going against the guidance, I'd just send him in.

This I think. I'd lft and if negative send him in. Schools shouldn't be able to just make the rules up. And DC have missed out on so much already.

And so is this.

Government guidance is to do a PCR and then return to school however in some areas with higher numbers PHE are saying people shouldn’t attend school if there is a positive household member. In also think it depends on how well that person is able to isolate from everyone else at home.

If it spreads through the staff then year groups or potentially the whole school may have close. Staff, pupils and family of the pupils maybe very vulnerable.

I'd support the policy if there was sufficient support in place for isolating families - but there's not.

I'm a single mum with 2 of 3 DCs currently isolating. Dc3 got ill on day 9 of dc1's isolation. No guarantee that dc2 and I won't follow suit and make it 20-30 days of isolating with young children. No eligibility for the support payment if you can work from home, but it's hard enough to WFH with even one primary school child and a forgiving boss, with more than one or my child with SEN it is impossible.

I did everything 'right' through the lockdowns and got made redundant for it. Now I'm out of leave at my new job, out of patience and doing my best by testing with lfts every day and PCR at any sign of symptoms, but that's it. People who want to judge others for it, need to summon up some more empathy or put vocal support behind a proper solution.

@Isawthathaggis

Our school is also making up random rules. Now we have to get proof of the children’s negative PCR’s before they will allow them in the class. TBF to the school the teacher when down with it and it was spreading like wildfire through the class. They asked parents to organise PCR’s and some didn’t. Not surprisingly those were the children who all had symptomless Covid.

Would your school accept daily testing instead?
Are they providing adequate work for your ds?

Doesn't sound in the least bit random.

Negative PCR = school attendance.

Very straightforward actually.

DS has just had 2 weeks remote learning has his year group was closed due to so many cases. Schools are struggling

Some LAs have made this a rule.

My daughter caught it from a sibling with positive case at home and now I have long Covid and my husband is now suspected to have it too. It’s not easy at all for or our kids. It could have been avoided.

There aren’t any supply teachers left in our area so if the teacher gets it the whole class may have to close anyway.

Schools aren’t making up random rules, if a school has reached the benchmark for extra mitigation’s then PHE will have advised them to implement those measures. If doesn’t matter what national guidance is, local PHE will advise on what is best for each individual school.

Schools aren’t making up random rules

How do you know?

Working in a school I really wish ours would do this too. Crazy that members of a household who have a positive case are allowed to freely go about their business. Especially young kids who you absolutely cannot distance from. It could also be local official advice if there is a high number of cases in your area

Also your schools policy could well keep them open in the long run. At ours if things continue as they are I expect we'll be closed. We ran with no management on Friday and soon there won't be enough staff to operate.

It’s good that the school are asking this.
The government guidance is clearly not about health as they seem quite happy for potentially infected people to carry on out and about as normal infecting others just because they have had the injections, yet somebody who can be completely healthy isn’t allowed out just because they haven’t had the injections.

I’d much rather the government guidance was to do with peoples health rather than punishing some people.

@OverTheRubicon

I'd support the policy if there was sufficient support in place for isolating families - but there's not.

I'm a single mum with 2 of 3 DCs currently isolating. Dc3 got ill on day 9 of dc1's isolation. No guarantee that dc2 and I won't follow suit and make it 20-30 days of isolating with young children. No eligibility for the support payment if you can work from home, but it's hard enough to WFH with even one primary school child and a forgiving boss, with more than one or my child with SEN it is impossible.

I did everything 'right' through the lockdowns and got made redundant for it. Now I'm out of leave at my new job, out of patience and doing my best by testing with lfts every day and PCR at any sign of symptoms, but that's it. People who want to judge others for it, need to summon up some more empathy or put vocal support behind a proper solution.

Absofuckinglutely.

I'd have the option of being able to keep mine off in this situation without any real impact on the family job and finance situation. Plenty wouldn't, and that's luck more than it is anything else. When there are likely millions of parents in this situation, bleating about selfishness has more than a touch of the Marie Antoinettes.

@OverTheRubicon

I'd support the policy if there was sufficient support in place for isolating families - but there's not.

I'm a single mum with 2 of 3 DCs currently isolating. Dc3 got ill on day 9 of dc1's isolation. No guarantee that dc2 and I won't follow suit and make it 20-30 days of isolating with young children. No eligibility for the support payment if you can work from home, but it's hard enough to WFH with even one primary school child and a forgiving boss, with more than one or my child with SEN it is impossible.

I did everything 'right' through the lockdowns and got made redundant for it. Now I'm out of leave at my new job, out of patience and doing my best by testing with lfts every day and PCR at any sign of symptoms, but that's it. People who want to judge others for it, need to summon up some more empathy or put vocal support behind a proper solution.

I don't disagree with you... but actually I feel this means there should be even more impetus on those of us that can keep kids home in this situation to do so. The OP doesn't mention any work issues, so who knows. I'm a SAHM so we are all isolating if there's a positive case in the house despite what the guidance is. Perhaps if those who could, did, we wouldn't have quite such a problem in schools just now.

It’s against the guidance and against what PHE are telling schools to do.
For this very reason I wouldn’t ever have told them, but I would test child with lateral flows.

@Silverswirl actually it’s not - phe (now the health security agency) is advising on a case by case basis and in our primary, due to the number of cases and outbreaks, parents are being asked not to send dc to school if a household member is positive and absence is recorded as home schooling for those days. I work in healthcare and my role links with the HSA (phe) so I know this from them direct as well as our head teacher.

It’s hard for parents but makes sense.

@shouldistop

Schools aren’t making up random rules

How do you know?

Dh works in a college. Local PHEs set a percentage of cases whereby classes/year groups/the whole school even has to close. They will often advise schools that household members of positive cases have to stay away.

I’d contact your regional schools commissioner op. Schools shouldn’t be going against direct government guidance.

DH is head at a free school and he suspects union reps in some schools are agitating for tougher roles which weak heads are going along with.

DC have missed enough school as it is- unless they test positive, they should be in school.

In terms of total days lost from school (all kids and teachers), surely isolation of household contacts would have resulted in less?

@greenlakes, it is nothing to do with unions, it is the local PHE that tells schools what to do.

@Comefromaway I understand that but how do you know some schools aren't just setting their own rules. That's what op thinks the school has done. If it was PHE advice then I'm sure the school would have said that.

I’d check re PHE v school

There was another thread on here where the Head backtracked on being asked