Children told to wait 3 months before having vacc if they've had covid

[Changemusthappen]

This news hit yesterday and I'm posting for awareness more than anything else.

However I am frustrated and annoyed with how the government have dealt with the role out of the vacc to children. Surely they realised that it would rip through schools in autumn? So now we are in a situation where many will have to wait and many havent waited that should have done. Given children are, evidently, mostly asymptomatic, who knows who should have the vacc.

This is especially frustrating for those caught up in the testing cockup, many of whom, like me, have waited the 28 days before agreeing to the jab and now find we shoud have waited longer to be safe.

DH had myocarditis after his first jab, has his second on Saturday, just over a month after we had covid. I'm worried anyway and this has made it worse 😬

@QuestionableDanceMoves

Sorry if this is me being somewhat dim but is this just a suggestion or is it the rule now? DS had covid early October and has his vaccine booked for Saturday. Should I be cancelling it? Will he be turned away? I rang 119 and they didn’t know which isn’t helpful at all

He will be turned away.

Sorry, should have said your best bet is to rebook if for twelve weeks after his symptoms started/positive test.

Whaaat? I just booked my DDs yesterday! Will have to cancel now. No one has phoned me to cancel it. When the age range for astra zeneca jab changed I was phoned the same day by my GP to reebok my vaccine for pfizer. Why aren't OUR CHILDREN being kept safe?!

@Charliealphatangorara

Whaaat? I just booked my DDs yesterday! Will have to cancel now. No one has phoned me to cancel it. When the age range for astra zeneca jab changed I was phoned the same day by my GP to reebok my vaccine for pfizer. Why aren't OUR CHILDREN being kept safe?!

I guess they would say they’re keeping them safer by extending the wait time to reduce the myocarditis risk.

The admin seems very dodgy though.

@Hotpinkangel19

DH had myocarditis after his first jab, has his second on Saturday, just over a month after we had covid. I'm worried anyway and this has made it worse 😬

He had myocarditis after his first jab and he's still getting a second?! I hope very much that he'll be fine but I'm bemused that a doctor recommended this

@QuestionableDanceMoves

Sorry if this is me being somewhat dim but is this just a suggestion or is it the rule now? DS had covid early October and has his vaccine booked for Saturday. Should I be cancelling it? Will he be turned away? I rang 119 and they didn’t know which isn’t helpful at all

Even if it were only a suggestion, why would you want to ignore the advice designed to reduce the risk of myocarditis?

@Hotpinkangel19 is the covid vaccine don’t you know. Trumps pretty much everything and anything, even the safely and welfare of our kids.

Yeah I'm a bit gutted. Mine will have to wait until Feb now for his.

I cancelled my children's vaccine today. New guidelines is test day 5 after contact (which is today) and I would never forgive myself if it came back positive and they'd had the vaccine as well

My one son, 15, had Covid last year. My other, 15, in September.

Due to the delays and cancelled appointments in school, neither has had a vaccination.

I wasn't in a rush, but this backs my decision.
I do want them vaccinated, especially as they are in Y11 and I want to minimise disruption.

@Hotpinkangel19

DH had myocarditis after his first jab, has his second on Saturday, just over a month after we had covid. I'm worried anyway and this has made it worse 😬

I think I would talk to a doctor about this. Surely there is no big hurry for him to have the vaccine right now. Maybe he could do an antibody test instead? (Not that they are the be all and end all of immunity.)

My mind is blown away by parents who think that it makes sense to vaccinate their kids 4 weeks post having Covid !?! 🤯 are you guys seriously worried that they are going to catch it again and get really poorly 4 weeks after infection!? If not, then why on earth are you choosing to vaccinate so soon after natural infection?
Someone explain to me how that makes sense?

@SoOvethis

My mind is blown away by parents who think that it makes sense to vaccinate their kids 4 weeks post having Covid !?! 🤯 are you guys seriously worried that they are going to catch it again and get really poorly 4 weeks after infection!? If not, then why on earth are you choosing to vaccinate so soon after natural infection? Someone explain to me how that makes sense?

This is what experts said. Criticising people for following the medical advice at that time is pretty off in my view.

@SoOvethis

My mind is blown away by parents who think that it makes sense to vaccinate their kids 4 weeks post having Covid !?! 🤯 are you guys seriously worried that they are going to catch it again and get really poorly 4 weeks after infection!? If not, then why on earth are you choosing to vaccinate so soon after natural infection? Someone explain to me how that makes sense?

Tbh, this is why we decided to wait. We knew ds had natural immunity and decided not to vaccinate during the 6 months post covid.

We all had Covid in October so I’m not going to have my booster which is due now and I wasn’t going to let the DCs have it anyway at the moment as we will surely have antibodies for three months at least. Plus the wait between 1 and 2 jabs is 12 weeks so it makes sense to wait that amount of time after natural infection. I would rather have my booster when my antibodies are waning and the same for my DCs (if they have it at all).

This was updated in the green book 15th November, got informed midway through a vaccination clinic.

On the 3rd September 2021 the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation announced they were not recommending the Pfizer Covid-19 injection be offered to all children over the age of 12.

www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advice-on-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15

The Health Protection Regulations 2009 place a duty on the Secretary of State for Health in England to ensure that the recommendations of JCVI are implemented. The government ignored the JVCIs recommendation and instead sought out the advice of Whitty and the other chief medical officers.

The real concern here is not the timing of the booster but the fact that the government is not following the scientific advise. The JCVI do not recommend these vaccines at all for children.

I’m not sure what happened to follow the science.

Norway don’t recommend the vaccine for 12-15 year olds who’ve had the virus. They consider them immune. Since September they have been offering a single dose to those who haven’t been infected.

Interesting how different counties have different policies.

www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-programme/coronavirus-vaccine/#vaccination-of-children-and-adolescents

Countries*

@gamerchick

Yeah I'm a bit gutted. Mine will have to wait until Feb now for his.

What are you gutted for? Surely his natural immunity will carry him through til then anyway? Why would you want him to have a medical procedure that's being advised against by professionals? Amazes me how some people only listen to the things they want to hear and ignore anything that doesn't suit

@Hotpinkangel19

DH had myocarditis after his first jab, has his second on Saturday, just over a month after we had covid. I'm worried anyway and this has made it worse 😬

My goodness, he's brave.

My children are not vaccinated and are very healthy. They will not be having the shot either. We shall continue to test on a regular basis, plus wear our masks. I refuse to give in to the hysteria.

@Changemusthappen

This news hit yesterday and I'm posting for awareness more than anything else.

However I am frustrated and annoyed with how the government have dealt with the role out of the vacc to children. Surely they realised that it would rip through schools in autumn? So now we are in a situation where many will have to wait and many havent waited that should have done. Given children are, evidently, mostly asymptomatic, who knows who should have the vacc.

This is especially frustrating for those caught up in the testing cockup, many of whom, like me, have waited the 28 days before agreeing to the jab and now find we shoud have waited longer to be safe.

This doesn't make any sense. You are worried about covid spreading through schools because pupils aren't vaccinated but you must know by now that the vaccine doesn't stop infection or spread. I know quite a few people who have had covid after having both vaccines.

There are also a lot of studies now showing that getting covid gives very thorough immunity which might be lifelong. Why would you risk giving a child a vaccine against something which they have either had already (and therefore acquired robust immunity from) or mostly either have asymptomatic or mild symptoms from (when taking the vaccine could cause myocarditis - Sweden has stopped giving teens the Moderna vaccine because of this). Why risk potentially giving myocarditis to children who have already had covid?

@Phyllobates

My children are not vaccinated and are very healthy. They will not be having the shot either. We shall continue to test on a regular basis, plus wear our masks. I refuse to give in to the hysteria.

It's an offer. The benefits of vaccinating teens have been outlined, alongside the CMO stating it's not clear cut and will be an individual decision for every family. Not seeing the hysteria personally.

We do tend to give vaccines as a preventative to health people though.