Ds developed myocarditis after vaccine

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He's 18 and had his first vaccine (Oxford) back in March ( not in uk) developed chest aches/pain hours after first vaccine that continued for weeks on and off most days for him, was eventually put on anti inflammatory medication for a week which solved it and got him checked out by a cardiologist and so he went on to have his second vaccine with no issues.
He's now months on complaining of slight achy chest pains on and off again and I'm just seeing if you know anyone that got myocarditis after one of the vaccines?
How common is this?

Why did he have the Oxford not Pfizer? At his age he would’ve been eligible for Pfizer surely?

It says OP is not in the UK and he had the first vaccine back in March.

Surely the second vaccine would have been May/June time.

Surely very unlikely it's myocarditis from the second vaccine at this stage. ??

@Rapunzelsplait he had the first vaccine in March and the second one mid June

Do you mind me asking why he had the first vaccine in March? If he’s 18? Does he have underlying health conditions? What country are you in?

People (including children) can get heart/chest pain due to stress and/or inflammation in the cartliage between their rib cages. He might also have back issues which can present as chest pain. Worth getting it checked out but I think it could potentially be other things other than myocarditis.

Myocarditis following the Pfizer vaccine is incredibly rare

≈12.6 cases per million doses of second-dose mRNA vaccine among individuals 12 to 39 years of age.

It is by far most common that this comes on in days afterwards, so it seems the OP’s ds is in an even rarer category.

Further, it is thought to be less common still with AZ. Even rarer still

I am surprised that a cardiologist faced with a young and healthy man with chest pains would confidently record and report a case of vaccine-induced myocarditis with a normal ECG , not request a follow up MRI but yet…. tell the patient to go on to have their second dose!

Sorry, I find this all very INcredible.

I’m not saying this didn’t happen but it is very logical to be sceptical of these types of posts.

OP, if your son really has vaccine-induced myocarditis I hope he makes a full recovery.

LikeMRex and leafy I find the effect of these threads and the antivaxxer comments they produce is very damaging.

OP I should also say please get your DS checked out by another cardiologist as it is much more likely his chest pains are due to something else and it definitely needs to get sorted out.

I feel sceptical because after having a serious, rare adverse effect of vaccine, drs and consultants have no worry about getting second shot. That sounds very wrong if true.

@leafyygreens thanks for the lecture. I feel so much more informed.... And our kids don't need vaccinated for a virus which, in the vast majority of cases, they will survive.

Not much knowledge about the vaccine induced kind, but I got it after a viral infection years ago(I believe it’s worse to get it from a virus than a vaccine if my cardiologist is to be believed as it was something I asked about before my jab. But what I wanted to say was, I actually still get pain now from having it in the past. Do get him checked though to be safe. Just my experience was I had got long lasting pain. Never severe though as it was at the start just aches. Been scanned and checked frequently as I was also left with an arrhythmia from the viral infection at the time and it never actually came back but they said I have an irritated area there which dosent need anything done with it so I’m happy to know that.

@Mojoj

Why are so many people determined to disbelieve this OP? Myocarditis is a known side effect of the vaccine in young people. FWIW, I am very glad that my 16 year old has opted not to be vaccinated. He's already had Covid and is fit and healthy. Why risk it? Young people have a teeny, tiny risk of becoming seriously ill. They should be donating the vaccines to countries which are on the knees due to lack of vaccines.

Because people on here refuse to accept that you can choose to not have the vaccine and yet still be a good and sane person.

@Kittyswhiskers he had the first vaccine in March as he is in his first year doing a nursing course and needed it before he could go on placement the following month, he has asthma but no other underlying conditions hth

Mojoj

“@leafyygreens thanks for the lecture. I feel so much more informed...smile. And our kids don't need vaccinated for a virus which, in the vast majority of cases, they will survive.”

The likelihood a teen will become seriously ill or die from covid is very very small, it’s true.

But the likelihood they will have any serious and long lasting side effects from the vaccines is many times lower. It is minuscule in fact.

So then you can’t blame people from pointing this out!

[quote Mojoj]@leafyygreens thanks for the lecture. I feel so much more informed.... And our kids don't need vaccinated for a virus which, in the vast majority of cases, they will survive.[/quote]
What do you know that the JCVI, CHMP, EMCA and all other public health bodies advising Western countries don't?

As I said, they advice offering the vaccine to 16-18 year olds after reviewing all available evidence. They are convinced the benefits outweigh the risks. It's their choice whether to take up this offer.

My perfectly healthy 16 year old cousin got it after being infected with covid. She was hospitalised twice over a 2 week period. Is there a chance your son had covid prior to the vaccine?

@leafyygreens

"It is exhausting when threads leads to comments like these (both for the OP who's asking for advice, and for anyone else tired of the anti-vax narrative)."

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In May, the WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus called the prioritisation of low-risk groups, such as children, in rich countries a "moral catastrophe".
He said: "I understand why some countries want to vaccinate their children and adolescents, but right now I urge them to reconsider and to instead donate vaccines to COVAX."

Many countries are struggling to control the spread of the virus with limited vaccine supply. Less than 30% of the population in Paraguay, Colombia and Peru have received even one dose and are recording some of the highest rates of COVID deaths.

Based on the above and your previous statement would you also describe the head of the WHO as an "anti vaxxer"

What I find tiresome is that you view opinions such as my child is at a low risk from Covid as "irrelevant" and that any viewpoint that does not fit your narrative is dismissed as an anti vaxxer.

[quote 1dayatatime]@leafyygreens

"It is exhausting when threads leads to comments like these (both for the OP who's asking for advice, and for anyone else tired of the anti-vax narrative)."

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In May, the WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus called the prioritisation of low-risk groups, such as children, in rich countries a "moral catastrophe".
He said: "I understand why some countries want to vaccinate their children and adolescents, but right now I urge them to reconsider and to instead donate vaccines to COVAX."

Many countries are struggling to control the spread of the virus with limited vaccine supply. Less than 30% of the population in Paraguay, Colombia and Peru have received even one dose and are recording some of the highest rates of COVID deaths.

Based on the above and your previous statement would you also describe the head of the WHO as an "anti vaxxer"

What I find tiresome is that you view opinions such as my child is at a low risk from Covid as "irrelevant" and that any viewpoint that does not fit your narrative is dismissed as an anti vaxxer.[/quote]
You've cropped out 90% of my post in an attempt to make it something it's not. At no point have I said any of these things make someone an "anti-vaxxer" and I keep re-iterating it is everyone's right to choose, it is justifying this choice with misinformation that is exhausting. My reference to the false dichotomy of vaccinating children versus donating them was an entirely separate point.

But given that on other threads you're claiming that you're "analysing data" to show vaccines aren't stopping death or illness, these kinds of leaps of logic seem pretty in line with your thinking?

@1dayatatime

"What I find tiresome is that you view opinions such as my child is at a low risk from Covid as "irrelevant" and that any viewpoint that does not fit your narrative is dismissed as an anti vaxxer."

And again not what I said at all (not least this is your first post on the thread so not sure how you could think my reply was to you).

In response to this claim by a pp:
"Young people have a teeny, tiny risk of becoming seriously ill. "

I said:
The JCVI, CHMP, EMCA and pretty much all other public health bodies in the Western world have advised that the 16-17 age group be offered the vaccine. Your assessment about people this age having a "teeny tiny risk of becoming seriously" ill is irrelevant. There's a number of other factors that were considered, and a huge amount of data analysed, before this decision was come to.

Because people on here refuse to accept that you can choose to not have the vaccine and yet still be a good and sane person.

I'm sure you can be and thinking that we shouldn't be vaxxing younger people here so that the vaccines can go to more vulnerable people is fine. Asking 'why risk it?' on a thread regards to myocarditis and covid vaccines would suggest that either you aren't well informed or your ability to make risk/benefit decision making is perhaps a bit questionable.

In the OP's case I'd be a bit worried that the focus on the vaccine might be masking something else.

I had myocarditis after a vaccination. Still lingering months later. An mri has been important for diagnosis and treatment.

pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/ryct.2021210199 “A previously healthy 16-year-old female patient experienced chest pain 2 days after the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. Workup revealed elevated high-sensitivity cardiac troponin T level and electrocardiographic abnormalities, prompting hospitalization with diagnosis of myocarditis. Peak high-sensitivity cardiac troponin T level was 3492 pg/mL (reference range, 0–19 pg/mL); three echocardiograms were normal. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug therapy resulted in symptomatic improvement. Cardiac MRI performed 6 weeks after hospitalization revealed normal biventricular function and no myocardial edema. Late gadolinium enhancement (LGE) imaging showed subepicardial LGE of the basal inferolateral and inferior walls extending to the midventricular anterolateral, inferolateral, and inferior walls and apical lateral wall (Figure). Recent reports raise concern for acute myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination (1–3); however, definite proof about the direct link between COVID-19 vaccine and myocarditis is still pending. Although long-term implications are unclear, the extensive LGE in this case seen well past resolution of acute symptoms raises concern for ventricular arrhythmia, future diastolic dysfunction, and other sequelae. Further evaluation of patients after symptomatic recovery should be considered given unknown natural history.“

Hi how is everyone going I’d like some update if possible
I had phizer vaccine in my
pregnancy I’m in the Uk by the way and tgem o had the second one 3 days after having my baby and I had chest pins and palpitations a few hours later 2 days later I went for an mri and it was clear I had palpitations on an off for three months after that roughly them I had nothink for about 3 months and now the pains have started the last 6 weeks or so I’ve had an ecg and full blood count now I’m waiting to do a whole week tracking my heart I’ve not been able to relax since this has happened it’s so horrible and scary x

It's not normal the way certain posters infect these threads about potential side effects of the vaccines. The way they post is not normal, almost like paid forum monitors to counteract any possible negative aspersions relating to the vaccines.

This lady has come on for advice about serious effects her son is suffering, and to find others who may have suffered similar (there are many such people), not to be lectured by Pfizer's paid 'fact checkers' or devout followers of the maniacal alt sage.