The teacher who died just after Christmas.

[Breastfeedingworries]

Good morning all,

Not sure if if this was posted about at the time as I didn’t see the thread.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-family-of-teacher-who-died-with-coronavirus-say-school-staff-must-be-priority-for-vaccination-12195441

Why aren’t we vaccinating teachers? Is there a petition online?

Can we as a MN massive do something’s about this.

[hellsbells99]

I would like to see asthmatics being put back into group 6.

[Skipsurvey]

bus drivers also get covid, who is calling for them to be prioritised?

it is a very sad story op

[Skipsurvey]

@hellsbells99
why would you like asthmatics put back in group 6?
they have obviously discovered they dont need to be

[Skipsurvey]

when i recently discovered asthmatics were no longer in group 6 I was relieved that I was no longer considered a priority, no more at risk

[Viviennemary]

I can't see any reason why teachers need to be vaccinated before anybody else. A bus driver died of Covid quite early on. And I suspect others have too. There is no reason whatsoever teachers should get priority. It isn't a z question of who shouts the loudest. Thank goodness.

[converseandjeans]

The thing is you could regularly test & vaccinate teachers. But if schools open up the issue isn't really that teachers might catch covid - rather the students are sat so close to each other that they pass it on amongst themselves & this then gets taken home. So personally I think students should be vaccinated same time. Many of the students are asymptotic so don't even know they're passing it on.

[bluebluezoo]

bus drivers also get covid, who is calling for them to be prioritised?

In the first wave the death rate of TFL staff was far higher than any other profession, including NHS workers.

[aharddaysnight]

I would definitely have de-prioritized non-frontline/public-facing NHS staff. A close family member (mid-forties, no health conditions) who is working at home for the NHS was sent an email link to pick a vaccination slot and she is having it next week. Surely it would have been possible for managers to tick a box to say whether each member of staff was public-facing or not?

I am not sure which other professions should be prioritized, once the over 70s and vulnerable were completed. Teachers, prison staff and police officers spring to mind, but what about factory workers, retail staff, or bus/taxi drivers? I don't know who is now at the most risk.

[MrsBobDylan]

This isn't relevant to the discussion, but it is so sad that someone young and fit like this teacher could die from Covid. His family must be in shock.

[Radio4Rocks]

The reason some say teachers should have priority is because they, unlike almost all other occupations, are not allowed to wear PPE at work or socially distance.

[Crakeandoryx]

Aharddaysnight. I agree 100%. I know of numerous homeworking, none risk workers who have been vaccinated yet though of high risk of death or exposed to high viral load are still waiting. It boils my piss.

[saraclara]

@bluebluezoo

bus drivers also get covid, who is calling for them to be prioritised?

In the first wave the death rate of TFL staff was far higher than any other profession, including NHS workers.

Yep. My brother is a bus driver. But lessons were learned and he now drives inside a plastic compartment, can wear a mask, and all his passengers have to as well.

Teachers have had no such changes to their environment, and remain as vulnerable as they did the first time around.

[Fieldofyellowflowers]

I agree that phase 1 should not include teachers below a certain age and without underlying health issues.

I do hope that we get offered it in phase 2 though.

[PastMyBestBeforeDate]

Retired over 65s, they dont NEED to leave their house.
Plenty do though. Not all over 65s are retired. Not all have someone to do their shopping. Some might even have children in school.

[ChristmasinJune]

[quote Mumski45]@N0Sl33p I am NHS staff wfh in a finance role. I am not prioritised and will take my turn in my age group with everyone else. Any nhs non hospital based staff currently getting the vaccine will most likely be left overs. There needs to be better co-ordination of this to ensure leftovers are used on priority groups.

I will not be signing any petition because I don't believe that vaccinating healthy teachers in priority to at risk categories will help open schools sooner.

Vaccinated teachers can still spread the virus as can children who will most likely not get ill but will go home to more at risk family. Which one is most likely to end up in hospital?

I think it is likely that the government will prioritise certain occupations in phase 2 but it won't make any difference to the opening of schools.

[/quote]
No, they're not left overs because that would be a last minute Emergancy slot. My family members were contacted and invited to choose a slot that suited them a week or so in advance.

Sounds like your trust has different rules, which is brilliant!!

[Santaiscovidfree]

My dd's head of year is in icu after a spell in a coma.
As a family we are very upset... Can't imagine how her family are coping..
Imo before teachers /schools go back they should all be vaccinated.

[Waxonwaxoff0]

It's a sad story but people in all different professions have died of Covid unfortunately.

[Preg19]

@Radio4Rocks

The reason some say teachers should have priority is because they, unlike almost all other occupations, are not allowed to wear PPE at work or socially distance.

Similar to police officers then?

[Radio4Rocks]

I did say some. Did you expect me to list all the exceptions or are you just another teacher basher?

[Preg19]

@Radio4Rocks

I did say some. Did you expect me to list all the exceptions or are you just another teacher basher?

Not quite sure how you got that from my comment!

[Radio4Rocks]

It seemed a bit snippy to me, difficult to tell tone in text. I suppose I'm weary of all the attacks on teachers and the feeling from some that they are unworthy of protection.

Still not sure why you added what you did. Whataboutery, it seemed to be.

[MagicSummer]

Retired over 65s, they dont NEED to leave their house.

Well thank you very much! I have been stuck in the house for weeks/months, getting more and more despondent that I will ever even go a shop again. You expect me to give up my place for a teacher? No way.

[Hope4theBestPlan4theWorst]

Out nhs trust is currently doing staff and local carehome workers but had a list of local schools and the police station in town and contacts them if there are vaccines left over each day and they can get there within half an hour or so.

Not does however seem like a bit of a postcode lottery tho and varies depending on where people are

Some areas have vaccinated the over 70's but maybe they have fewer over 80's and have got thru them quicker?

[FindHungrySamurai]

The over 65s are far more likely to need to visit a hospital.

My parents and DPILs are in their seventies and vulnerable for various reasons though still fit and active, and not in need of care visits. They’ve been essentially confined to the house for nearly a year, they get their shopping delivered. But they all have unavoidable medical checkups, vitamin B injections, bone scans, radiotherapy, cancer investigations. They’re not unlucky - it is completely normal for people in their seventies to require regular medical interventions and investigations for the diseases of ageing, and not all of these things can be done remotely. You cannot just “shield the vulnerable”. They will get exposed to the virus eventually if it’s running free, and if they get exposed they are far more likely to become seriously ill and break the health system.