How many people under 40 have died?

[CreamteainCornwall]

I can’t find the figure anywhere, I know it’s low.

[Jrobhatch29]

www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences

Hi @onlinelinda they still publish the slides daily is that what you mean?

[Alex50]

@goingovergroound i’ve read those articles before, they are very vague, on one article it says 1 in 10, the other says 1 in 20. Are these people who have had it mildly, with hardly any symptoms or were they quite ill? What ages were they, did they have underlying health issues? Without data there are so many unanswered questions.

[Alex50]

It also says Professor Tim Spector, of King’s College London, which has developed the Covid-19 tracker app, estimates that a small but significant number of people are suffering from the “long tail” form of the virus.

So it says small but significant number, so confusing without data.

[Jrobhatch29]

1 in 10 of people who have taken the time to report their symptoms on an app.

[goingoverground]

@Alex50 1 in 10 have symptoms that last over 3 weeks. 1 in 20 have ongoing on and off symptoms. That isn't as clear a definition as the 1 in 10 but as very few people had COVID-19 more than a few months ago, there is no long term data.

[Kitcat122]

@Alex50 look it up there are lots of articles regarding young, previously fit people still suffering months later. 7000 people have now signed a petition regarding getting more help with what they call long tail Covid. It's a real thing and is something to consider instead of just concentrating on how few deaths there have been in younger people.

[Jrobhatch29]

Unfortunately like most viruses, covid will have long term effects for some people. A quick google of long term effects of flu will turn up results for lung damage, psychological problems, heart problems etc. My mam had myocarditis two years ago after a chest infection. Lots of viruses have post viral symptoms. If 3 and a half million people all got flu at the same time, we would most likely see a similar effect. It is only because covid is new and lots of people have had it at the same time that we are noticing this.

[Alex50]

I have looked up there isn’t efficient data. This thread is about under 40. How many under 40’s have had on going health issues after catching Covid? I can’t find any data, please if you have this information please add a link?

[Alex50]

Without data how do you know it’s thousands? Let alone 1000’s under 40?

[SunflowerProsecco]

But let's not forget the many many thousands of older people who have died. Their lives are just as valuable as young people and we cannot just be selfish and only think about our own risk. We should think about others not just ourselves.

[Alex50]

This thread is about unde 40, we know over 65 the number goes up significantly.

[itsgettingweird]

It's also worth noting that the next age group is 40-59. And there's a huge jump. However statistics I've seen indicate it's actually mainly over 50's in ghat group and predominantly over 55.

[Kitcat122]

We will see, there's not much data yet because it's such early days but I have looked into this alot. I agree flu and other viruses can cause longterm issues too but Covid seems to be very nasty. Many very fit active people can't walk up their stairs without being breathless and experiencing chest pain over 3 months on. Not as final as dying but still very scary.

[Runningshorts]

Sticks my hand up as someone who is under 40 and appears to have long term lung issues after getting ill in March. Feeling pretty crappy that every one else gets to move on and go back to normal, cheerfully proclaiming that it's "just a bit of flu" while my life will never be the fucking same again. Feeling sorry for myself tonight. No idea how many others are like this but I'm sure there are plenty enough. We're invisible.

[formerbabe]

We should think about others not just ourselves

Yeah I think we've been doing that hence why most children won't step foot in school for six months despite a minuscule risk to their health

[Alex50]

@kitcat122 i’m not saying that fit young people aren’t having long term health issues but how people seem to know on here it’s 1000’s of under 40’s walking around with long term health issues when there is no data is beyond me. Please enlighten me to how you have come to this conclusion?

[Alex50]

@Runningshorts I would contact your doctor and make sure it is on your medical record so data can be collected. I hope you feel better soon xx

[Jrobhatch29]

@Runningshorts sorry you are feeling unwell still, that must be rubbish.

Like @Alex50 says, we cannot know h
How these long term effects for covid compare to other viruses without data. Zoe works on people self reporting as well and many people who report may not even have covid. I think use of the word "permenant" at this point is a bit premature too.
Sorry for another anacdote from my life, but covid commonly causes pnemonia and there can be quite a recovery process from that. One of my best friends was hospitalised with pnemonia in her 30s and it took her months to recover. She has no long term damage though and runs everyday.
Perhaps the op was specifically asking about under 40s so she could make her own risk assessment?

[Kitcat122]

I am not saying long term as in forever with long term problems. (Hope not as I'm one of them). Just saying we need to be slightly less flippant with the term mild. Yes I really hope it's like pneumonia and just takes time.

[Alex50]

So how can people come on here and claim 1000’s of people have life long health conditions after having Covid when there is no number, no sufficient data? Why do people just make up numbers without having any facts? We may know in the future there is 1000’s but at the moment we don’t have that information.

[onlinelinda]

@jrobhatch29 yes thank you those are it exactly. 186 today!

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

Mners love to make alarming facts and figures up, mainly so they can follow it with “shame on this Government” or similar.

[Kitcat122]

Sorry didn't mean to annoy or be flippant I said 1000s because there are quite a lot of online groups with 1000s of members and partitions, one signed by 7000. I appreciate they will contain some odd balls 😏

[Itwasnoaccident9786756453]

Alex there's something very patronising about dismissing the advice of professionals under the guise of giving advice based on anecdotal evidence. I have completely different anecdotal evidence. I'm not going to pretend it's the norm because I don't know. There's a lot we don't know.

[Itwasnoaccident9786756453]

But the professional advice is not to treat it like a mild flu. As I'm sure you know.