So in what step do we get to see family?

[IWannaBreakFREE20]

It didnt mention when small numbers could mix or did I miss that?

[crimsonlake]

I did not expect much change, but found it very depressing, it just drives everything home again, it all seems so eternal. Not seeing family and friends, although my neighbours always have been so no change then for them.

[thetoddleratemyhomework]

I just posted this on another thread but


On the family front, I don't think that the government can really give people clear guidance right now. I actually think this is fair enough.

The government could say pick ONE other household to socialise with. Lots of people would pick more than one - both sets of parents for example if in a couple - and try to justify it to themselves as "just one more", or if defined as "close family" then close by whose standards? Blood only or friends you see more often than family?

Then you have the problem that even if people did pick one household, what we have is a developing epidemic in care homes and hospitals (the one in the community has peaked, but the numbers in healthcare institutions is growing and effectively those workers need to be isolating from those outside of their household as far as possible to avoid spread back to the community). It is pretty unpalatable to be saying to the people who are on the front line "everyone else can see some family, but as well as all the other sacrifices people are making, you can't".

At the moment, the french are being told to go back to work but socially distance - ie shouldn't be socialising - too. It is not just us. And they are doing miles better than us!

[Elbels]

@Spinakker your husband's interpretation is exactly why this briefing is confusing at best and dangerous at worst.

They absolutely have not said anything along these lines but I suspect people will hear it as that and tell others and so on and then we'll have lost control.

[Kickanxietyinthebeanbag]

What about resthomes ,when can we visit again

[Yellowbutterfly1]

At this rate you may as well go food shopping at the same time as your relatives and have a chat 2m apart in the queue waiting to go in.
At least you get to see them without not adhering to the ‘rules’.

Personally don’t see how it’s any different to sitting 2m apart in you garden having a chat but who am I to argue.

[user1488819536]

So you can sit in park with a bunch of strangers but can't sit in a garden with your own parents?

[Biscuit0110]

I am a fan of Boris, but I am really seriously sad with that speech. Nothing that mattered to anyone featured!!

Can we meet up with friends and family outside yes or no?
Can we take our children to the beach/lakes yes or no?
Can we go on holiday this summer yes or no?
Will other year groups in schools go back yes or no?

More questions than answers.

[Chloemol]

We can’t see family at the moment. We are still in lockdown and social distancing is still in place, no mixing of households

[ESpressoNotEXpresso]

I can't believe this wasn't addressed.

It's starting to sound like we won't be able to see and hug our family/loved ones, outside our households, until there is a vaccine

This can't be true, can it?

[Firef1y72]

There were a lot of things left out of that roadmap. I'm guessing that it will be fleshed out in the coming week. And if we're all good boys and girls we'll get thrown a bone or two along the way.

[Straycatstrut]

I don't understand why millions of people can go back to work and mix there, but adults living alone can't go over and see one family member for the sake of their mental health, and then go back home again.

Love how he mentioned mental health fleetingly and then swiftly changed the subject.

[AmICrazyorWhat2]

Lighthearted comment, but I found the travel quarantine really weird - why will most travellers be quarantined, but not the French, apparently.

Are travellers from France less potentially infectious than anyone else?!

[viques]

I don't think other primary year groups will be back this year, if R, 1 and 6 are going back in June but no mention of 2,3,4,5 going back in July the I don't think they will be, so parents with children in reception/1 who also have kids in 2,3,4,5 will be buggered because they can't go back to work if there s no one to look after their children.

[DamnYankee]

but only in your households

He's a politician. He's never going to say anything so unpopular as "You still can't see family" directly. It's political suicide and making himself the target of a possible lynch mob.
You can better believe that he will be more than happy to say directly, "Visits with family are now acceptable" when he can.
(However, willing to bet $$$ he will qualify with, "within x # of miles in groups of ten or less.")

[Florencemattell]

Nothing has changed.
Just go to work if can.
Many people who could work have stayed at home, asked to be furloughed.
The risk from the virus is still very real but we need to start to protect economy.
You wont to be able to see friends and family for a long long time. I'm guessing next year.
The schools going back before Sept is just to protect the very young who need to learn to read and write to access online learning.
And then older exam years.
No holidays , no shopping etc etc .

[ESpressoNotEXpresso]

I mean, why was it so bloody short?! That wasn't a roadmap! Does he honestly believe the nations attention span only holds for 15 minutes?! Really?!

We wanted more detail. We need more detail.

No, not all the questions can be answered, but that was far too vague.

[Shodan]

That was a very depressing speech.

No mention of when we could see family. No mention of when we could see partners we don't live with. No mention of when kids who are in years 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 might be able to go back.

It just seems that lockdown is going to go on and on, and all the time people's mental health is going to get worse and worse. Including mine and my 12 year old son's.

Unlimited exercise daily. For fucks' sake.

[Shodan]

You wont to be able to see friends and family for a long long time. I'm guessing next year.

Sorry, but fuck that for a game of soldiers.

[Devlesko]

I reckon it will be step 2, along with schools going back and furlough stopping.
Nothing is set in stone it depends on the "r" rate he said, and deaths.

[DamnYankee]

It's starting to sound like we won't be able to see and hug our family/loved ones, outside our households, until there is a vaccine

No. People won't stand for that. They will need to make their own choices at some point.

Don't lose hope.

[Yankathebear]

‘Then you have the problem that even if people did pick one household, what we have is a developing epidemic in care homes and hospitals (the one in the community has peaked, but the numbers in healthcare institutions is growing and effectively those workers need to be isolating from those outside of their household as far as possible to avoid spread back to the community). It is pretty unpalatable to be saying to the people who are on the front line "everyone else can see some family, but as well as all the other sacrifices people are making, you can't".’

Thank you @thetoddleratemyhomework

I’m a nurse. I’ve not seen my children since March.

[user1488819536]

There is no way I'm not letting my parents see my little boy until next year, that will kill them quicker than any virus. The mental health aspect is a much bigger issue than they ever address.
I'm lucky in that the r value in our area is extremely low as we are rural.

[viques]

Agree with firefly a lot of things left off that roadmap, more like a couple of scribbles on a post it.


I hope there is a better map somewhere with more explicit directions on it.

I saw someone on the news, a police officer who said, it needs to be clear, you do this, you don't do this. For example, If they are monitoring things regionally does that mean regions will get rewarded for being good and naughty regions will have to sit on the isolation step until they learn how to behave. Who knows, , not anyone watching that broadcast.


[Some one needs to tell BJ to stop banging his fist on the table, it doesn't make him seem forceful, it makes him look frustrated and out of control.]

[OhTheRoses]

It was pretty clear there's a 50 page doc of detailed guidance coming out tomorrow. What did you expect from a 10 minute broadcast?
I think he played a blinder. Clearly the public doesn't understand statistical data so it's been dumbed down to 5 risk categories on a traffic light system.

[BackInTime]

If there is a detailed document why not release it this evening so people can have more clarity.