Actions that should be taken Now instead of lockdown

[LittleRootie]

Padlock all parks and put signs on them explaining why they are closed (dc are super-spreaders/shedders)

Close all markets, including outdoor

Close all non-essential shops

Instruct supermarkets to only allow a certain amount of people in at one time (some already doing this, Aldi only let 75 in at a time yesterday)

All people to cover their faces when they go to the supermarket - doesn't need to be a proper mask, use a scarf or some other covering.

I quite liked the fake post about lions in russia

Few wild animals should do it!

Gloves makes no sense. Your hands are much easier to wash than woolly gloves. Just don't touch things

How can you not touch things if you're food shopping?

Yes, hands are easier to wash than gloves, they are also much better places for the virus to take hold and people tend to touch their faces without thinking about it. Wearing gloves reduces the risk and heightens awareness.

Vague advice and complicated rules is clearly not working. We need the simplicity of a Spanish style lock down

The advice/rules are not complicated or vague if properly communicated, unfortunately they haven't been properly communicated so far.

The virus is smaller than the holes in your scarf or woolly gloves

The virus is smaller than the holes in your scarf or woolly gloves^

Yes but droplets/spray from coughs and sneezes are not. I'm not saying a scarf or woolly gloves are a cure, I am saying they are a practical measure, available to everyone, that might help to reduce the spread and will help to raise awareness, which is what is badly needed.

@LittleRootie Yes, hands are easier to wash than gloves, they are also much better places for the virus to take hold and people tend to touch their faces without thinking about it. Wearing gloves reduces the risk and heightens awareness.

Where's your evidence that the virus stays on gloves less than on regularly washed hands? Genuinely interested if you have some, though I won't be wearing gloves until I'm given evidence.

Why do you think putting a scarf over your mouth will do anything positive? It might have the virus on, so putting it over your mouth is a risk, without any positive (for reasons already mentioned).

Do you really think we need to raise awareness? Do you know of someone who hasn't noticed this yet?

Do you really think we need to raise awareness? Do you know of someone who hasn't noticed this yet?

The whole of the media is convulsed over the issue of people not following guidelines. So yes, we 'need to raise awareness' so that people fully understand what they should and should not be doing.

Unless you're of the 'people are thickos so lockdown now' view in which case there's nothing useful i can say to you.

People arriving in the Uk should be quarantined for 14 days.
This is what is happening in HK.

I disagree about gloves. We need to get into the habit of not touching our faces. If the virus gets into your skin, soap and water washes it off. Or hand sanitiser, if you're out (and you have some). If you're wearing gloves, you'd have to wash them every time you take them off. They give you a false sense of security.

Close down hairdressers and beauty parlours- all still.open in my area yesterday.

And mine - the barbers were busy on Saturday, had a sign up saying they weren't doing facial shaves but they are still in physical contact for head shaves! Also a shop full of men waiting to be seen. They should definitely be closed immediately.

I can’t believe that foreign school trips are still coming here.

You would think that by now, the only planes landing are Britons coming home and straight into isolation.
I’ve said goodbye to my 7 month old Grandson today, not knowing when I will see him again, I usually have him 5 days a week as DD is a teacher but her school has few kids in so she doesn’t need to work.

GenderApostate19 that must be a big wrench for you and your grandson Hope you will be able to see him again before too long

I think you should leave the gloves and scarf over your face advice to the professionals.

I don't think people are thick. I do think a short, full Lockdown would be better than a prolonged period of social distancing. I am not an expert, so I'm not sure if it would even work like that. I will follow government advice, and err on the side of caution by rigorously washing hands and surfaces and going out as little as possible (only for food or work, as I am a teacher). I will not follow random ideas from people on mums net, unless they're backed up by science or the government.

People are aware of this virus. Most are following government advice, which is too lax and allows us to all go to the park. Some are choosing to ignore all advice and they won't stop because you've got a scarf over your face.

The issue has been compounded by the lovely weather at the weekend. If we'd had rain all weekend, people would have stayed in. Trust the British weather to be nice just when we need it to chuck it down!

I think what you're suggesting is pretty much a Lockdown actually, having thought abiut it more. So we're probably on the same page really!

Actually, apologies for being a bit combative here. I'm arguing over a little thing that probably won't hurt anyone! I think I have too much time on my hands just now!

I think what you're suggesting is pretty much a Lockdown actually

It's really not. People would be free to come and go as long they follow distancing guidelines - people do see to have different ideas on lockdown but those calling for it are talking about the use of forces/police to prevent people setting foot outside unless they've got a specific reason. I am very concerned of the consequences of such a policy

Apology appreciated by the way - we're all on edge so it's understandable - i'm no saint either!

People need to understand the only way to make this virus disappear is to make grocery shopping once to buy as much food as they need for days or even weeks, and shut themselves up at home.

That is the only way, no matter the laws, markets, shops, covering face, gloves, parks... all appropriate things but not the most important thing in this situation.

People need to understand also the data of statistics. If you see 10 infected it means there are at least 100 people going around without any symptoms and infeting others people.
1.000 diagnosed infected at the moment = 10.000 NOT diagnosed but infected, unaware they are infecting other people.

A friend of my daughter's who is probably in th e very high risk was told by her consultant that a scarf wrapped around her face was better than nothing if she really did need to go out. I not think she's done it more than a couple of times.

People are too selfish and thick so there needs to be lockdown.

those calling for it are talking about the use of forces/police to prevent people setting foot outside unless they've got a specific reason. I am very concerned of the consequences of such a policy

Well the consequences here in France are that you either obey the rules or you get a fine. A bigger fine for a second offence and potentially 6 months in prison for a third.

Tends to concentrate the mind!

I think the guidelines are very clear on social distancing. The reason they are being ignored is not because people don’t understand them it’s because they are too selfish and entitled to think the rules apply to them.

The only way now is for a full lockdown in the way that Spain has applied it, we must only leave the house individually and when necessary and it needs to be policed with fines. Boris has given people the chance to have more freedom and they have shown that they can’t be trusted.

I think they should get some of the new hand gel being made by breweries and send it (obviously to medical facilities first) to supermarkets, pharmacies, banks, etc for people to use before they come in. And warehouses or anywhere else that is possible. The more the presence of the virus could be reduced on surfaces, the less people would be likely to pick it up themselves. We are always told about washing hands after being in the supermarket, and of course you do, but I'd like people to get used to washing/gel hands before doing anything else that might spread it, too. Before AND after. And as much else as possible.

A friend of my daughter's who is probably in th e very high risk was told by her consultant that a scarf wrapped around her face was better than nothing if she really did need to go out

Very interesting to hear that from a medical professional. I'll continue to use that method, in the absence of a proper face mask