IS THIS THING AIRBORNE??

[R2221]

We’ve been going on long country side walks. A few other families/couples were there and they all were mindful of keeping distance. At no point were we within 10ft distance of others. Now I read that Coronavirus could be airborne. Wth !!

Can anyone pls tell me what you know about it? I’ve been to the supermarkets nearly every day for the last 7-10 days to get bits of my weekly shopping. I could never get everything at one place in one go. Should I prepare for getting CV then - like prepare batch meals and freeze, things like that. We’ve been isolating and massively social distancing for the last 2 weeks. Is that all futile ??

Yes you can catch it if someone sneezes or coughs and you walk into it.

Also you're not isolating if you've been in the supermarket, those things are a viral hotbed.

Yes, I really thought Im at risk if someone coughs and sneezes around me. Also I’m at risk if I touch a surface that someone with C. coughed on and then touch my face (rub eyes nose, bite nails etc) I’ve been consciously trying to not touch my face while at the supermarkets and wash hands straight after getting home.
I had no clue this thing is floating in the air and I’m at risk merely by walking around, even with safe distancing.

Why can't you do a weekly shop?

Where do you live where you can do a weekly shop? Hasn't been possible here for weeks!

‘Weekly shop’ dear god, where have you been?! I’m having to go to more than one shop per day, some days, just to get basics like vegetables. The stockpilers are going to ruin us.

@Daisiest ...but...food

On the WHO website they don't believe it can at the moment BUT what I think they mean by HC workers catching it in different environments is because the droplets will land on a lot more equipment etc, bed guards, blankets, etc. There isn't enough know about it but keep your 2m distance.

I saw an article or report weeks ago that mentioned a study in China, where they had looked at CCTV footage of a man on a bus.

They believe he had caught the virus on a bus. The conclusion was that the virus might be airborne.

Something to do with his distance to other passengers, the time he spent on the bus and so on. I think it said the bus was almost empty for the time he was on it and that he had not caught it by touching surfaces.

Sorry I cant remember it more clearly

How does everyone isolate without the need to go out to buy food???? Even if you stocked up items like pasta etc, how do you get fresh food?

Yes R2221 if the droplets are still in the air. But 2 mins latter prob not. Hence why sneeze into a tissue.

The best we know is that it is droplet spread. It can become aerosolised (airborne) with aerosol generating procedures. That's things like intubating patients, not things like being in a supermarket. But droplets can spread several feet. And the virus can live a while on surfaces. So going to the supermarket every day is still a bad idea.

Jesus Christ.

Of course it's fucking airborne.

And no, you do not need to go out every day to buy fresh veg. Just cook what you have in the cupboard like everyone else. You are not going to die of not having romaine lettuce for a whole two weeks.

FFS.

Also you're not isolating if you've been in the supermarket, those things are a viral hotbed.

Which is just fantastic for people that work in a supermarket every day.

@SarahAndQuack There is nothing much left in the cupboards after 2 weeks of using it up with the bits I could get from empty shelves. I need one big shop to properly stock up and I left it too late. That’s the truth.

So use what is in the cupboards?

Or go to the shops and buy the stuff you don't particularly fancy, but which is fine?

I don't know what is wrong with people.

Of course it’s airbourne !!!!
It’s sheds into our breathe, we exhale it in plumes into our surroundings
Social distancing means stay at home for all but essential travel !!! Walks in the countryside are not essential

It is airborne when it is coughed, sneezed or exhaled in droplets. It doesn’t float about in the air like pollen though.

And yes, if someone was coughing (in an enclosed space) and you walked into where they were coughing within a minute or two there is a risk.

Even outside, if someone coughs or sneezes and you inhale just at the point there is a risk.

This is why the 2m rule has become standard advice.

Of course it's fucking airborne.

With the caveat that I'm not a virologist, so the following is my reading of other's best info at this moment.

It's unlikely to be completely airborne, more likely that tiny droplets can stay in the air for a while if coughed/breathed out.

I read a paper which had found the virus in droplets in the air for up to three hours after being aerosolised. In the open, in sunglight, it's likely to be a much shorter period but there is still a chance of catching it if you are near someone who is ill.

R2221
No, it is not airborne, it does not have wings.
It is spread by droplet spray (coughs/sneezes) or surface contamination.

OP, try to change your ideas of what you need for meals. Instead of giving up when you can’t get what you want, beans for example, try another kind of food. You might need to become very imaginative and create some strange combinations, until you’ve built up a larder. I’m worried about the risk you’re putting yourself at. Are there any delivery services in your area, such as veg boxes, prepared meals, etc?

@donquixotedelamancha, that is what airborne means. That is literally the definition of it.

(DP works in this area.)

I also couldn’t do a weeks shop - I’ve had to go to our small local shop 3 times this week since my so called weekly shop :-(

But, the CV positive person, who feels well, is out shopping.
He sneezes, into his hanky.
No guarantee, all of his sneezed droplets are in the hanky.
He has a few miniscule droplets on his hand.
Everything he touches with that hand will leave viral traces.
This virus can live for up to 3 DAYS on some surfaces - seems to be mainly smooth surfaces like stainless steel (door handles?) and some plastics (light switches, plug switches?).

And, that's why it's safer to be at home with your own bugs rather than out and about with your own and everyone else's.

schmoozer

“it’s sheds into our breathe we exhale it in plumes”
I’m not sure what you meant, but if you’re trying to say it is in our breath when we breathe out then you are wrong.

It literally meets the scientific definition of airborne and has been confirmed so for some time.

This is most likely why the cruises had so many infected - air conditioning.

It's why people are wearing masks, not because they're stupid nutters, but because it's airborne.

Maybe worth watching m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=JNQUHc8wbRc