To have told dh not to take me to the hospital if I’m really ill?

[Butterbear86]

With anything really, there’s currently no point, but if I get cv and I’m really ill am I correct in thinking as a t1 diabetic no one would treat me?
I’ve told dh to leave me in the spare bedroom as I’d sooner die at home.

You think it's acceptable to put that responsibility onto your DH - leave you in the spare room deteriorating and likely die of a slow and painful death?
You think that the last memories of you; perhaps the noise of you struggling to breathe, hallucinating without adequate oxygen to your brain and finally finding your dead body is a reasonable request to put onto your DH?
Have you planned pain relief into this very self absorbed idea?
Have you planned who would assist with personal hygiene or do you aim to be on death's door and still stay continent?
What a cruel and insensitive idea.
Contact the diabetes team you're supported by tomorrow and ask for an alternative suggestion.

I have 2 siblings with t1. Please do go to the hospital if you get very ill. You are as valuable as anyone else.

@Absentmindedwoman on ICU most diabetics (and quite a few non-diabetics) are kept on insulin infusions, and blood glucose is checked every time they do a blood gas reading, which is 1-2 hourly in the sickest patients. Tight glucose control is important. DKA incredibly rare there (unless of course that's what someone came in with), hypos more common but easily rectified.

@SockQueen thank you very much for your reply, that is is incredibly comforting to hear that DKA is rare in that situation.

Ugh the blood gases (not envy) I absolutely hate having arterial blood taken, it’s so painful!

Even if ICU beds are limited you would be given sedatives and painkillers, from what I hear it is not a pleasant way to go.

@Absentmindedwoman if you're that sick you get an arterial line put in so we can use that for all testing, stabbing you repeatedly that frequently would be horrid!

@Butterbear86
JESUS CHRIST!!!
NO!! You WILL GO to hospital. This is getting out of hand.
One half of the population is panicking thinking their going to die, the other half are completely blase so the first group tries to scare them with stories of everyone dying.... and in the middle of all this you're ready to jump off a cliff.

The reason they're "flattening the curve" is precisely because they want to get treatment to EVERYONE.

The percentages are small even in the risk groups.
Let's all chill out. This has to be the saddest thing I've read this morning and I actually feel shit that you're thinking like this.

You’re chances of survival would really high, so of course you go!

My expectation is that a very few people, very sadly, may well be given the option of palliative care in hospital or at home, at the later stages: this can happen with lots of conditions. But their is no reason to think that you’d t1 diabetes would lead you to that stage!

You plan for your death is a bit premature just now!

We have a room completely separate to the house so I said I’d just stay there...
I don’t know, I just feel so vulnerable, I know loads of people do for various things. I’m worried about insulin pump supply deliveries - what if they stop? I’m worried about not being able to get insulin. I’m just so worried about it all. I’m aware I’m not unique in this, lots of people have additional health concerns. It’s just diabetes is really really high and then it says about people who aren’t healthy not being treated and I I feel like just giving up now.

My son is type 1
He was diagnosed at 2
He's now 10

You must go hospital if poorly, because of dka

So many reasons to look after yourself

Supplies will be there, we've been told this time and time again

Please, please go if you need to.

I have Addison’s disease and I belong to a Facebook group where several members have already been in hospital with coronavirus as a lot of us have other conditions as well (asthma etc) which make us a high risk group. Everyone has received amazing care - and yes it is stretched - but everyone is pleased they went and if they can get you better they will do everything they can to help.

As a diabetic you have every chance of beating this. Don’t let the anxiety beat you.

Do you have an insulin pen as back up for your pump? If not, time to arrange one tomorrow. Did you read what I said about the diabetes stats? There is no reason to think your risk is anything like 7%, plus 7% is a 93% survival rate!

Please don't inflict that sort of suffering on your DH, who will carry that for the rest of his life. And don't inflict it on yourself when there's no need!

You sound like you've gone into anxiety overload. You're in a spin and you need to switch off for a bit, honestly.

There is no drain on pump supplies or insulin. You will carry on being able to get essential supplies. Not least, because if all the diabetics started keeling over, it would just add to the current crisis. They really don't want that, and it's something they can control, so they will.

There is no need to give up. Please don't. Your chances of it barely affecting you are so good, and your chances of dying from this are so, so low, they really are.

Now come on, what's a nice thing you could do?

I’ve got pen back ups but I had loads of hypos when on pens that the pump has eradicated. It’s just a really bad time to be life dependent on medication to survive.
I think if dh could just leave me to it it would be ok.

They would treat you if they had the resources to treat you however I reckon that there will come a point where they are swamped and have to pick and choose who to treat.

If you get coronavirus, this doesn't mean you need to go to hospital - in fact you should stay away in most cases; they can't treat the virus itself so the only thing that one would achieve by going is infecting other people However if you are having serious difficulties breathing, or experiencing any other severe complications, then you should 100% go.

Do you have any existing depressive or mental health conditions, OP?

Also, just because you have one of the high risk conditions, doesn't mean that if you get coronavirus you will die. It just means that there is a chance that you may experience more severe symptoms than an otherwise healthy person. But then again, you may not.

I'm thinking the same. I'm asthmatic. I know based on this

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-nice-guidelines-doctors-patients-intensive-care-ventilators-a9416266.html

I won't get any help and will be left to die alone in the hospital.

No point going there. I will chose to die at home.

@YoursTunbridgeWells that's really irresponsible posting.

No-one will be left to die alone in hospital. There's no automatic predictor that someone with asthma will be severely affected, though they might. And they will be treated appropriately.

No! It doesn't say that! Nor anything like it!

It basically says, if we really cannot save you, we will discuss it with you. And it's talking about not putting people into critical care, not completely withdrawing treatment.

You sound like my dad, although the difference is he is in one hand acting like a attention seeking martyr, I’ll die in my bed to help the NHS, bury me in the garden etc etc to the other hand I bet they won’t treat me because I’m not important, I bet I get stuck in a corridor etc etc what I trying to say is, for those around him it’s very tiring, at the end of the day he is an adult of sound mind as are you, you do what you think is best for yourself and your family and that is you should go to hospital.

Sorry wrong link. There is one out there that supports the fact those with underlying conditions would not be treated.

The only choice left to me is where I die.

No I know people only go to hospital if they cannot breathe, not just cos they have Covina-19.
Drs from Italy are saying exactly this though, they are only saving healthy people. They aren’t even assessing people who are over a certain age or aren’t well. It makes sense. Ergo. No point going even if really ill.

I must admit that I've had the same thoughts, and for anyone wondering why someone might think that, just look back over some of the threads of the past few days e.g the one around BMI, where 'you won't get treated, you will die' is being bandied about

Or the whole host of 'it's ok it's only old and sick people will die', or 'why should I have to take any precautions myself, I'll definitely get a bed over someone with pre-existing conditions' - not actual words but pretty much the theme of some posters

Presumably this all comes from people with no underlying health conditions, that don't have friends and family at risk - but it's fucking terrifying those of us who do (or in the case of the OP making her feel unworthy of treatment)

So shame on the hysterical fearmongers