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So how is all this ‘open only for key workers’ thing going to work then?

408 replies

FlamingoAndJohn · 18/03/2020 17:32

Really is doesn’t seem to mean anything.

I can’t really teach a random selection of children.

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LuluJakey1 · 18/03/2020 21:44

I hope they compensate teachers
WTF! Why? They receive good salaries and will be paid full salary throughout this situation. Why should they be compensated? I say that and DH is a teacher. I was a teacher.

alloutoffucks · 18/03/2020 21:44

My DP is in healthcare in an area with no risk to him. He is being relocated to a risky area doing work he is not keen on doing and for a lot less than teachers.
Everyone is being negatively impacted. But no one chose for this to happen. We just have to do the best we can.

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:44

Well to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that this is a good thing. Surely the children from these families will carry a far higher risk to those taking care of them, then carry this back to their own
families. My mother is old and effectively I wouldn't be able to see her. She already cant see my children.

Nuffaluff · 18/03/2020 21:45

I am a teacher and I want to help. I’m glad the government are going down this route. I want to do my bit.
I’m so glad they’ve included vulnerable children.
I would like to teach these children, rather than just babysit them; especially the vulnerable children who are at such a disadvantage.

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:46

I can totally appreciate the dilemma. I am not sure what the answer is. What bout the teachers with families. How will that work? They go in to look after other children ..who will look after theirs?

Smellbellina · 18/03/2020 21:47

Do we know if teachers in one of the vulnerable (I.e flu jab) categories will be required to be on site? It’s not that I wish to shirk my responsibilities but I can’t help find it a bit worrying.

Nuffaluff · 18/03/2020 21:47

Yes, I will be putting myself at risk. I’m worried about that, but I want to help.
I’m sure lots of my colleagues feel the same.
Of course it’s different if the teacher or a member of their household is in a high risk category.

alloutoffucks · 18/03/2020 21:47

Really!! A teacher thinks they should be paid more for what is apparently glorified babysitting and what the poorly paid support staff should be doing instead?

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:47

I would perhaps be up for it if I were young and without a family.

ButterflyBitch · 18/03/2020 21:47

It won’t be less work though Famous will it? Children with ehcp’s and vulnerable children will be some of the hardest to work with. Especially in circumstances like these.
As someone upthread said they will have to be kept occupied, safe etc with minimal staff. What happens if one child kicks off? What happens if they all kick off? It’s likely to happen when everything is so uncertain and not routine anymore. I can totally see timeforachanges point of view.
It’s not glorified babysitting. It won’t be easy and you have the added fear of taking a potential killer virus back to vulnerable members of your own family. It’s actually a really tricky conundrum to solve and I don’t envy those who have to figure it out.

Nuffaluff · 18/03/2020 21:47

I have two young children. They will come in with me.

LuluJakey1 · 18/03/2020 21:49

We just have to get on with this, stop moaning and do our best. Our priority has to be healthcare workers, emergency services and social care workers, along with service workers like delivery drivers, key food production workers. Teachers will not be strained supervising small numbers of children.
There will be plenty of people in much worse conditions.

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:49

Well said @ButterflyBitch

june2007 · 18/03/2020 21:49

Key workers kids, eHcp kids and children with socail needs/ Thats quite a lot of kid. Not sure how it will work.

noblegiraffe · 18/03/2020 21:50

Do we know if teachers in one of the vulnerable (I.e flu jab) categories will be required to be on site?

Unions say no.

And how could you be required to come in when you’re on a list of self-isolators published by the government?

You could be expected to work from home though.

Butterflywings1 · 18/03/2020 21:50

I am a teacher, I work in a special school. 2 of my family members (dh & dc) are in the vulnerable group but I am expected to still go into work.

All my students have EHCPs and school is open. I will be going in, it worries me immensely as I am scared I could bring it home and it would be life threatening to my dc particularly but as the government have said special schools to stay open I have an obligation to my students.

It's a difficult situation to be in.

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:51

I think the unions have to consider health and safety of teachers - sorry.
If its voluntary, fair enough.

OverByYer · 18/03/2020 21:51

Nice to see @Nuffaluff

Mistressiggi · 18/03/2020 21:51

Thewordwomanistaken I think you are so right about the years of austerity and demonisation of public sector workers.
Maybe it is time for some bankers to give something back and step up to offer their services to look after the children of key workers. No?
There are two themes on this thread, one being the importance of supporting key workers to get into their places of employment, and the other being the worry that teachers might somehow be getting something for nothing and lazing their days away at home. All the office based workers in my LA have been asked to work from home. No one is calling them lazy.
We've continued working after everywhere else in Europe has closed their schools and it is frankly a relief to know this is changing. So, am immediate pile on in our section on mumsnet for teachers is frankly not appreciated. Teachers should have the chance in Staffroom to talk about the practicalities of how this might work, potential pitfalls etc without having to justify themselves to every random with a view on teachers (which, let's face it, is pretty much everyone).
Rant over I'll get back to learning how to use the online system we will use for lessons.

neveradullmoment99 · 18/03/2020 21:51

I am totally fine with working from home.

BobbyBlueCat · 18/03/2020 21:52

I haven't seen a single doctor, hospital cleaner, police officer, paramedic, nurse, supermarket staff, delivery driver, surgeon, carer etc on these boards say one negative thing about what they've been asked (told) to step up and do, often unpaid, without knowing if they'll be paid down the line or if they'll get TOIL for it. Not one.

Yet there are MULTIPLE threads on here from teachers moaning about working Easter and/or having key worker children for the foreseeable.

This is your opportunity to step up and show everyone you are willing to do what needs to be done and prove the doubters wrong, not fucking moan about shit that a lot of other workers are just getting on with because we are in a global crisis and IT'S BIGGER THAN YOU.

Grow up, do your bit and have some fucking self-respect.

Smellbellina · 18/03/2020 21:53

Have you stopped to read the thread before pouncing Bobby?

LuluJakey1 · 18/03/2020 21:54

Many parents of children with milder SEN will wish to keep them at home rather than them be taught by strange staff and possibly in a place that is strange to them. Some children with EHCPs require medical support at school. Special schools must be expected to remain open because every child has an EHCP. It will be business as usual for them I expect.
On the BBC tonight, the editor of Schoolsweek said teachers will be classed as essential service workers and their children will have places in school- not that our 2 will be going.

cabbageking · 18/03/2020 21:54

We are definitely closed over Easter.

Alwaystwomagpies · 18/03/2020 21:54

@silenceattheback well it’s hardly like NHS staff have been working in amazing conditions the last few years either have they?

Yes teachers have had it hard. And now they are being asked to step up and do something to help. This is a crisis like the country has never known.

As a doctor who has been let down so many times by the Torys I am still going in to front line work and will continue to do so despite also being worried about what I will bring home to my kids.
I will have to avoid my own vulnerable relatives for god knows how long let alone the not insubstantial risk to my own health esp with the Italian stats of death in healthcare workers. It’s terrifying but this is what we all trained for.

Please do your bit in this. Look after my kids so DH and I can work and look after your relatives and friends.

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