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HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 02:13

@nicerainyweather Hope you remember your attitude here when there is a lack of NHS workers to treat you because they are having to deal with the stress of whats being discussed here.

HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 02:15

And im not surprised to see the whining now that the reckoning might have to be paid.

Sobeyondthehills · 18/03/2020 02:31

I am also worried what I am going to do with my key meter.

Let alone the rent and council tax.

Pixxie7 · 18/03/2020 02:49

@BoccaBaciata I contacted Eon this morning about the same thing, was told the same thing until I made a complaint and all of a sudden they are going to fit a smart meter on Sat. It’s worth a try.

sashh · 18/03/2020 02:59

I don't see how this could even work for people who have pay-as-you-go electricity/gas meters they have to physically top up every couple of weeks.

In the same way as the 'warm homes' discount is applied, the company credit the meter automatically.

HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 03:19

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/energy-watchdog-urged-help-pre-21706429?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Energy watchdog urged to help pre-pay customers hit by coronavirus curbs
The Lib Dems' acting leader Sir Ed Davey, a former Energy Secretary, has written to industry regulator Ofgem amid fears over the impact of Covid-19

The energy watchdog was today urged to help pre-paid gas and electricity customers hit by the coronavirus outbreak.

Some four million families rely on pre-paid electricity, with many cards bought at Paypoints in local shops to power their homes.

But with a widespread crackdown on people's movements to curb the spread of Covid-19, Lib Dem acting leader Sir Ed Davey fears households could suffer.

He has written to industry regulator Ofgem calling for protections for vulnerable consumers.

Sir Ed, a former Energy Secretary, says in his letter: “At a time when thousands of families face the very real prospect of self-isolation - not least individuals who live alone and may not have reliable family or friendship networks - we risk a situation where people who run out of credit are unable to heat their homes, or are forced to go out whilst unwell, jeopardising the health of others

“I am sure that you will agree that such a situation is unacceptable as it puts vulnerable people at risk.”

He questioned what action Ofgem was asking utility giants to take “to support those who are at risk of being cut off due to lack of credit”; “to ensure that gas and electricity supplies are not automatically switched off for those customers who are unable to go in-store to top up”; and “to provide alternative measures to enable people to pay for gas and electricity online, or to suspend payments altogether”.

Sir Ed added: “I am concerned that a large number of people will face real financial hardship, missing work or losing clients as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

“These are difficult times, and we must come together to support those in greatest need

An Ofgem spokeswoman said: “It is critical that customers remain on supply.

“We are working with the government, Citizens Advice and Energy UK, as well as closely engaging industry to discuss their readiness and to ensure consumers are protected.

“We have written to all suppliers to stress the importance of taking early steps to manage risks and support consumers, and have been engaging suppliers at senior levels.

“We expect suppliers to take proactive measures to support pre-payment meter customers, including customers in vulnerable circumstances.

“If a customer is unable to top up their pre-payment meter they should contact their supplier immediately to discuss how they can be kept on supply.

“We understand suppliers are considering a number of measures to support consumers in this situation.

The spokeswoman went on: “Energy is an essential service.

“Consumers who have self-isolated may want to arrange for a trusted person to help them and take their top-up card to the shop if required.

“It may also be helpful for consumers to leave the meter box unlocked if they need someone else to top up the meter.

“Smart meter customers should be able to top-up remotely, such as by phone, mobile application or online.

“Some suppliers are also posting pre-loaded cards to customers who are unable to top-up outside their home.

“Suppliers should continue to identify vulnerable customers and work to ensure their needs are met. This includes taking a proportionate approach to debt recovery and late payments where appropriate.

“Currently, all regulatory requirements remain in place for all licensees.

“We are closely monitoring the situation and we will update industry if circumstances change.

We are aware of a range of proactive measures being taken by industry to manage risks and protect customers.

Pixxie7 · 18/03/2020 03:22

Faced with the prospect of loosing our homes etc. Perhaps we should spare a thought for all the people who live on benefits for years. Many through no fault of their own.

Bananabixfloof · 18/03/2020 05:22

Where's that money supposed to come from
The country is in dire financial trouble, and you expect tax payers to pay you your full wage for not working
Actually I expect the company I work for to pay my wage. Bit like when I have holidays and get full pay. In this case add on an extra two weeks holiday.
As I do the accounts I know this company can do it for a couple of weeks but no longer. I suspect they wont want to pay full wages, so will just go with whatever the govt recommends cos cheaper.

I really don't think that the govt forcing energy companies that they dont own to give away energy will work, at all.
Council tax may be given a holiday from payments, but it wont reduce. People will just have longer to pay, even into the next ct year.
Same with water.
None of this is cheaper than simply paying full wages.

CappyCapCap · 18/03/2020 05:54

The tovernementbwould pay for the free gas and electric. Probably at a much cheaper rate.

It's actually quite easy to top a non smart meter up remotely.

The company sends a message to the top up point. The card/key goes in and its transferred onto the card.

For most people that will work, if we are in lock down as you can still go to the shop. People who are isolation, will find it more difficult. They could send an engineer, assuming you have external meters or post preloaded keys and cards.

Whilst looking after friends and neighbours this is something we would have ensure we ask them about

WinterCat · 18/03/2020 06:03

But one of the "advantages" of smart meters is that they can be remotely controlled. So if you top up online, you don't need a key/card.

That is an advantage although even the keys/cards can be sent a signal that is received when they are topped up, which is how they know when tariff prices change. The issue would be that energy providers would have to rely upon everyone topping up to get a signal there there was no change and then, after this, topping up again to say there is. Not only will lots of people never top up again but the energy companies are private and greedy businesses.

CappyCapCap · 18/03/2020 06:16

I am not following. Why would no one ever top up again?

WinterCat · 18/03/2020 06:29

Why would no one ever top up again?

Because the signal is sent to the key or card and received at the time of top up. If you go to the top up machine to receive a signal that your unit rates and daily standard charge have reduced to 0p, then some people will not go back to receive another signal once this is over to say that they need to pay the normal going rate.

CappyCapCap · 18/03/2020 06:42

Ah right. But that's not how they would do it.

It wont become zero tariff. They will send preloaded cards for people in isolation.

If you arent. The message they will send to the terminal, will a top up. So when you go to the top up terminal, you card is topped up from the company.

Or they will do how they can do the warm home discount. Send a letter with a barcode that you take to the shop to top up and give a bigger chunk in one go.

They wont reduce meters to zero tarrif.

Smart meters will be topped up from the supplier.

Sobeyondthehills · 18/03/2020 14:24

In the same way as the 'warm homes' discount is applied, the company credit the meter automatically.

No, this is not how is works in some cases, they send a barcode on a letter to the person and the person has to go to a top up station to get it put on.

Nat6999 · 18/03/2020 14:38

Anyone who is disabled can contact their energy company to have prepayment meters removed by law. The companies never tell you this until you ask.

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