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To think mumsnet is making more fuss of corona than anywhere else on the Internet, or in general society
FreshFancyFrogglette · 17/03/2020 11:48
Just that! Until I checked mumsnet I realised we had a serious situation on our hands, and that hand washing is essential, and isolating if you have symptoms. And that was that, carried on as normal. But coming on here, and it's people convinced they are going to die because they've got asthma, people refusing to go into work (even though they don't have any symptoms), people planning for the end of the world. I'm sorry, but this just doesn't reflect the rest of the world. I was at my friend's last night, and apart from mentioning her partner needs to be careful because he's got cancer, it wasn't mentioned. Same when I went shopping. On here it's sounds like the world is ending. Aibu??
FreshFancyFrogglette · 17/03/2020 15:01
The survival rate is 98.2% isn't it? Or 92.8%. I think I read that from a reliable source. Am I wrong? Now to me that sounds quite good, quite positive. Am not saying its nice that anyone has to die, and if my daughter was in the 2% then I would be destroyed, but that's the same with many illnesses we've had to live alongside, like mennengitus etc.
snowqu33n · 17/03/2020 15:01
In my area of Japan, schools have been closed for three weeks, as has my workplaces, and we have been asked to stay at home apart from essential trips. The area has had well over 100 cases and 5 deaths, but today was the first day in over a month with no new official cases.
Social distancing is the only thing proven to work against this virus to slow it down so that people who get seriously ill can get the care they need.
We are now waiting to see what happens next when schools and other places reopen.
There have been two cases in the news here in Japan of people getting sick and testing positive again two weeks after recovering and being discharged into the community, so banking on achieving herd immunity seems a risky gamble.
lazylinguist · 17/03/2020 15:02
Don't be ridiculous. People telling the truth about the risks does not mean they are glad about it. You make a thread about how everyone's too worried on MN and is making a disproportionate fuss. But it turns out that you're just lashing out because deep down you are worried, and other people being factual makes it harder for you to stay in denial.
People will be helpful and sympathetic to you if you admit you're worried, especially if you or your family are vulnerable and high-risk. But not if you just come on here implying we're all making a fuss about nothing! People aren't morbid, they're worried and trying to prepare for the worst.
TwelveIslands · 17/03/2020 15:02
OP
This is a deadly, incredibly contagious disease. Other countries have lockdowns now, we aren't far behind. The NHS has nowhere near the number of ventilators or even beds needed to keep people alive.
My stepmum is blithely laughing away at the hysteria. She is as in denial as you are. She's in a high risk group and is skipping about shopping every day.
Nuts!
viccat · 17/03/2020 15:05
BBC News channel is currently 24/7 coronavirus news coverage.
Pretty much all companies I've ever bought from have sent an email about how they're managing the outbreak/dealing with deliveries etc.
Facebook groups are full of posts about coronavirus. My Twitter feed is pretty much all about it too in one way or another.
Local shops have bare shelves and it's impossible to book delivery slots for online shopping without waiting a week or two.
So no, it's definitely not just MN!
PopcornZoo · 17/03/2020 15:06
@aloealoealoealoe
Most of the world is watching Britain and thinking its being handled extremely negligently, I'm ashamed to be British right now.
I really don't think so, I think they have better things to be getting on with. And it's not like every single country in the world is doing things the same way, except Britain.
FreshFancyFrogglette · 17/03/2020 15:07
I'm not lashing out at all. Why are people being bulshy? I feel like people actually want me to catch it, for some reason, to reach me a lesson or something. That's quite spiteful, and upsetting tbhm I'm more worried about what this has done to people, and how they are reacting than the illness itself. All I asked was if I was being unreasonable to think the worry on mumsnet is excessive. Some people agree, some people disagree. And some people have been plain nasty.
FreshFancyFrogglette · 17/03/2020 15:10
Yes, but media reflects the interest of selling papers. First and foremost. If they can profit, then they will. That's not to say that this isn't serious, of course it is, but it's really hard to wade through the hysteria, to get to the truth.
Can someone tell me if the 98.2% survival rate is accurate please?
Dongdingdong · 17/03/2020 15:10
There does seem to be a level of hysteria on here that doesn’t exist in real life. There have been threads asking if we will ever get back to normal, if it’s the end of life as we know it and if law and order will break down. All a bit extreme imo.
A couple of months ago this was the exact situation on the Brexit boards. Now it's switched to coronavirus. It seems some posters just love a disaster to latch onto.
DishingOutDone · 17/03/2020 15:13
@OP - you've said @snowqu33n that you think the things she has described are "positive action". But if, as you assert, panic is unnecessary then why would you consider closing schools and restricting travel as "positive action"?
Surely you are advocating life as normal, because its nothing to worry about? You sound very much like a lady I met yesterday (my last trip into the office for foreseeable future) who said that people die all the time so she can't see what the problem is ...
Everything you have said so far, everything from other who agree with you, seems to come from a place of being ignorant and maybe even a bit arrogant. I could understand if you said look I need to work and we have no money for panic buying, lots of people in that position, but you are saying that because you have to work, and have no money for panic buying, there can be no scientific reasons for measure to be taken and that any action taken is entirely due to panic.
So far, I am really glad you raised this, because you are confirming my initial suspicions that you and others like you are not coming at this from a position of informed debate.
woodchuck99 · 17/03/2020 15:16
Can someone tell me if the 98.2% survival rate is accurate please?
No one knows exactly what it is. The WHO states it's about 96 or 97%. It could be a lot lower if the NHS becomes overwhelmed and people can't be treated. There will be also indirect deaths if people can't be treated for other conditions.
SecretWitch · 17/03/2020 15:16
From somewhere “in the rest of the world, all public and private schools closed until at least April 7, all bars, restaurants and cafes are closed to seated service ( take away and pick up only), public transportation is being curtailed, shops are shortening their hours, many many businesses are closing their doors including gyms and salons.
My eldest daughter is very afraid as she is a direct contact service provider and her business has laced off everyone but her. My husband works for the state in an emergency capacity, every non essential employee (of which he is not) has been told to stay home indefinitely
This situation is very frightening for people who work paycheck to paycheck. My daughter was in tears trying to figure out how she will pay for her bills. Fortunately, we are in a position to help her but many of her friends are not so lucky.
SnoozyLou · 17/03/2020 15:17
I think when the PM is doing daily live broadcasts and we're being advised not to travel, initially abroad but quite possibly just down the road soon, any sane person would have a bit of an alarm bell ringing. Mind you, some people still think they're going on holiday in May. Each to their own.
lazylinguist · 17/03/2020 15:18
I feel like people actually want me to catch it, for some reason, to reach me a lesson or something.
This is an example of you lashing out. What a horrible thing to accuse people of!
OP: Everyone on MN is making an excessive fuss about CV. Nobody in real life thinks it's that bad.
Almost all posters: No, it is really bad. Here are the very good reasons why.
OP: Waaah! You are all mean and want me to get CV!
If we wanted you to get CV, we'd be saying "Nope it's fine! Go to lots of parties and lick doorknobs!". But we're saying take it seriously and obey the advice, so that you don't catch it!
woodchuck99 · 17/03/2020 15:19
Anyone who thinks people who are concerned are "hysterical" needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Do you really think you know better than the scientists and other experts?
maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on_coronavirus_measures.pdf
IvinghoeBeacon · 17/03/2020 15:19
“Is it reasonable not to go into work if niether you, nor anyone you associate with has any symptoms?“
Take it up with the govt and my employer if you think not, who have decided that as a pregnant woman I should be working from home based on their own risk assessments. Did you listen to the announcements just before 5pm last night? It covered all this stuff
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