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UK ban on Palestine Action unlawful, high court judges rule

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purpletablet · 13/02/2026 13:29

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/13/uk-ban-palestine-action-unlawful-high-court-judges-rule

Does this mean people will no longer be arrested for holding up a sign saying “I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action”?

UK ban on Palestine Action unlawful, high court judges rule

Protest group’s co-founder wins legal challenge against decision to proscribe it under anti-terrorism laws

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/13/uk-ban-palestine-action-unlawful-high-court-judges-rule

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IloveOwlsandPenguins · 14/02/2026 09:51

Stirabout · 14/02/2026 02:11

Well said
and so pleased the definition of terrorism has not been eroded
Once Governments, such as ours, go out of their way to erode free speech and shut down demonstrations by shouting terrorist it’s a slippery slope

We really didn’t need to go this far to prove that the definition for terrorism had not been met. Anyone who could read could see that
The law has prevailed

Meanwhile
I see the derailings have already started. 🤣🤣 anything to try to overshadow some good news for once

Agree completely

noblegiraffe · 14/02/2026 09:57

People saying the definition for terrorism hadn't been met clearly haven't read what the judge said when they said that Palestine Action had committed acts of terrorism.

I hope those saying this is a good ruling put their hands in their pockets and pay for the criminal damage this group cause because I'm fucking pissed off that taxpayers are paying for their terrorism.

IloveOwlsandPenguins · 14/02/2026 09:59

ReturnOfTheToad · 14/02/2026 08:21

I just saw a video by Amnesty of outside the court yesterday and seeing all of the elderly 'terrorists' celebrating was just so lovely. So many women who peacefully stood firm for what they believe in, a big well done to them.

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Agree completely

inamarina · 14/02/2026 10:06

noblegiraffe · 14/02/2026 09:13

I saw a clip of a video yesterday with one of the women who broke into Elbit Systems, where they attacked the security guard and a police officer's spine was broken with a sledgehammer. She was tearfully describing it as a terrible day because they hadn't expected any security guards or police to turn up when they were smashing up millions of pounds worth of equipment.

Terrorist or not, they are fucking idiots.

I saw that clip too. Such a terrible day for the poor lamb, much worse than for the policewoman one of them attacked with a sledgehammer 🙄

SharonEllis · 14/02/2026 10:37

inamarina · 14/02/2026 10:06

I saw that clip too. Such a terrible day for the poor lamb, much worse than for the policewoman one of them attacked with a sledgehammer 🙄

I was going to say, it's bonkers. But it's worse than that. These people are dangerous in their lack of empathy and critical thinking.

HappyFace2025 · 14/02/2026 10:38

purpletablet · 13/02/2026 21:48

You want them to delete a factual post?

There is no Zionist lobby. Your post is not factually correct. @MNHQ

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 10:43

So who paid Labour friends of Israel if not the Zionist lobby?

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 10:44

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet
Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet

Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/

HappyFace2025 · 14/02/2026 10:48

I assume that theres a lot of relevant info that the public have no idea of.

Exactly what I determined from my Pro Pal Labour MP when she wrote to me after the vote which was overwhelming in support of proscription.

SharonEllis · 14/02/2026 10:50

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 10:43

So who paid Labour friends of Israel if not the Zionist lobby?

What is 'the zionist lobby' that you are referring to on this sentence? Is it an organisation with a bank account?

HappyFace2025 · 14/02/2026 10:56

IloveOwlsandPenguins · 14/02/2026 09:50

Well - in 2015 our lovely politicians voted en masse that no one should be allowed to give any evidence they had of elite paedophile activity ( in confidence ) to the Parliamentary Enquiry into Elite Child Abuse Rings if they were bound by the official secrets act .

Would appear not always decent with the voting in our HoC sometimes .

WTF has that got to do with the issue in question? Ten years ago a completely different government covered up what was happening re paedophile gangs. Nothing to do with the current government proscribing a group of people terrorising others while thinking their efforts make a blind bit of difference to the people of Palestine, other than Hamas.

noblegiraffe · 14/02/2026 10:57

Even Jeremy Corbyn conceded that antisemites use Zionist as a codeword for Jew.

When you switch 'the Zionist Lobby are controlling the government' for 'Jews are controlling the government', bearing in mind that antisemites use Zionist as a codeword for Jews so it's perfectly reasonable to see what happens when you make this switch, it's EXACTLY the same as the bog standard antisemitic conspiracy theory. This should make people hesitate before spreading it, don't you think?

HappyFace2025 · 14/02/2026 10:59

Labour Friends of Israel supports a negotiated two-state solution for two peoples; with Israel safe, secure and recognised within its borders; living alongside a viable, democratic and independent Palestinian state.

LFI’s work is supported by the generosity of members of the Jewish community and those who share our commitment to the State of Israel. LFI does not receive any money from the Israeli government or the Israeli Embassy, nor does LFI make donations to Labour MPs. Labour MPs who participate in LFI delegations to Israel and the Palestinian Territories declare the value of those trips to the Electoral Commission and in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. This information is publicly available and it is in line with the practice adopted by other similar organisations.

SharonEllis · 14/02/2026 10:59

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 10:44

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet
Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders

I wonder if you have any idea how the world works? Could you tell is how much the UK government spends a year on influencing other countries? Or perhaps how much say Saudi or Qatar, or France or the US spends a year on 'influencing' UK lawmakers and government? Im sure you know all this because I'm sure you wouldn't only focus your concern on 'Zionists'. Can you tell us how often you hear of the 'German Lobby' or the 'Spanish Lobby'? Yet the Zionist Lobby trips off the tongue so easily it seems. Im a Zionist, do my letters to my MP count?

purpletablet · 14/02/2026 11:09

When I talk about the Zionist lobby (often called the Israel lobby), I’m referring to the network of advocacy groups, donors, and political organisations that work to maintain strong Western support for the Israeli state, particularly in the US and the UK. It is not a single unified body, but its overall political influence is hard to ignore.

From a critical perspective, a few things stand out:

• Purpose and Strategy
The core goal is to secure political, military, and diplomatic backing for Israel. This is done through lobbying, campaign funding, media engagement, and organised opposition to movements like BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions). Critics argue that this influence does more than promote a viewpoint. It can shape what is considered acceptable debate.

• Major Organisations
Groups often mentioned include AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee), Christians United for Israel (CUFI), and the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. These groups operate legally within democratic systems, but critics point to their resources, access, and ability to apply political pressure.

• Influence and Political Risk
Lobbying itself is normal in politics. The concern raised by critics is the imbalance of influence. Supporting Israel is often politically safe. Strong criticism of Israeli government policies can carry professional, reputational, or electoral consequences. That dynamic can discourage open discussion.

• Chilling Effect
There are repeated examples of politicians, journalists, academics, and activists facing intense backlash after criticising Israeli policy. The issue critics highlight is not disagreement, but the scale and coordination of responses that can make certain positions feel risky to express.

• Structural Power, Not Conspiracy
This is not about secret control or hidden coordination. It is about how concentrated funding, lobbying power, and institutional alignment can shape discourse and policy outcomes. That concern applies to any powerful lobbying network.

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dairydebris · 14/02/2026 11:17

purpletablet · 14/02/2026 11:09

When I talk about the Zionist lobby (often called the Israel lobby), I’m referring to the network of advocacy groups, donors, and political organisations that work to maintain strong Western support for the Israeli state, particularly in the US and the UK. It is not a single unified body, but its overall political influence is hard to ignore.

From a critical perspective, a few things stand out:

• Purpose and Strategy
The core goal is to secure political, military, and diplomatic backing for Israel. This is done through lobbying, campaign funding, media engagement, and organised opposition to movements like BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions). Critics argue that this influence does more than promote a viewpoint. It can shape what is considered acceptable debate.

• Major Organisations
Groups often mentioned include AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee), Christians United for Israel (CUFI), and the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. These groups operate legally within democratic systems, but critics point to their resources, access, and ability to apply political pressure.

• Influence and Political Risk
Lobbying itself is normal in politics. The concern raised by critics is the imbalance of influence. Supporting Israel is often politically safe. Strong criticism of Israeli government policies can carry professional, reputational, or electoral consequences. That dynamic can discourage open discussion.

• Chilling Effect
There are repeated examples of politicians, journalists, academics, and activists facing intense backlash after criticising Israeli policy. The issue critics highlight is not disagreement, but the scale and coordination of responses that can make certain positions feel risky to express.

• Structural Power, Not Conspiracy
This is not about secret control or hidden coordination. It is about how concentrated funding, lobbying power, and institutional alignment can shape discourse and policy outcomes. That concern applies to any powerful lobbying network.

Can you tell is in your own words, preferably in an easy to understand way, why you feel there is something untoward ( or whatever word you'd use ) about groups lobbying in support of the State of Israel?

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 11:22

For me it's because Israel has illegal West Bank settlements and are killing Palestinians (including aiming to shoot children in the head) and imprisoning children without trial.

noblegiraffe · 14/02/2026 11:23

"When I talk about the Zionist Lobby controlling the government, I try very hard to ignore the fact that it's an antisemitic conspiracy theory"

HappyFace2025 · 14/02/2026 11:25

SpringIsCome · 14/02/2026 11:22

For me it's because Israel has illegal West Bank settlements and are killing Palestinians (including aiming to shoot children in the head) and imprisoning children without trial.

I hope you feel the same about Hamas' treatment of Palestinians? www.algemeiner.com/2026/02/13/doctors-without-borders-admits-gaza-hospital-used-militants-halts-operations/

quantumbutterfly · 14/02/2026 11:29

SharonEllis · 14/02/2026 10:50

What is 'the zionist lobby' that you are referring to on this sentence? Is it an organisation with a bank account?

I thought it might be some sort of reception room with a coffee machine and comfy chairs.
There'll probably be cheesecakes and doughnuts from what I've heard. Sounds nice.

purpletablet · 14/02/2026 11:35

dairydebris · 14/02/2026 11:17

Can you tell is in your own words, preferably in an easy to understand way, why you feel there is something untoward ( or whatever word you'd use ) about groups lobbying in support of the State of Israel?

I’m generally critical of lobbying because I think it gives disproportionate influence to organised groups with money and access. That’s my issue with the Israel lobby. When any lobbying network becomes highly influential, it can shape what feels politically safe to say. In this case, strong support for Israel often carries little risk, while sustained criticism of Israeli government policies can bring reputational or professional consequences. That dynamic can discourage open discussion and makes it harder to have a balanced debate about Israeli actions and Palestinian rights.

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noblegiraffe · 14/02/2026 11:40

When people claim that you can't criticise the Israeli government or its policies I wonder what planet they are living on.

quantumbutterfly · 14/02/2026 11:44

purpletablet · 14/02/2026 11:35

I’m generally critical of lobbying because I think it gives disproportionate influence to organised groups with money and access. That’s my issue with the Israel lobby. When any lobbying network becomes highly influential, it can shape what feels politically safe to say. In this case, strong support for Israel often carries little risk, while sustained criticism of Israeli government policies can bring reputational or professional consequences. That dynamic can discourage open discussion and makes it harder to have a balanced debate about Israeli actions and Palestinian rights.

Oh I see, those well meaning supporters of a proscribed group responsible for breaking into military sites, compromising national security, causing criminal damage and fracturing a supine policewoman's spine are actually stunning and brave, even though other ways of supporting Palestinian statehood are available, (even supported by the labour friends of Israel according to pp).

Cool.

Stirabout · 14/02/2026 12:25

From the news today confusion as to ‘what now’ continues

This from The Independent

‘ Outside of the Royal Courts of Justice, there was confusion between Metropolitan Police officers and activists as dozens of people carried signs that read “I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action”.

Activist Grace Lally asked two liaison officers if it was illegal to hold the sign, with the officers replying: “We can ask”.

People charged with supporting the group said they feel in “limbo” after the High Court decision. Angie Zelter, 74, said she faces charges over holding a placard at demonstrations last year and is due at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

We’ll have to wait and see how Magistrates deal with forthcoming cases. One was cancelled yesterday, there’s another and Monday and this on Tuesday. So we’ll know soon enough.

I assume they’ll all be put back but anyone held in prison whilst awaiting trial for supporting PA as a terrorist group when that bar has ( for now ) been classed as not met I would expect to be put on bail.

Well wait and see.

1457bloom · 14/02/2026 12:27

A victory for Freedom of Speech. This government needs to put an end to lobbying. Policy should not be influenced by donations any more. It’s not democratic.