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Why is it harder to conceive older?

42 replies

Itsbrtnybish · 27/12/2024 14:17

Is it because you are born with a Finite amount of eggs? So as you age you have less?
What if you’ve a high ovarian reserve just generally speaking and for your age? Does that mean it won’t be harder?

what about if you’re of advanced maternal age (say 36) but youre healthy (weight and health conditions), don’t smoke, take supplements for egg quality and have a high AMH? does that mean you’ve redressed the balance or are there other things at play?

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Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 11:37

Mumontherunn · 28/12/2024 11:08

Is your partner taking supplements too? Has he had his sperm checked? We assumed my DH was fine but after a year realised his numbers were so so low. Two months on supplements and they’re now better than normal for his age

What supplements did your husband take?

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Mrsttcno1 · 28/12/2024 11:39

Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 10:50

Reading this I kind of feel hopeless.

ive taken coq10 for 5 months, vit c and omegas.

i should’ve tried for # 3 sooner.

are there any tests for egg quality?

No there isn’t a way to test egg quality really other than to try and fertilise that egg and if it does fertilise then you can genetically test it.

lemontreeeverystreet · 28/12/2024 11:44

@Itsbrtnybish if it means anything....there's a thread on Mumsnet called 47 and pregnant! So...
It's a wide spectrum.

Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 11:50

Mrsttcno1 · 28/12/2024 11:39

No there isn’t a way to test egg quality really other than to try and fertilise that egg and if it does fertilise then you can genetically test it.

Yeah and we don’t really want to go down that route, I’m quite distrustful of private ivf practitioners, in my experience they try to sell sell sell so likely would be told we’d need ivf plus icsi and full genetic kareotyping (again)

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Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 11:51

lemontreeeverystreet · 28/12/2024 11:44

@Itsbrtnybish if it means anything....there's a thread on Mumsnet called 47 and pregnant! So...
It's a wide spectrum.

I suppose and my own mother had me (eldest at 36) and my sibling at 40/41

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curliegirlie · 28/12/2024 12:46

TammyBundleballs · 28/12/2024 00:32

I didn’t even give the prospect of having a child any consideration until I was 40. I then accepted that statistically it was unlikely to be successful but decided I’d like to try and see what happens. I eventually did fall pregnant naturally and had DS at 43.

I have a number of friends and acquaintances who also had their first DC at 40+. As time has passed more and more and have confided in me that they used various IVF methods including frozen eggs, donor eggs, donor sperm etc. I’ve no issues with any of that but what it has taught me is that you should be wary of assuming that the majority of these older mothers conceived naturally. A lot of people keep quiet about the methods used which I think is a shame but is of course personal choice.

I know of several who have spent 50k+ to get to their desired end result.

I think it would be better all round if people understood the facts better as it would help both planning and also to manage expectations.

I also know a large people who conceived in their 40s - including many family members where I know for definite they would have been natural conceptions and weren't sneaky adoptions - and it's so frustrating that they all managed to conceive against the odds, whereas I seem to be firmly stuck at the 95% chance of not conceiving 😕. I had a tough time TTC my two daughters so it shouldn't be any surprise that my luck has now run out, but I guess I was hoping that luck just may be on my side for one (third time's a charm and all that....)

user2848502016 · 28/12/2024 14:21

Remember sperm quality deteriorates with age too so conception can take longer because you need a healthy, chromosomally normal egg and sperm to meet

Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 16:05

user2848502016 · 28/12/2024 14:21

Remember sperm quality deteriorates with age too so conception can take longer because you need a healthy, chromosomally normal egg and sperm to meet

But doesn’t that drop off happen later for men, around 40?

plus if his analysis was fine?

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Mrsttcno1 · 28/12/2024 16:28

Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 16:05

But doesn’t that drop off happen later for men, around 40?

plus if his analysis was fine?

There’s lots of different studies done on this, lots say it typically starts to decline in men from around age 30-35 with the best years being 20-29, a study done showed that 18-28% of men age 35-40 were unable to achieve pregnancy within 12 months of trying.

It’s all a game of chance really OP. It’s the tedious and frustrating thing about TTC, anything else you try to do you would have better chances the more times you try, you’d get better at it, improve at it etc, but with trying to conceive every month you’ve got the same chance as you had the month before. It’s such a mental battle and is really hard. I would honestly say as much as you can just keep yourselves healthy and try not to overwhelm yourself with information because the reality is there’s very little you can do about it, it is life’s lottery in a lot of ways. Good luck x

GrimDamnFanjo · 28/12/2024 17:09

OP are you monitoring your own cycle? Can you recognise when you are at your most fertile?
I had secondary infertility, I have a significant age gap and losses between children. I found monitoring my cycle very helpful.
Internal scar tissue removal and clomid helped me to conceive eventually.
I'd get monitoring and timing intercourse, if no joy in a few months, and if more children are very important to you both, then get a private referral for further tests.
Be aware that this not an easy path and already having children will mean there is no nhs treatments available to you.

HoundsOfHelfire · 28/12/2024 17:12

poorer egg maturity due to hormonal changes?

Ladybyrd · 28/12/2024 17:15

I had my first baby at 39 and second at 42. Two miscarriages in between. I had no issues conceiving - usually happened first time - but sadly they didn't all stick. I've always eaten well, would have registered as mildly overweight when I stated. Smoked heavily for 20 years. I'm told I look young, only have a few grey hairs at 47. I think a lot is down to genetics and it's the luck of the draw.

HoundsOfHelfire · 28/12/2024 17:17

The day 21 progesterone test results can highlight egg maturity/hormonal issues.

Conceived first child easily but took 3 years and one round of a tablet called clomid to conceive second child.

Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 17:20

HoundsOfHelfire · 28/12/2024 17:17

The day 21 progesterone test results can highlight egg maturity/hormonal issues.

Conceived first child easily but took 3 years and one round of a tablet called clomid to conceive second child.

I had this issue with my first from the nhs but obviously this depends on when you ovulated, it caused a lot stress but later I’ve learned that test at specifically 21 days is only really useful if you’ve a 28 day cycle

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Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 17:24

HoundsOfHelfire · 28/12/2024 17:12

poorer egg maturity due to hormonal changes?

The dr who ran my tests didn’t seem to think so, I’ve had amh, lh v fsh, estraidol, thyroid, testosterone checked and a test 7 dpo all fine

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Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 17:25

Mrsttcno1 · 28/12/2024 16:28

There’s lots of different studies done on this, lots say it typically starts to decline in men from around age 30-35 with the best years being 20-29, a study done showed that 18-28% of men age 35-40 were unable to achieve pregnancy within 12 months of trying.

It’s all a game of chance really OP. It’s the tedious and frustrating thing about TTC, anything else you try to do you would have better chances the more times you try, you’d get better at it, improve at it etc, but with trying to conceive every month you’ve got the same chance as you had the month before. It’s such a mental battle and is really hard. I would honestly say as much as you can just keep yourselves healthy and try not to overwhelm yourself with information because the reality is there’s very little you can do about it, it is life’s lottery in a lot of ways. Good luck x

Very true.

this btw was where I read 40 from (also echoed by the fertility dr we saw)

www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/fei/at-what-age-does-fertility-begin-to-decrease/#:~:text=Men%20produce%20sperm%20daily.,sex%20and%20have%20an%20ejaculation.

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Itsbrtnybish · 28/12/2024 17:28

GrimDamnFanjo · 28/12/2024 17:09

OP are you monitoring your own cycle? Can you recognise when you are at your most fertile?
I had secondary infertility, I have a significant age gap and losses between children. I found monitoring my cycle very helpful.
Internal scar tissue removal and clomid helped me to conceive eventually.
I'd get monitoring and timing intercourse, if no joy in a few months, and if more children are very important to you both, then get a private referral for further tests.
Be aware that this not an easy path and already having children will mean there is no nhs treatments available to you.

Yeah I’m on it with my cycle, track bbt, opks and cm.

we’ve had all the initial tests and we’re just told that it can take 1 sometimes take 2 years

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