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Year round Nigel Slater discussion thread - Part 3

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 18/11/2025 18:35

Hello, all and welcome to this lovely space for our continued chats.

A bit of background for anyone not familiar with this topic:
The Nigel Slater Christmas Chronicles readalong usually takes place here between November and February each year (the Christmas Chronicles being a book written by Nigel Slater full of winter recipes and anecdotes) It's been running for a few years, and the contributors have collectively decided it would be nice to have it running all year round.

So here it is. It is a place to appreciate all things Nigel-esque. Think seasonal food and recipes, enjoyment of nature, gardening, appreciation of the weather, and sharing of news and small moments of joy. It's a calm, cosy space for gentle chat and merriment so pull up a chair to the fireplace, grab a drink and relax.

A very hearty welcome to friends new and old!

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thebabessavedme · 07/03/2026 10:35

This thread and everyone on it sooths my soul, what wonderful interesting women you all are!

I'm having a truly rotten week, after my shift last Saturday I was laid off on Sunday, the pub is going under, I feel very sorry for them but also a bit sorry for myself, with our 'New Regime' I need to work and to find work at my age is near impossible. Hey Ho, I'll keep plugging away, just feeling bit bruised right now.

Much Love to All

DameProfessorIDareSay · 07/03/2026 11:00

I was sad to see my last garden daffodil wither, they have all gone over now but the tulips have good leaves, something to look forward too.
My local church still has a spectacular display though and there are loads along the roadsides too. I was looking back at some older pictures on my phone and my daffs were still in full bloom at this time a couple of years ago so mine have been very early indeed this year.

The photo of the Worm Moon was taken by a local photographer (whose name escapes me atm) not me, but I thought it was worth sharing.

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DameProfessorIDareSay · 07/03/2026 11:06

Here are the church daffoldils:

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 07/03/2026 11:56

thebabessavedme · 07/03/2026 10:35

This thread and everyone on it sooths my soul, what wonderful interesting women you all are!

I'm having a truly rotten week, after my shift last Saturday I was laid off on Sunday, the pub is going under, I feel very sorry for them but also a bit sorry for myself, with our 'New Regime' I need to work and to find work at my age is near impossible. Hey Ho, I'll keep plugging away, just feeling bit bruised right now.

Much Love to All

Oh no, bloody hell babe that is rubbish news. Sending gentle hugs to you and hoping something else - and better - is around the corner my lovely.

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SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense · 07/03/2026 11:59

DameProfessorIDareSay · 07/03/2026 11:00

I was sad to see my last garden daffodil wither, they have all gone over now but the tulips have good leaves, something to look forward too.
My local church still has a spectacular display though and there are loads along the roadsides too. I was looking back at some older pictures on my phone and my daffs were still in full bloom at this time a couple of years ago so mine have been very early indeed this year.

The photo of the Worm Moon was taken by a local photographer (whose name escapes me atm) not me, but I thought it was worth sharing.

What a fabulous photo. I think that is what DD3 was hoping for but unfortunately she was armed only with my (elderly) phone so disappointed.
I have a wormery too @sueelleker so I can probably help a bit, although I am not a pro with it - I just keep them fed then take out the compost and spread it around my plants a bit! (And, yes, collect the liquid from time to time. I hadn't thought of giving it away, it hadn't occurred to me that anybody might want it). My composter is designed with a tap at the bottom so that's an easy answer to how do they collect it. I think it is more rainwater that has filtered through the compost than actual worm wee but I'm happy to be corrected on that. I dilute it down and use it to water my plants. I'm pretty sure it is full of nutrients as it is quite dark in colour.
This has reminded me of when DD2 was little - in reception or maybe Y1. They were talking about what pets they all had and she proudly put her hand up and proclaimed I've got worms!! I don't know how the teacher kept a straight face - the TA was a friend of mine and he certainly didn't when he told me afterwards.

EphemeraleEudemonia · 07/03/2026 12:01

I think dwelling under the same moon and stars wherever we are and especially if we've had to move across the world, and become diaspora, always along with the sun, fire, and food, is what holds cultures, family and friends together when apart, and why food and festivals matter so much to us. But also when we discover other cultures who hold those same things as important even with very different reasons, it gives us a way to be with, and learn about and understand each other and go to each others gatherings and become community regardless of the many things that might divide us.

@DameProfessorIDareSay They have been very early this year. That photograph is absolutely beautiful! Are you able to say roughly where it was taken?

@thebabessavedme So sorry, there's a lot of it about. In various ways we're in quite similar boats.
I'm scrabbling around trying to set some/any things up on nothing, in the hope of a living of any sort evolving from it, with disability and age working against me, and others dangling possibilities, then pulling the rug out, because so much hot air and uncertainty in the world, and no one's interested in employing me. Precarious living.

@LillianGish Finding big skies in cities is always challenging, and yet we do all build maps of where we can see those things we know we need.

@martha79 I love that you got your first moon tattoo for that reason. I know technically it probably is, but I wouldn't consider tirimisu a rubbish diet. Fingers crossed for Monday for you.

@sueelleker Worm wee is what people call the liquid that should collect at the bottom of any wormery. It's a liquid full of nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, minerals and enzymes as a result of the process of them breaking down food, that you then dilute (between 1-10 and 1-5 dependent on strength) and use as fertilizer, along with castings. (1- 4) You can be scientific and use litmus paper, or just sniff testing when diluting. What they produce can revolutionize poor soil and build better soil.
How much is gathered depends on how and why you keep your worms.

Some keep them captive, and overfeed them which produces large quantities of liquid that people sell.
Many use a stacked tub system so the lowest tub collects the liquid.
The system I've built is domestic and is just harnessing what they naturally do and aiding them partly for our benefit, partly for theirs and the planets, same as our bees, and 'not our' chickens. Our wormery allows for excess liquid collection with a tray system in the centre at the bottom but surrounded by the grounds soil, so they have the freedom to travel out of the wormery and take up residence in the garden soil as they please and come back if there are insufficient microbes and nemetodes at any point. Generally the majority should want to stay so if lots start leaving it tells you conditions aren't right for them and you need to adjust them.

A lack of liquid production tells you the worms have insufficient moisture to manage, a large quantity usually means a commercial operation, given away on freecycle probably someone with a tub system sharing what they don't they need.

@piscofrisco It is so hard when you want them to spread their wings, but miss them nesting too.

I'm not Muslim but several friends are (though with often very different practices from each other) and it's Ramadan so while it's not our celebration, sharing it is so food wise it's effectively Iftar season with the need to feed and bring food.

Some Higgidy knock offs: dandelion, cheese and carrot cakes, and tofu, mushroom and pesto pies, and wraps made from the cake slices, falafel, pickled tomatoes, red cabbage, rice and herbs and held together with courgette hummus, which is basically the recipe @RainbowZebraWarrior posted with a dash of oat milk and oil added and worked really well.

EphemeraleEudemonia · 07/03/2026 12:02

It would help to attach the pic!

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DameProfessorIDareSay · 07/03/2026 12:53

It’s my local church in Dorset @EphemeraleEudemonia and the moon photo was taken over the Cobb in Lyme Regis so that gives you a roughly 30 mile radius of where I am 🙂

Sorry to hear your news @thebabessavedme

All this moon talk reminded me of one of my favourite songs, Sleeping Satellite by Tasmin Archer, though having just listened to it for the first time in ages, the lyrics are quite dark 😕

genius.com/Tasmin-archer-sleeping-satellite-lyrics

RainbowZebraWarrior · 07/03/2026 14:31

DameProfessorIDareSay · 07/03/2026 12:53

It’s my local church in Dorset @EphemeraleEudemonia and the moon photo was taken over the Cobb in Lyme Regis so that gives you a roughly 30 mile radius of where I am 🙂

Sorry to hear your news @thebabessavedme

All this moon talk reminded me of one of my favourite songs, Sleeping Satellite by Tasmin Archer, though having just listened to it for the first time in ages, the lyrics are quite dark 😕

genius.com/Tasmin-archer-sleeping-satellite-lyrics

That's also one of my favourite songs and was a karaoke staple of mine back in the day.

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ExquisiteDresses · 07/03/2026 15:03

Afternoon all, just been catching up. thank you for sharing your experience with the moon and the Grenfell fire @EphemeraleEudemonia that is very moving.

I’m sorry about the job @thebabessavedme I hope something else comes along but it is difficult at the moment.

@martha79 hope the GP appt is useful, I do think long covid sufferers have been left high and dry in most cases.

Lots of lovely photos and thoughts everyone. Magnolias are out here but I’ve only seen them when driving so no photos yet. Haven’t spotted any wild garlic yet but I do usually make and freeze a batch of wild garlic pesto every year. Actually, I’d forgotten, I’ve got some in a pot in the garden must go and see if it has emerged yet. Don’t dare put it in the ground as it is very invasive. We do get a lot of it in places round here, I went for a dawn walk last year (about 5.30) through a woods that is absolutely carpeted with it but it was a bit of a drive away, near my parents, might have to go again, so beautiful, here’s a photo from last year

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martha79 · 07/03/2026 15:32

I'm so sorry about your job news @thebabessavedme - keeping my fingers crossed that something turns up soon.

Great song @DameProfessorIDareSay and great photos.

I can just imagine the teacher trying not to laugh @SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense

@EphemeraleEudemonia the tiramisu was excellent but I can't remember when I last had a vegetable!

Thanks for the kind thoughts re GP etc - I think I've been lucky with her, and the local provision seems good, the clinic seem very up on the latest research.

Have pottered in the garden, pruned my hydrangea (not a euphemism). Even more things have started to flower - I like the fluffy buds which are on the amelanchier before it flowers. I think the red thing is a variety of quince, although it doesn't produce fruit.

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 07/03/2026 17:09

martha79 · 07/03/2026 15:32

I'm so sorry about your job news @thebabessavedme - keeping my fingers crossed that something turns up soon.

Great song @DameProfessorIDareSay and great photos.

I can just imagine the teacher trying not to laugh @SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense

@EphemeraleEudemonia the tiramisu was excellent but I can't remember when I last had a vegetable!

Thanks for the kind thoughts re GP etc - I think I've been lucky with her, and the local provision seems good, the clinic seem very up on the latest research.

Have pottered in the garden, pruned my hydrangea (not a euphemism). Even more things have started to flower - I like the fluffy buds which are on the amelanchier before it flowers. I think the red thing is a variety of quince, although it doesn't produce fruit.

Yes, the red flower is an ornamental quince (Chaenomeles), which is a non edible version of a quince. I had one trained up against a fence in my house about 25 years ago. It actually did produce fruit one year, around 10 yrs after I planted it.

I saw my lovely little field mouse again about 20 mins ago. It was at the bottom of the garden, and I tried to get a pic, but a collared dove scared him off. Just saw him / her again now scaling a tree and checking out the remains of an old blackbird nest from last year. Got a pic this time. Such a cutie.

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noodlezoodle · 07/03/2026 21:57

Lovely photos and updates, everyone. Our magnolias are also out, and it’s the beginning of the season for Pride of Madeiras, which are the most glorious colour and bloom for quite a while in spring.

Edited to add that I've really enjoyed all the moon chat. In a similar spirit I thought this group might like small seasons which are 24 microseasons used in China and Japan before the Gregorian calendar. I'm sure the timings are not consistent with other countries but I still love reading about them.

Oh good grief, edited about 3 more times because the link won't stick: smallseasons.guide/

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thebabessavedme · 07/03/2026 22:00

beautiful photo @RainbowZebraWarrior what a dear little creature.

thebabessavedme · 07/03/2026 22:05

Many thanks for the good wishes re my job, just feeling a little sorry for myself just now. My life has been very lovely for many years now ( after several mis-starts) just finding it hard to adjust, I will adjust, I'm a strong personality, can take the rough with smooth but my goodness, the change in our fortunes is immense and I'm knocking on a bit.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 08/03/2026 07:33

thebabessavedme · 07/03/2026 22:05

Many thanks for the good wishes re my job, just feeling a little sorry for myself just now. My life has been very lovely for many years now ( after several mis-starts) just finding it hard to adjust, I will adjust, I'm a strong personality, can take the rough with smooth but my goodness, the change in our fortunes is immense and I'm knocking on a bit.

That sounds really tough, and I'm not surprised your are finding it so hard. Yes, you will adapt and adjust - as you already have - and yes you are strong, but it's OK to feel sad, angry and frustrated. It's ok to feel that life has been unfair at this point.

We will always be here in this little corner of MN, willing you on.

A very happy International womens day to you and all of the incredible women on this thread.

❤️

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thebabessavedme · 08/03/2026 08:42

@RainbowZebraWarrior Thank you x

piscofrisco · 08/03/2026 09:06

So sorry to hear about your job @thebabessavedme. Life can give you such a kicking at times-it’s bloody unfair.
Happy International Women’s day to us all.
And I note it’s also Covid Memorial Day. I don’t think enough gets made of this really. Thinking of you especially today @martha79and also of all the lovely colleagues I worked in my nursing homes with during Covid, a time so stressful that my hair began to fall out.
A dear and murky day here filled with ferrying DSS’s to football and cooking for the weeks and other such boredom.
as predicted going ‘home’ for the night has made me very homesick. It was so lovely to see my friends. I shan’t go again for a while as it doesn’t help me mentally on balance it seems.
That said I’ve a nice week coming up-two days at work, then I’m going to see DD in Bristol (we are going to see The Vaccines) and on Friday DH and I are due to go to Marrakesh. This is a trip that has been booked and rescheduled 3 times due to various disasters involving poorly children, Dogs with broken legs and my lovely Dad being poorly before he died, so I will believe it only when we get there!
A lovely restful Sunday to all

martha79 · 08/03/2026 09:35

@thebabessavedme you are absolutely right to feel sorry for yourself, it's a horrible thing to deal with.

Happy International Women's Day to all you wonderful women.

And thanks @piscofrisco - I thought about going to the gathering at the COVID memorial in town here, but it's a bit far (and honestly, probably emotionally too much). Weirdly, social media memories have reminded me that a year ago today, I was feeling rough after a busy week at work and a couple of long runs at the weekend - I then came down with a horrible lurgy. Tested negative for COVID, but several of my colleagues had the same symptoms and positive tests. I don't think I was ever really quite right after that - I did a lot of pushing through feeling just 'weird', lots of anxiety (especially when I was out running - irrationally feeling unsafe which I now think was my body telling me something), trying to figure out if I was perimenopausal and HRT not entirely helping. I think October's definitely-COVID may have been a tipping point rather than the start of it all.

Anyway, I am going to attempt to pause thinking about all of that for the rest of today and take a walk to the city farm to see the many baby goats who have emerged this week!

SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense · 08/03/2026 09:53

@noodlezoodleI have lived in both Japan and China and people still talk about the small seasons. I haven’t heard them by name as such but there is definitely a belief that things change every 2 weeks. Makes sense to me
Your pride of Madeira is lovely! I don’t think I’ve ever seen them
Definitely rooting for you @thebabessavedme- have a good wallow for a bit, it is part of the process. Rubbish.
Happy international women’s day to you all

martha79 · 08/03/2026 10:58

Goats! And other signs of spring (birdsong from standing on my front doorstep) 🙂

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EphemeraleEudemonia · 08/03/2026 11:04

Happy international women's day to you all. We have a saying: 'It is women's hands that build.'
Grey and staying that way, but at least it's not bucketing down. Lots of catching up to try and do. Yesterday got hijacked by the discovery my new workshop 'enterprise' which was being so encouraged, and I was being asked to expand, is actually potentially about to be closed down, and trying to see if there was any way to save or relocate it. Decision Monday by the looks of it, but not looking good.

@noodlezoodle Someone else can probably explain this a bit better than me, but my understanding is the 24 point calendar in the link is the solar terms in a lunarsolar based calendar and originates from the Chinese 'Ten Thousand Year Calendar.'* * https://bazisifu.com/what-is-xiali

My very basic understanding is the 24 points connect to points 15 degrees apart on the ecliptic (Earth’s annual journey around the sun - a 360 degree circle)
It takes just over fifteen days for the sun to move from each point to the next with the sun needing 365 1/4 days to complete its cyclical journey. (leave the exact maths to those who can, this is just my rule of thumb ball park)
Each of the months of the year contains two points, but, because a lunar month has only 29 1/2 days and the two points cover that plus an extra 3/4's of a day, sometimes a lunar month doesn't actually contain both points, and then the insertion of of an extra month happens. Other cultures do similar with extra days or shortened months to try and make it all balance.

There was a position in the Chinese Imperial court of Calendar Master, who as far as I understand would be tasked with creating all sorts of methods to deal with the differences between the solar and lunar year using different formulas including eclipses and planetary events and experimental math's systems. They clearly had a lot more understanding of planetary systems than some cultures at the time, and where the writers of the almanacs of their day, but getting it wrong could be fatal for them. (Our 'magi seek the star' stories, (not three wise men, whole caravans and all that was needed to support them) note a calendar master as one of those traveling.)

@thebabessavedme I'm sorry you're going through it and I hope things do pick up for you and as @RainbowZebraWarrior has said it's ok to feel whatever is felt. It is also ok to have no money but enjoy others expensive acquisitions that are so VN. Hence I will show off my Higgedy knock offs and attempts at creating subtler scented candles based on some of the unobtainable for us luxuries that I am genuinely so glad to get to be part of hearing about and seeing and discussing regardless. (I will never forgive anyone who hides their 'Aerin savoy orange blossom candle' because I have come round and they are embarrassed at their ability to enjoy extravagance, instead of showing and telling me all about it's good or not so good points!)

As a family we never recovered from the loss of those around us, and what the Covid lockdowns did to us and all we'd created despite also mis-starts in life. To still be here was the best we could hold onto.
I was given my copy of CC by a lovely lady on these threads at a point where I couldn't consider the cost of even a 2nd hand copy, but had been previously silently reading this thread without joining in, and taking huge comfort from it and wanted to let the people on it know how much it meant to others quietly reading it in difficult times.

It's scary, but here we are, on what often feels like a long slide down as we continue to adapt to ongoing reducing circumstances in the face of where it's all left us, exacerbated by the current climate and an inability to become less disabled or younger, and have mainly returned to simpler ways and pleasures and are still seeking joy and appreciation wherever it can be found.
Listening to you, I'm willing to bet you will do more than adapt. x

@DameProfessorIDareSay thank you for that. It's a very beautiful view.

@SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense I wouldn't expect the liquid to be rainwater unless your system doesn't have a closed top... What I have is actually just a very adapted compost bin, but it's been really successful, lead to a second one, and now to ambitions to purpose build something better for both them and us.
How fab to have lived in both China and Japan!

@RainbowZebraWarrior Oh well done getting the picture, he/she is very neat.
And yet again; many thanks for all your work that holds us together here - again: 'It is women's hands that build,' and we also have ' It is such woman who gathers, makes thread, and then cloth, and brings into being substance.' 🙏

@martha79 Quietly envious of the ability to immerse yourself in baby goats. Have a lovely meeting with them. (while I was writing the rest of this you already had! They're lovely.)
(I just know that 'not a euphemism' is going to get me the next time someone starts talking about pruning their hydrangeas!)

@ExquisiteDresses Lovely picture. Our Ramsons colonise everything given half a chance. We're on a hill, and where one of a number of gardens in effectively a mass garden landslide here, and several neighbors gardens are now also being systematically colonized by all the bulbs that where scattered downwards.

@piscofrisco I didn't know today was Covid memorial day. Thank you as I'm sure there are others around me who will be very aware.
I remember your attempts to get to Marrakesh and what stopped you. Fingers well crossed for you.

Very little sleep but I seem to have a lot to say this morning!

SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense · 08/03/2026 12:40

@piscofrisco DDs 1 and 2 took themselves off to Marrakech in January and it looked wonderful, it’s now firmly on my (long) list. Hope you have an excellent, well-deserved time.
@martha79 every time I mention it (frequently) DH tells me I can’t have goats. To be fair we don’t recall have anywhere for them to live (spare bedroom?) but they are so personable and the paddock over the road from us is currently empty so I think we could come to an arrangement with the elderly neighbours. He’s also currently telling me I can’t adopt baby hares, on the strength of me having just read ‘Raising Hare’ by Chloe Dalton - such a beautiful book that I strongly recommend, and have a look at her gorgeous instagram too https://www.instagram.com/chloedaltonuk/
I’ve been in the garden this morning progressing the project of moving the rhubarb. I cannot believe how it has snowballed but it really can’t live in a wheelbarrow forever so today I have moved raspberries and fennel (it’s like musical chairs) and tarragon and a geranium, and filled in the massive hole the rhubarb came out of. Am planning for DH to dig a big hole where the raspberries were and get the rhubarb in there except of course it has started to rain now and he’s even more of a fair weather gardener than I am. I’m still having shoulder issues so big holes and heavy plants are being referred to him.

piscofrisco · 08/03/2026 13:06

Goats are very easy to keep. They just eat a lot (everything).

SheherazadesSeasonalNonsense · 08/03/2026 13:08

piscofrisco · 08/03/2026 13:06

Goats are very easy to keep. They just eat a lot (everything).

I will give him your number and you can tell him 🤣

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