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Progesterone in cows' milk

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PurpleMaman · 24/01/2009 19:52

Hi

I've come across some research which suggests that there are worrying levels of progesterone in cows milk, due to an increasing trend of milking cows during pregnancy. This trend has been linked to breast cancer and prostrate cancer (see links below). We've recently moved from formula & breast milk to cows milk for my 12 month old. I can't find any mention of this issue on the Department of Health's website, or NHS direct, or some of the charity cancer research websites (and I'm not convinced of the validity of the websites below). Does anyone know any more about this?

Thanks.

www.erieping.de/english.htm

www.eps1.comlink.ne.jp/~mayus/eng/

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cazboldy · 24/01/2009 21:50

it's more than some humans get....

zazen · 24/01/2009 21:51

The organically fed cows would not have such an unbalance in their own hormones as the chemically fed cows.

Cows are fed a variety of foods, organic grass and other organic foodstuffs would not increase a hormone in the milk.

Cows fed on animal products - high protein fish meal etc would have their own hormones out of balance and this would be reflected in the milk.

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 21:52

also...and this is from the much hated...you know who, you are not allowed to mention the name" book...and she actually says only get organic milk because other milk, the cows have been fedc all sorts of food, including meatproducts, such as offal, and of course cows are vegetarians!

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 21:53

it will depend....I'm no saying that the milk goes in the tank after 24 hours in every case, but we make sure the calves have their ownmother's milk for 24 hours for antibodies etc, as a pose to mixing it all up together and feeding it to all of the calves

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 21:54

that is rubbish....post bse, noone feeds offal or meat products, or fish protein other than cod liver oil or omega 3 maybe

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 21:55

hm...but that would not be the same...why can't calfs get their own mothers milk for whatever period of time they are meant to have it....naturally?

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 21:56

wel...that was something I remember from you know whos book...you might want to see about her changing that informatin!

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 21:56

zazen all cows are fed a diet of mainly forage i.e grass/maize/silage, any cereals will only make up a part of their diet, and as or he chemicals....which chemicals do you mean?

FiveGoMadInDorset · 24/01/2009 21:57

It is illegal

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 21:57

actually, that means then, that organic milk isn't rdeally that supirior anymore then? Because we tend to buy bog standard milk!

FiveGoMadInDorset · 24/01/2009 21:58

Nope

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 21:58

sadly most some cows are not maternal anymore.... also most cows will produce 50 or even 60 litres a day.... how is 1 calf going to drink that for 6 or 8 weeks?

Guadalupe · 24/01/2009 22:00

What makes them produce that much if they only have one calf to feed, is it that they have been milked lots during pregnancy so their body thinks there are lots of calves, or a very hungry one?

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 22:01

so...couldn't the calf hAVE THEIR SHARE?
ooopps, I hit caps lock, sorry!

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:01

no it is the way they have been bred

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:03

so you have 40 calves.... just think how complicated that would be ...... and who is going to stop the neighbour from pinching next doors milk instead of his own?

Guadalupe · 24/01/2009 22:04

This is very interesting.

I also felt quite sad on the farm, as did the other 'townie' campers. It seemed sad watching the little calves bleating away and drinking green milk but then it didn't stop me spreading the lurpak thicker than the biscuit.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 24/01/2009 22:06

Just seen your profile Caz, you are definitely not a heifer any more are you

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:07

we don't feed matured milk... I believe some people do it as they think it is beneficial to the calves gut, much the same as pro-biotics and friendly bacteria for humans

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:08

lol fivegomad I was just looking at yours... your children are gorgeous!

nope I am as dh often mentions " not so bad for a 5th calver"

zazen · 24/01/2009 22:08

I used to work in agriculture - in animal production, I did a post grad in it - and there was definitely animal protein in the cows feeds - that is cows eating animals.

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:09

maybe many years ago....

FiveGoMadInDorset · 24/01/2009 22:10

Thank you Caz. Yours are georgeous too, glad to se ethat you do the ponies and the showing as well.

cazboldy · 24/01/2009 22:12

yes we have 3 ponies

that is ds1 and one of his jerseys at the norfolk show

FairLadyRantALot · 24/01/2009 22:12

so, how about cows with matitis and the possible puss?

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