Urgent question re; newborn vaccinations...

[becaroo]

My 6 week old baby has his first jabs on 25th of this monght when he will be nearly 9 weeks then I have been told that he will not have his second lot til 13th Jan because "they dont do a clinic the day before xmas eve and you dont want a grisly baby over xmas do you?......"

...ok, I realise I might be being overprotective but..WTF?????? I would rather my baby have his jabs when specified by the DoH!!!!!!!

Can anyone either;
a) reassure me
or
b)Tell me if I am right to be concerned?

(My ds1 had his like clockwor at 2,3 and 4 months but at a different surgery)

Thanks x

one of my nct mums lo's did not have her 4 month jabs until she was 24 weeks and has been fine.

i thought that you just had to make sure that there were 4 weeks between each lot, above childs mother 'forgot' about jabs and lo didn't have the first lot until 10 weeks

they didn't used to do them till much later but the earlier schedule was introduced to catch mums while they still might be going to baby clinics.
Later might be better so they are stronger to deal with any side effects.

Here in Oz the first lot of jabs aren't done until 2 months anyway. I had my DS' done at 12 weeks (as I am unfamiliar with the immunisations here, and wanted to research them before he had them),and he is due for his next lot on 23rd Dec. They do 2 months, 4 months and 6 months here.
I wouldn't worry too much

If it was me I'd ask for the jabs to be done the week before, on 5th or 6 Jan.

second what hedgehog sent - for various reasons dd has not had hers bang on 8/12 etc and its been fine ... fwiw I reckon she was easier about having them for being that little bit older

Thanks all x

What Needmorecoffee said. Mine had theirs at 3, 5 and 9 months as was the schedule then. It was only altered to improve uptake rates as a lot of mums return to work/stop going to clinics after the first few months. It will be fine for your lo to have them a little further apart. In fact a friend of mine's daughter caught whooping cough despite having the vaccines. She said her gp had told her he thought the closer vaccination program didn't produce the same levels of immunity in some children and he thought the old timings were more effective.
I would be more concerned about them being given too close together than further apart.

DS3 didn't have his until 4 months, 8 months and 2yrs . The HV started chasing me, more because they wanted him to have the MMR rather thanthe third baby imms because we live near the SE London measles cluster. I've been told recently that pre schoolers are now being required to have 3 MMR jabs before they start school.

I would not worry. other european countrys do them a 3 months 6months and then 12 months for the first jabs.

infact I would be much more concerned about getting them to close together

LOL the magical MMR when if first came out you only need one dose, now because the vaccine is crap you need more and more doses. The truth is vaccinated kids are getting measles all the time but they would rather lie than admit the vaccine is a failure.

just what \I was thinking beeper.
I love the whole logic of vaccination as maths.

The assumption that a child who is not immune after one set will somenhow then slip into the 90% that are expected to become immune if they are given the jab again....and again...
Couldn't possibly be that for some children the vaccine just doesn't work.

Research and statistics of reported measles cases has shown that the 1st MMR isn't effective for about 10% of the population,so rather than do blood tests on every child,it a "belt and braces" technique to immunise every child a second time.

My DS got Measles when he was 3,before he had his 2nd dose,obviously it hadn't worked effectively for him.

The Vaccine isn't a Failure,those that are immunised twice don't get Measles,Mumps or Rubella.

Why some people are now being given three sets then if two absoloutely unquestioningly does it?

Never heard of that Pagwatch,oviously you know of peple who have though.

Sawyer you're not right. Last I heard DoH said 1st MMR gives 90 pc immunity and two MMRs give 95 pc immunity.

I think it's all rubbish anyway but you are wrong even on what the DoH says.

There will always be a few people who cannot be immunised I guess. I have only seen it with Hep B though,and then theres an alternative which works apparently,rare in the case of Hep B though.

Sorry OP
Yes I was also late-ish with the infant vaccs with no problems. I think it may be a case of catchee monkey while still at the baby clinic. I understand your concern though as it's over the winter period.

Fair enough bsas,I'm just going on my experience.Never heard,or read of cases of MMr after two. Never had to give 3 doses,never heard of anyone getting three.

95% is good enough for my DC's.

But it's not 95pc immunity is it.. it's 100 pc immunity for 95 pc of people and 0 immunity for 5 pc of people. Am I right? Sometimes it's as if we are being told there's a sliding level of immunity.. as if the more infectious people are around, the more vulnerable you will be.

becaroo, the DoH picks those dates for administrative purposes, because having them done at 2/3/4 months (when most mothers are still on maternity leave, attending baby clinic, focused on baby stuff, etc., etc.) ensures that more babies have all the jabs than would be the case if they went for a more drawn-out schedule. You are obviously a conscientious parent who will make sure your DS has all his jabs, so you don't need to fret about the second set being delayed by three weeks.

The figures I have read is 2-5% are not protected 1st time round,presumably some of these ,or most of these, are then protected with the 2nd one.Allowing for the odd few of course that may be resistant.

I agree that the times are not crucial,I often say to the parents I see that the guidelines say no sooner than 28 days, but if your LO is ill or you are going on holiday,it doesn't hurt to delay them by a few weeks.

Re: 3 MMR's : that was definitely what I was told last week when I took DS3 to the clinic for his 2nd MMR. Apparantly they are giving the third dose as part of the pre school booster....but then DS1 and DS2 didn't have their pre school boosters until they were both 7 so the liklihood of DS3 getting a third MMR is pretty slim really.

I didn't bother asking why. I have a healthy disregard for most of what health visitors say and I've given up trying to have a healthy debate with them re the pro's and con's of things.

I am confused,I work as a Practice Nurse and haven't been sent any new schedules.

The 2nd MMR is/was always given with the Preschool injection.

Health Visitors don't usually give Imms either