Leeds cancelled a drag queen book reading

[Magicmama92]

Just curious as to what the problem is?
I bet most of the grown women on here being nasty take their kids to pantos or let them watch justin who dresses as a women on cbeebies.
Kids dont care at all all they see is a person.
Im sad that this site seems to be constantly used for mums to be horrible.
I for one think leeds ciry council should allow it and guess what if you dont like it dont go.
But youd better stop going to pantos or letting your children watch justin aswell.

Anything that gets kids interested in books and reading is a good thing, I just don't see where drag queens fit into the experience of a preschooler. It's not like they see them in their normal life, they are not familiar to them.

Role models that challenge stereotypes such as female firefighters or male nurses or people dressed up as fun characters would be a much better choice for reading a story.
Even men or women dressed in non-traditional gendered clothing, but what you would see being worn day to day would be more appropriate and would probably trigger more discussion and questions from the child than a heavily made up (and in some cases, quite scary looking) drag queen.

Drag is not for children. No one ganged up. Leeds council educated themselves. Good for them.

From what I have seen in checking out these sessions from different links is that it is rather hit and miss in whether they are appropriate for children in the way they dress, have contact with the children etc. And that is the point. They usually present a hypersexualised version of a woman simply in the way they dress, in the era when more children are accessing porn, how is this a positive step for the way women are even viewed.

Also, it seems that there is often adult content on their social media. This person had content discussing orgies with a picture of a child's cartoon character.

Considering the current climate where women are being 'cancelled' for simply wrong think, I should think an adult performer who was in contact with children and did this regularly, might think carefully about the content they post outside of this.

After all, we are constantly being told that if someone tells us who they are, we are to believe them wholeheartedly.

Mums net all ganged up to report it to leeds city council and got it shut down so yes.

That's hilarious! No, they didn't. Do you believe everything you read on t'internet?

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And leeds city council will have made sure that the person had all the correct background checks. As they do with anyone around children.

Lol! If that was the case they wouldn't have employed this one - who talks about holes they fuck on their social media which publicises their events.

1. Drag is womanface and insulting to women. The sooner it goes the same way as blackface the better.
2. Safeguarding children is more important than anyone’s feelings. Safeguarding is not ‘being nasty’.
3. These events are proving to be problematic time and time again. With inappropriate character names, the experience for children e.g. rolling around on the floor together (grooming), social media sexualised content etc.
4. I cannot understand what interest or expertise a 20 something, childless man has in reading to small children?

@Magicmama92, here is drag queen Kitty Demure explaining it for you.

I'd much rather the same people came and read to children (with all relevant safeguarding checks done in advance) and not be in drag.

At my kids nursery masks weren't allowed because they scared some kids.

The amount of make up some of these DQS wear is like a mask and could be scary.

Sometimes the make up is quite clown like. Clowns are scary to some.

Come and read. With no drag. If you really want to show the kids a suitable photo of you in drag.

Same means achieved but without all the ridiculousness around it.

DQs quite often need to make their names PG at these events. That's a sign this is really meant as adult entertainment.

You can scream from the rooftops as much as you like that drag isn't sexualised, but it is.

And I will repeat they do not background check routinely as they are not allowed around children unsupervised

There was an incident with a drag queen in America (or Canada thinking about it) where a convicted sex offender was in drag reading to children they have since tightened up their procedures and check everyone (never thought I would say this but) we should learn that lesson and tighten up procedures around our own children not just in this case but in ALL cases

And for me to feel comfortable having a drag queen around my child they need to have

Clean name (not flow job etc)
Clean online profile
Dbs checked

If not 🤷‍♀️ I reserve my right not to participate and stop my child from participating too

I think absolutely everyone who is over the age of about 10 and can read (so the vast majority of people in other words) has achieved that without ever needing a drag queen to help. You'd think by the tone of the OP that story time with a drag queen is some sort of educational experience that is essential to literacy.

Excellent, well done Leeds City Council! Its good that at least one council/library is coming to their senses and realising drag events aren't suitable for children.

The BBC have reported this here

Is it really toxic hate to bring up safeguarding?

How can the BBC report that as fact? Interesting to note they don’t name mumsnet at all which shows that they know damn well those comments never got made.

He said the remarks included "being labelled misogynistic"

So we're not allowed to point out misogyny because it offends the misogynist?

Boo boo.

I also didn’t see any accusations of him being a paedophile, but plenty pointing out the necessity of safeguarding because of sex offenders in Canada (and USA?) managing to host DQST sessions.

It also didn’t help that the drag queen in question had inappropriate photos on his public SM, something which should have been flagged up during safeguarding checks.

And also, again, drag is not for children.

That is such a shitty report by the BBC - so biased.