Too much of harry potter, percy jackson, Artemis fowl making DS aggresive

[mom17]

DS 10, is really crazy about above mentioned books along with other books which I aminly found it to be aggressive. I really need to try hard to make him read classicals( has read few but doesn't interest him much). He really becomes crazy till the time he finishes the books, nothing matters to him then ( exams, assessment, any other routine studies). If I say something in line that I will discontinue library membership or will not order those kind of books, he really gets so angry and starts screaming and talks badly like "lets see who will study then?". If I don't order those kind, he brings it from school library. I have read Harry potter/percy jackson little to understand what does he like there and I really feel it to be crappy/useless and feel that up to certain extent it is ok to read these to keep up with peer group but reading it again and again and ignoring other genre is not appropriate.
I feel it is general problem with boys, so would like to know how other parents have dealt with it or any suggestion ?

Pretty much all of them. For example Lord of a the Flies is highly violent - they tear another boy apart.
Dickens has loads of rape and murder (it's a socially realistic interpretation of Victorian England).
Hardy is also very brutal.
Classics that avoid such things, such as Austen, are unlikely to be enjoyed by a 10 year old. In general regency social satire isn't their thing.
However, if he enjoys more recent fantasy how about The Hobbit?

Lord of the Flies is literally about 10 year old boys murdering each other.

If you aren't equipped to read, understand and discuss the books yourself then you aren't qualified to be choosing for him either- let him read what he wants! I say this as someone who has an English literature degree - the love of reading is what's important, not whether you think the book is a classic or not.

Giving books as reward will not work with him as he knows he can very well borrow it from library.
I will try Hobbit.

Philip Pullmans books are superb. His dark material trilogy is a cracker.

Eva ibbotson is also very good.... You should try them!

Please don't worry about what your son is reading, just be thankful he's reading.

For many years my grandad pointed to homer every time he saw me reading anything, every single time he saw me with a book, he'd try and get me to read a more worthy tome what he enjoyed. Put me off literature for years.

Have a look at some private schools 11 plus reading list and you will see that Lord of the flies is far too advanced for him. Maybe George owrwell's animal farm, if you want to blow his mind and make him politically aware. No doubt he'll get more out of it when he's 16 but he can always read it again!

If he likes fantasy, try him on the earth sea books by ursula le guin, or the harpist in the wind trilogy by Patricia mc killip.

A rollicking tale from Eoin colfer or jk Rowling isn't going to change his personality. It hasn't changed any one else's now has it, or these books would come with a health warning.

Think about it, you're not making sense, and you're really damaging your relationship with him by trying to control his thoughts and preferences.

Truthfully, what goes on in his head is really none of your business. He'll resent your interference and controlling ways.

Please don't force him to read certain books. I am convinced that there are books out there I would have enjoyed, if only I had read them under my own volition.

Certainly I agree with pp that you should not recommend books you haven't ready simply because they are "classics".

I second what lots of other pps have said: it's wonderful that your DS is reading at all! My then 10 yo brother was a very reluctant reader until the first HP book was published - he galloped through them and it gave him a thirst for reading which continues to this day. I love literature and read widely, but I will happily admit even now as 30+ yo that I return to HP as 'comfort' reading, not ashamed :) Some people may pick apart the plots of any of the books you've mentioned but there is some advanced vocabulary and quite adult/real world themes you could discuss with your son, despite it being labelled children's or young adult fantasy literature.

All the classics you and other pps mentioned your son will come to in time - or he won't. There are great young adult books out there which would be more appropriate for him - simply browse in the YA area of the library or a bookshop. He will be introduced to more at school, at the right time. A book is a book, as far as I'm concerned. It's lovely he loves words in this world of increasing dependence on technology for entertainment.

he maybe able to get them from the library but the ones from you will be a surprise

get him books hes into

he likes fantasy ,theres a huge selection just a few

the alchemist cat
the amazing maurice and his educated rodents
the hobbit

Ugh book snobbery is the worst.

Why on earth would you try to force a 10yo to read an inappropriately mature book?

You tried to make you ds read Lord of the Flies? As a "less aggressive" choice? Jess habe you read the book?

That would be Jesus, not Jess. I imagine perhaps his nickname could've been Jess?

Don't try to choose books for him, let him choose what he wants from the school library and from your local children's library. If you're giving him books for his birthday or Christmas, ask him what he would like, don't try to foist something on him that may never get read.

Seriously though, you want to be careful. If you try to force your choices upon him, you may find that he goes off reading altogether.

Books can't make a person aggressive though...

Some of the things you want him to read are too old, either he won't understand the message, or they'll upset him - I was a very good reader and was upset by Lord of the Flies at 13. (I personally think 10 is a bit too young for the later Harry Potter books.)

He might like Chrestomanci, The Indian in the Cupboard, Eragon, the Charlie Bone series and The Fire Within.

If you want something a bit more classic, try The Chronicles of Narnia or maybe Shakespeare written as short stories. There's also stuff like Little House on the Praire and The Railway Children, but I might give him a break from suggesting 'classics' for now.

There's nothing wrong with re-reading, and I would say all the books he's reading are good for his age!

You've had lots of suggstions, I'd second Philip Pullman, and would add Jonathan Stroud, and Michael Morpurgo.
For depth of knowledge, and particularly if he enjoys Percy Jackson, can I suggest that you find some books on ancient Greece, maybe a children's version of the Iliad and the Odessy. There are fantastic illustrated versions of stories like Jason and the Argonauts, Theseus and the Minotaur, Perseus and Medusa. These old tales are referenced in Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, so he'll make the links.

Also Michael Grant's 'the gone' series, the Girl With All the Gifts and Jon Mayhew's Mortloxk series would be great for him.

I am sure you were aware of the plot of Oliver Twist though? Young boy joins gang of thieves, makes friends with a young prostitute whose boyfriend murders her then kidnaps the young boy? No wonder he enjoyed it!

Oh !! I didn't read Oliver Twist and he is too innocent to understand any of these. I gave him that as we encountered some comprehension based on it. Frankly speaking, I started giving him classical as lots of comprehensions were based on it. I need to careful now.

Why are you giving him comprehension?! For god's sake, just let him enjoy books!!

Yes, but the point of comprehension is that you can read and understand an unknown text

We did actually do some Dickens at prep school, but it was abridged and then some extracts from the original.

Op you may also want to refer to them as classics not classicals (not dismissing your command of English here as it is excellent) but in literary terms they are classics.

Let him enjoy reading - the new GCSE will ask for his reading of pre-20th Century reading but will be short extracts - perhaps get him a short story book ?

I have this one for my pupils
www.amazon.co.uk/Pre-twentieth-Century-Short-Stories-Literature/dp/0340737425#immersive-view_1471012803847

The reading test on our 11 plus has had some Dickens (Bleak House) a few years ago. But has also used very up to date stuff. I think it would be best to separate reading for pleasure from comprehension unless he expresses an interest in the text the extract comes from.

Classics are boring, there, i've said it. You think Harry Potter is crappy/useless? I think they are perfect reading material for a 10yo.

If he's reading enthusiastically and borrowing from both school and local library then that's fine!

Reading should primarily be for fun.

I read most of the classics as a child but didn't really understand them (even though I could read them if you see what I mean)

I retread them all as a teenagers and it was like reading a whole new set of books. Being able to read the words isn't the same as being able to understand the themes or nuances.

If you are concerned that his reading is narrow why not go together to the library and ask the librarian for some recommendations - they love to help.

Well, in the school I teach in, Artimus Fowl is a Y7 reader and the first Skulduggery Pleasant Y8, both chosen to get them reading for pleasure! I would second Pullman's Dark Materials trilogy, beautifully written, and Phillip Reeves. You should be so proud of your son reading for pleasure. If the books enliven his imagination that is fabulous! If you want him to look at more 'traditional' books he might enjoy Geoffrey Trease or Swallows and Amazons but if he doesn't want to persevere don't see it as a problem - I also enjoy re-reading Harry P! As does my DD1 who is a, very overworked, junior doctor and spent last week lying by a pool reading Deathly Hallows!