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What is a reasonable salary expectation for a young live-out full-time nanny in outer London

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Undrugged · 06/02/2025 23:25

My soon to be 18 year old will be looking for a live-out nannying job for 1-2 years post- A levels, from summer 2026. We are in London/ Surrey borders. She wants to do an expensive and very specific childcare degree course that I can’t afford as a single parent unfortunately. This is a way of saving for her fees and also getting real, practical experience of nannying for a couple of years prior.

She has work history already - a job which involves preparing full family meals from scratch 3 times a week, ironing, cleaning, gardening, in a multi-generational home. she’s done this since she was 14. Also now volunteering on weekends with a family with a child with moderate SEND and absolutely loving every minute of it.

She would do a paediatric first aid course and seek Ofsted reg as a home childcarer before starting work.

Realistically — what is the going rate for a very young nanny these days? And how would you suggest she looks for work? And how does she addrsss the issue of only being available for a max of 2 years? She does not want to fib but I can see this would be less attractive to families looking for continuity of care with their children.

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Mangoesintoapub · 07/02/2025 09:09

Maybe £12ph? She will have limited options at 18.

littleluncheon · 07/02/2025 09:12

She will be a junior nanny or au pair+ at that age with no qualifications or experience - minimum wage minus the accommodation offset which is about £70 a week.

littleluncheon · 07/02/2025 09:13

Sorry, live out not live in - so just minimum wage.

eurochick · 07/02/2025 09:16

We live in the same area and when our daughter was a baby made an offer for a nanny position to someone who sounds similar to your daughter. Our one reservation was that she couldn't drive and that would definitely be helpful round here. In the end she turned us down to accept an offer in Australia and we ended up with our second choice who was fantastic. But we just clicked with our first choice so her age and lack of driving licence didn't put us off. Your daughter might get lucky too. It is certainly worth a try, with working as a mother's help or in a nursery as back up options. If she could get driving it would definitely make her more appealing.

Lunde · 07/02/2025 17:01

StormingNorman · 07/02/2025 08:48

Borland nannies earn extremely well but your daughter won’t earn anything like that. I agree it will be closer to minimum wage as a mother’s help or possibly working in a nursery.

OP's daughter is saving up to do the Norland course - looking for childcare work

Lunde · 07/02/2025 17:05

Koru Kids employs Uni students and others for childcare jobs - often for wraparound care etc. They pay in the region of £11-14 per hour

https://www.korukids.co.uk/

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StormingNorman · 07/02/2025 17:32

Lunde · 07/02/2025 17:01

OP's daughter is saving up to do the Norland course - looking for childcare work

I know.

Londonmummy66 · 07/02/2025 19:40

I'd normally be a bit hmmm but if she approaches an agency with references from the multi generational family she'll have been with for 4 years (is she doing childcare there as well as house work etc - that would help?) and the SEN child she has been looking after for 2+ I think that an agency might be prepared to put her on their books for mothers help. If she got a SEN placement she might get £600pw gross. SHe could also look at Nanny/housekeeping roles which are usually after school for slightly older DC which would pay more. Bottom end of nanny salaries would be about £700 so could look at those as well. Her best bet is to call some of the London agencies and be persuasive over the phone and beg for an interview - then it will depend on how she does in person. TBH they will understand the need to earn to get to Norland and might well be keen to establish a long term relationship with a Norlander so she should give it a shot. Most will require paediatric first aid so if she hasn't got this it would be a good investment of time and money to get it. Also being able to drive is likely to be helpful.

Wishboneswishes · 07/02/2025 20:05

I know someone in N London who pays £130 a day for a nanny - unqualified but experienced. I doubt you’d get that at 18 though. There are some good agencies around that could help which is what I’d look into.

I’m chuckling at the Norland hate on here too. My DD is a Norland Nanny - has been for 6 years. She currently works for a high net worth family and is definitely not treated like a slave! She’s like one of the family and travels with them on some incredible and frequent holidays in some absolutely dreamy and exciting parts of the world. She earns upwards of £55k and tops it up with extra overtime when she travels as her contract is 4 days a week.
I hope your DD gets to fulfil her dream OP. The training was incredible. Honestly it’s been the absolute making of my DD she loves her job and she has many Norlander friends who are having similar experiences. Good luck to your DD 🤞

TickingAlongNicely · 07/02/2025 20:10

Childminder assistant? Or TA.

But unless desperate,I wouldn't hire an 18yo as full time childcare. Baby sitter yes. But not all say. . You need the experience that comes with childcare.

Exception maybe with a childcare qualification like the T Level.

Tubetrain · 07/02/2025 20:18

Lunde · 07/02/2025 17:05

Koru Kids employs Uni students and others for childcare jobs - often for wraparound care etc. They pay in the region of £11-14 per hour

https://www.korukids.co.uk/

They have an awful reputation round here for how they treat staff and families who use them.

littleluncheon · 07/02/2025 20:45

Surely she'd have more fun going to the US or Australia as an au pair for a year or two?

liveforsummer · 08/02/2025 07:24

littleluncheon · 07/02/2025 20:45

Surely she'd have more fun going to the US or Australia as an au pair for a year or two?

Maybe, but she wouldn't save much money towards her study costs that way! OP I think folk might be surprised. Obviously she won't earn as much as an older/experienced nanny but it can be really hard to find a decent one - especially if you aren't very very wealthy so she may well get a decent position with ok pay. Sounds like she has some reasonable experience and is mature. There will be wanted ads if she looks about.

Chocoholic900 · 08/02/2025 09:20

For a young inexperienced nanny she'd be looking around earning £12-14 per hour.
She'd be best looking at work using social media (local nanny group pages on facebook), or on other websites that advertise for nanny positions. She's not going to get work through a nanny agency due to her lack of experience.

She doesn't need to address being available for a max of 2 years, she takes the job and then gives her notice in when she needs to at the end. Lots of people move on from a job - house move, change of circumstance etc. If she was only available for 6 months or something then that would be different.

The job market for nanny's isn't great right now, a lot of competition for full-time jobs, lots of experienced nannies are struggling to find work for months at a time. But because she is young she may find a mother's help job, which more experienced nannies wouldn't go for.

Remember the wage Norland advertises on their site is for the nanny jobs that they can get through the Norland agency, a lot of Norland nannies who work outside of London end up getting a job through other agencies - so don't end up getting the high wage you might expect a Norlander to get and just end up getting the same wage as every other nanny in the area.
The high wage of £120k isn't reachable for most nannies as this will often be for a rota nanny job which are incredibly competitive and not obtainable for most.

littleluncheon · 08/02/2025 12:22

liveforsummer · 08/02/2025 07:24

Maybe, but she wouldn't save much money towards her study costs that way! OP I think folk might be surprised. Obviously she won't earn as much as an older/experienced nanny but it can be really hard to find a decent one - especially if you aren't very very wealthy so she may well get a decent position with ok pay. Sounds like she has some reasonable experience and is mature. There will be wanted ads if she looks about.

She'll have no living costs though. I think it's more realistic she'll find a full time au pair job than a full time nanny role in the UK as a teenager with no qualifications or professional experience.

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Undrugged · 08/02/2025 18:05

Thank you everyone for your thoughts. She would be living at home with me so no living costs. I don’t think au pair type work either in the UK or elsewhere would raise enough.

We will find a way and something for her to do to build up her savings and get experience. It is a VERY expensive course, way out of my financial league!

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cestlavielife · 08/02/2025 18:08

She could speak to Snap childcare on the SEN side

Undrugged · 08/02/2025 18:08

And @liveforsummer this is what I am choosing to believe!

Will look into paed first aid course.

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VioletSpeedwell · 08/02/2025 18:16

How much does the Norland course cost?

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littleluncheon · 08/02/2025 18:32

Nursery will be good experience for her even if it's not her end goal.