Nanny from my home childcare idea

[Confidentialinfo]

With the evolution of hybrid working and many families working from home more often do you think there is a gap in the market for a hybrid childcare approach?

Basically a Nanny that is also a registered childminder - so would pick up child from home in the morning, breakfast there (clean up all nanny type duties) then on to groups or whatnot - then parents have the option if they would like the child to be cared for at their home or the Nanny’s home depending if they are working from home - then nanny brings child back then dinner and bath ready for parents to take over of a late afternoon/ evening. Can’t decide if there could be a gap in the market or if it’s too complicated.

I wouldn’t like or want this…

the amount of thinking and planning and who is where / when and then the big client meeting s gets moved and so you have to reorganise it again…. 🤯🤯🤯
it would boil my brain.

my child is either in my house or at the CMs.

if she’s at the CMs and i want to do something with my DD I say I am dropping her in at 11 or I say I am finishing early I’ll do pick up at 4 don’t bother with dinner.

@Confidentialinfo I had an arrangement like this 24 years ago- she was amazing- the 1 slight difference was that she had our son at her house post 10am after coming to ours at 8.15am and getting him ready and breakfasted , often she took him to groups and out and about too - but post 3.15 she did a school pick up and also had a 6 year old teachers child for an hour and a half as well - it worked really well.

It's a fine line tbh

You can't be registered as a cm if caring for kids in their own home as that's a nanny

If in own home as a cm you are self employed and I can't imagine any family happily paying £6/7 as a cm then going to a nanny rate of £16/17 gross but still as a cm in your home

If you are being their nanny you need to be employed as your only job so isn't multiple families and how some nannies get 'round' the se title so can't be as a cm

Hope I'm making sense as work nights so going to bed in a mo

@nannynick is clued up on all this stuff

If there is a way he would know

Childminders are able to be an unregistered nanny. Most wouldn't do it though as they have their own children and they childmind from their own home so their children do not have to travel somewhere else early morning.

Whilst the nanny/childminder combo may appeal to a parent, it won't be something that appeals to many childminders. In the OP's case, if it suits them then fine but they may find that they get paid more if they were a nanny the entire time, and went out to places during the day.

the amount of thinking and planning and who is where / when and then the big client meeting s gets moved and so you have to reorganise it again…. 🤯🤯🤯
it would boil my brain.

Itll make all the ey paperwork for the inspections for the childminding side a pain in the arse as well

Sounds like an excellent niche service for dual income couples.

Why not? Because it is illegal! Presuming you are in England- Anyone who is paid to look after a child for more than 2 hours a week in their own home MUST register as a Childminder with Ofsted. You can’t hire a “Nanny” and then tell them that you are happy for them to work from their house I’m afraid.

I did exactly this, all above board. The family wanted one on one care for their child but the Mum worked from home and needed quiet. I had been working as a Childminder previously, so was already registered with Ofsted. I was a self-employed Childminder but I chose to only look after one child, no other families. I charged them them an hourly rate equivalent to Nannying and they had my exclusive use in return. I picked up the baby from their house, childminded her all day at my home, then dropped her back home at the end of the day. I followed the EYFS, completed all Childminding paperwork, had childminding insurance and was Ofsted inspected. It was a perfect set up for everyone. I think there will be more demand for this now that more people work from home.

Amazing! So glad to hear you’ve done it and it worked! The family interested will pay me exclusive nanny rate wherever I’m working from.

But to be a nanny they need to look after the kids in the kids home

Not theirs

Op is talking about talking kids back to hers so parents get to work at home in peace

So then reverts back to a cm and being self employed

Not an employed nanny @nannynick

So they paid you three times the usual cm rate for you to be their nanny but really a cm

So you had a cm aka your contract with all the cm stuff but said payment was £15/18phg

Who chose the rules about holidays /sick pay etc

Worked for me too @HarrietStyles many years ago-

You can not nanny from your own home it's illegal. A nanny doesn't have to follow the EYFS and the inspections if they choose to be Ofsted registered are different

You can not look after someone else's child in your own home for financial rewards for more than 2 hours if they are under 8.

Yes correct. They had a childminding contract exactly the same as any other person does who hires the services of a Childminder. At the beginning of each year we mutually chose 4 weeks holiday that worked for us both. There was obviously no sick pay, just like any other self employed childminder. Everything was the same as any other childminder, except I exclusively worked for one family and in return they paid me the same rate as a Nanny.

Yes for me I run my childminding and nanny business though a business, not as self employed so it should be more simple for me to be able to invoice 2 days a week of each at the same rate, or just invoice all as childminder guess this is all tbc

At the moment I childmind 4 days a week and do event/ soho farmhouse nannying on weekends if a good enough offer comes along!

thanks for all the advice - think I’ll go for it as a one off and see how it works. Such a lovely family.