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How much should I expect from my nanny?

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winsterwoes · 15/03/2023 19:15

Hello. I'm looking for some honest advice here - from either nannies or anyone with experience of having employed a nanny.

We have a nanny for our two children, she's been with us for a good few weeks now. It's our first time having this experience so it's all new!

When we interviewed her, she seemed amazing - decades of experience and tons of ideas about activities she could do with the children to help their learning and growth.
We agreed that she would do the standard nanny duties of children's laundry, meals, and other regular jobs (e.g. weekly or fortnightly).

Three days of the week she has both 1 and 3 year old, and two of the days she only has the baby (nursery drop off for older one, but not pick up). Baby still naps, and also on days with the older one she gives her 'quiet time', so all in all I personally think there's plenty of time she has to be planning, having a break, etc.

So far it's not been what we expected, she hasn't been doing half the stuff we thought she would or have asked her to do.

Our gripes :

  • She doesn't seem to be doing many structured activities really with either of the children. She has started taking them to some groups, so at least they'll get something out of those.
When home - with the baby 75% of the time he seems to be sitting amongst the same toys occupying himself whilst she cleans the kitchen or eats her breakfast/lunch. As for the toddler, 75% the time she's just wandering around entertaining herself or playing with the same toys that are already out. What I would expect is, at a minimum, the nanny should get out different toys so they're getting some variety, and ideally, do at least one structured activity a day (she does maybe one a week).
  • We don't seem to be getting the benefit of her supposed experience.
We'd expected her to be on the ball with developing both their skills, whether that's crawling / standing / spoon skills for baby ... or drawing letters, learning days of the week etc for toddler. But we don't think that currently we're getting any more for our money than if we'd employed a cheaper, less experienced nanny. E.g. I would have expected her by now to ask about whether we are thinking of transitioning the baby from milk between meals to snacks.. but nope no mention of it (of course I'm not WAITING for her to suggest it before I start transitioning, just surprised that she hasn't even mentioned it given her years of experience).
  • She eats her breakfast and lunch at a different time to the children.
Now, normally I wouldn't dream of dictating when anybody eats, but it seems a bit off that she feeds the children, then leaves them to their own devices while she cleans the kitchen, and then further leaves them to their own devices as she then sits down to eat her own meal - when it's perfectly possible and normal to just eat at the same time as them. She doesn't take massively long, but it's just niggling at me. I know, everyone needs a break, so maybe we're being too OTT and I'm prepared to be told if that is the case.
  • She hasn't done any of the regular jobs that I had written down for her.
Examples are : deep clean high chairs every so often (instead of just wiping the tray), deep clean the baby bath every so often, wash the toddler's toilet seats every so often. Are those acceptable things to be asking her to be doing??

I know the day is only so long, and if it looked like she was trying and she genuinely didn't have time to be getting everything done, I'd understand.

But I just don't know what she's doing half the time except making herself look busy tidying the kitchen or sitting 'supervising' the children's play but not coming up with new activities herself.

Are we being unreasonable to expect her to be doing educational activities with the children?

I'm also wary of bringing stuff up as I don't want it to affect her relationship with us / the children.

Thanks for any advice!

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Aphrathestorm · 16/03/2023 10:53

This is why I chose a nursery over nanny/cm.

I want the DCs kept busy.

If I was happy for them to bum around the house all day I'd stay home with them myself.

PorridgeWithSaltOrSugar · 16/03/2023 10:55

Honestly? You sound hard work. As a nanny myself, the whole working from home parents popping in and out is a huge pain in the arse. You should nip that in the bud before the baby becomes a toddler and gets upset by it, makes the nannies job sooo hard.

I can guarantee your nanny is not paid enough to deep clean your things...that's not even part of a nannies job.

She takes them out to groups? That's such a great thing for young children. She cooks them fresh meals each day? Wow! That's great. And it isn't ok that she doesn't want to eat as early as them? Why not? Say the kids are seated at the table at 12 to eat lunch, and nanny finishes at 4.30. Maybe she doesn't get home until 6 and then she has to begin cooking dinner which takes her until 7. 12-7 is a huge gap. Would you rather your kids were hungry until say 1.30 so they could all eat together? Or nanny was hungry until 7pm so they could all eat together? This is all to make you happy? Instead of just letting the children and nanny eat separately so they can all be happy as it fits to their schedule. I used to eat separately at lunch from my nanny kids when they were that age. I started early, I didn't get home until late and I preferred a later lunch to tide me over. Also, I welcomed the 10 mins of eating alone because being there from 7.30 with no mental break, out at groups, changing etc is hard going! The ten mins of peace helps to break the day up. It's good for children to find their own fun and games, unless you want kids who can never occupy themselves and always want approval for every move they make whilst playing.

Honestly, it kind of sounds like you cannot and will not be pleased. I'd say just look for a new nanny and let this one be happy elsewhere but with your new nanny there will be more complaints of not doing this or it's not enough.....so I'd just save yourself the hassle and keep this one!

rainbowstardrops · 16/03/2023 11:02

I was a nanny for about 15 years (three different employers).

The first one, I had sole charge of the baby and the eldest child was at school. I came and went as I pleased. I was expected to do quite a lot of cleaning when the baby was asleep but it was fine. It was actually lovely.

The second position, my employer worked partly from home and partly away from home. She had a little office (their playroom!) but it worked absolutely fine and she referred to the children as 'our boys'! Absolutely loved it there.

The third position I felt far less comfortable. The dad would pop in and out and it absolutely changed the dynamic with the children. It's hard when you're trying to establish routines/boundaries etc and then the parent comes in and undoes what you've been trying to achieve.
The mum would come in from work and passively wipe down the kitchen sink etc, even though it was clean and make little comments. Nothing major but enough to feel uncomfortable. I certainly wouldn't have felt comfortable to suggest weaning changes or anything! She's their mum and if she's changed their routine then tell me and I'll be consistent!

There was never any pressure from any of my employers for me to do any specific activities apart from playgroups etc. Having said that, I just automatically took them to the park/seaside or whatever and did craft activities.

To be honest, your 3 year old would probably be happy just scribbling on a piece of paper before getting bored and the 1 year old wouldn't necessarily be able to do the same activity as the older child. Nursery will be providing lots of activities.

I think the relationship between your nanny and the children is far more important. I loved all of my charges. Eventually! 😄

ParentsTrapped · 16/03/2023 11:03

Aphrathestorm · 16/03/2023 10:53

This is why I chose a nursery over nanny/cm.

I want the DCs kept busy.

If I was happy for them to bum around the house all day I'd stay home with them myself.

“Bum round the house all day” - are you for real? What do you expect a baby to be doing?!

Grapefrui · 16/03/2023 11:04

I think her experience is shining through in the relationships she has with the children. You admit your 3 year old can be hard work, but your nanny is unfazed and able to handle to her calmly. A less experienced nanny might not have such good skills in this area.

Structured activities for babies are not really necessary as long as she is interacting with them and developing their language and social skills.

BouncingWorms · 16/03/2023 12:23

Actually it’s worth mentioning that when we hired a nanny it was specifically someone who didn’t have experience. I could set out my expectations and that’s what she did (and more), because it was literally in the job description. Some of the experienced nannies I interviewed were open about suggesting they knew more about raising my children than me. When I was employed as a nanny my first family were by far the best, she mostly hired from the local college and because it was predominantly first jobs she got exactly what she wanted. It’s bizarre that people think you can’t wfh with a nanny, of course you can and I wouldn’t want someone who felt they couldn’t fit in with my home and my family.

minipie · 16/03/2023 12:32

It's just stuff that I thought was part and parcel of a nanny job, i.e. taking away the mental load of children-related chores.

ahahahaha

I have had fabulous nannies, none of them did the mental load stuff. They do day to day. You do all the thinking, planning, milestones, new clothes, dentist appts, activity booking. If there is a specific task you want done (eg potty training) they should be able to do it, but it will be up to you to decide it’s time and ask your nanny to do it.

ChildminderMum · 16/03/2023 22:17

A lot of this just sounds like poor communication on your part.

If you want them to go to a club or class every day - tell her.
If you want the 3 year old to be doing arts and crafts daily or weekly - tell her.
If you want the baby to transition off milk, that is definitely your call - tell her.

The time it takes for her to eat her lunch and tidy up can't really be 75% of the day so that sounds a bit dramatic. If the children are happily occupying themselves with their toys while she eats and tidies up that sounds like a good thing to me?

TheLostNights · 16/03/2023 22:27

I agree about the structured activities. As long as she is chatting to them and engaging etc. It can be really hard with kids this age as their attention span is so short so activities dont always last very long even things like painting and messy play activities.
Can't you prebook her into some activities nearby ?
Maybe she just needs to get out the house more.

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