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My Nanny thought her salary was net and not gross so now she wants a rise

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PanickyAnniky · 25/01/2008 22:54

I've just hired a Nanny to look after 8 month old DD and she's just finished her 3rd week with us. I stated 400 pounds per week in the advert, but my Nanny has just said that she hadn't realised she would have to pay tax etc on that money and that she wants me to give her 400 pounds after tax. I suppose I should have said 400 gross for super clarity, but with every job I have ever gone for myself I've always assumed the salary was gross and that I would have to pay tax. Has anyone else come across this and if so, what did they do?

My Nanny is working 9am-7pm Mon-Fri, so she is doing long days, but all this was clearly gone through in the interview. I am also offering 28 holiday days per year, 8 pound an hour for extra time (babysitting, weekends etc) and a 1000 bonus after a year. Does this sound reasonable?

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1dilemma · 26/01/2008 00:08

some do surely
some are nannies for recently bereved children, some nannies for severely disabled children some nannies for lots of children some get paid to take someone elses child to meet their friends for coffee

hatwoman · 26/01/2008 00:10

you can work hard in any job. you can be a dosser in any job. you can't generalise like that.

1dilemma · 26/01/2008 00:13

eh hat? are you talking to me or neverenough?

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 00:14

I work a 12 or 13 hour day. I don't ever get a lunchbreak and work through my coffee breaks. I often have to drop everything to respond to someone's needs.My nanny-whom I adore-has her nanny friends round for coffee and chat and never cooks anything for my kids more exotic than spaghetti bolognaise. She works for 42 hours a week and I still spend weekends ironing my DCs school uniform. Being a nanny ain't rocket science. I don't begrudge her the salary I pay her but lets not pretend she works at the same level as other professional jobs.

1dilemma · 26/01/2008 00:16

I didn't, being a nanny isn't a profession it's a job but lots of nannies would sau they work lunchtimes and don't get coffee breaks.

hatwoman · 26/01/2008 00:17

neverenough really. but anyone who cares to listen.... "you can't generalise" was aimed at neverenough

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 00:22

I don't have a problem with " you can't generalise" actually. But am talking from local and my own experience.In fact, a nanny I know is moving from a lovely job with tow gorgeous little boys to working with a Celebrity family and their very disabled child.She will have a very demanding job and all her hours will be filled. But would anyone disagree that the average normal nanny job has plenty of time to chat, drink coffee and play?
But here's the thing: Experience and qualifications dictate higher remuneration.

1dilemma · 26/01/2008 00:24

We agree then

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 00:29

Absolutely!

hatwoman · 26/01/2008 00:34

I guess I do too .

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 00:36

There's lovely then!

1dilemma · 26/01/2008 00:42
Grin
Wisteria · 26/01/2008 00:47

NE - are you Welsh?

ChristmasShinySnowflakes · 26/01/2008 00:48

Neverenough: your nanny sounds as though she has far more time to spare than many of the other nannies I know.

Most of them are responsible for all the children's washing and ironing as well as ensuring their rooms are kept clean and tidy/beds changed regularly etc...

Good nannies work incredibly hard and barely get time to go to the loo let alone sit and have coffee and a chat with friends!

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 01:12

Yes she does-my children are in school.
I was born in Wales but grew up in Oz!
Nannies are fantastic and I couldn't have managed without my 3 lovely ones(not all at once!)
But we need to remember that a nanny is paid out of her employer's taxed income.
And a nanny doesn't have targets , audits, protocols to work to.
Horses for courses say I.

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 01:16

Christmas: I have 3 children-I can't in all honesty say that their washing, ironing, sheets etc takes 42 hours a week!

ChristmasShinySnowflakes · 26/01/2008 01:17

Oh no I daresay it doesn't the point I was making was that your nanny should be able to find the time to iron school uniforms so that you don't have to!

Wisteria · 26/01/2008 01:20

was the 'there's lovely' - took me straight back to the valleys

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 01:21

Now I agree with you entirely! She is lovely and loves my DDs and for that I forgive her a lot. But if I'm honest she is not the most dynamic of women, and I'm sure it;s my fault for not discussing it with her-I have tried BTW but things still slip back. But she is leaving in March so I am just biding my time.....No sense in upsetting her now!

Neverenough · 26/01/2008 01:22

Wisteria-my Dad and his sister say that all the time-not the valleys though-Gower peninsula!

Wisteria · 26/01/2008 01:24

beautiful place

night folks - shall leave you to your nanny chat and dream of affording someone to help out with washing and ironing

scottishmummy · 26/01/2008 01:26

nanny salaries"

SofiaAmes · 26/01/2008 04:35

Never ceases to amaze me how people can be so dismissive of and speak so poorly of the person they have entrusted their children to. Surely if you have no respect for the person, you wouldn't want your children to spend their day with them learning bad habits, eating unhealthy food and receiving no intellectual stimulation.

nannynick · 26/01/2008 08:19

Latest version of the NannyTax Wages Survey has been released. Looks like the Telegraph article scottishmummy linked to has used their figures.

As a nanny in the home counties (I'm about 30 miles from Central London), according to the NannyTax Wages Survey, my salary should have been around 25,548 gross for tax year 07.

Yet, I am on less than 15,000 though I do only work a 40 week year, so if I was paid for the 12 weeks I'm not paid for, it would become just a little over 19,000 ... still quite a bit under the 25,548 determined by the survey.

paros · 26/01/2008 08:53

I get 330 a week for 8.15 to 7.15 net.In Surrey . I have my own child but hes at school. I worked damn hard for my money . I dont have to do all the extra jobs I do (FGS last week the outside drains were blocked so I cleared them with rods .) But my employers are lovely they are so nice to my Ds and to me so I dont mind doing the extras . They dont ask for them I just want to give value for money as it were .