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Nanny share fee split

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TigerTill · 14/07/2022 12:27

Hi all - looking for some advice on how to share a nanny’s salary with the other family we’ve agreed to do a nanny share with. Generally we agreed to split 50:50 but it will be hosted full time in our home so I’m wondering if we should be entitled to pay a bit less? We’ll figure out how to split costs for food, nappies etc separately but given heating costs, cleaning equipment, general wear and tear (not to mention the minor hassle of having to store their extra high chair and travel cot, the double buggy etc) it seems fair that we should pay a little less. Is that standard practice and if so, how do you go about figuring out the difference?
thanks!

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Mangledrake · 14/07/2022 18:42

It's no harm using this place as a sounding board before having mildly sensitive conversations - OP seems sensible to me and I think this could work out very well.

NippyWoowoo · 14/07/2022 18:46

TigerTill · 14/07/2022 18:26

Wow, so many different views! I appreciate all the responses, thank you. I agree we’ll certainly benefit in some ways from hosting the nanny share, and we’ve agreed that if we don’t need the nanny on any particular day then they will look after the other child at the other family’s house, so no issues there. We have one child each. I hadn’t considered whether the nanny would do our child’s laundry etc so appreciate that those extra duties would offset running costs if we do agree to them - and the nanny should certainly keep our house clean to the extent the kids create mess.

I think I’m persuaded to drop the idea!

@Sittininafield I hope your prediction doesn’t turn out to be right!

Don't worry, I'm sure it will be fine! My last job was a share and worked really well. As a nanny I actually prefer being based at one house, I bring different books and crafts and have a little space there, it was annoying figuring out which house I'd be when and what I needed to take with me.

For money for classes etc, I got a Monzo card from one family that was topped up and the other family just paid half.

Also in terms of heating, neither family has the heating on 'all day'. It came on at set times, morning and evening, they were WFH as well anyway so everyone benefitted. But regardless, many ppl set their heating to come on twice a day

parietal · 14/07/2022 19:04

we had a nanny share that was 100% at our house which was bigger. We had 2 kids (one at nursery part-time) and the other family had one. I think we split according to the number of hours of care for each child, not according to the household bills etc.

and it all worked out fine for 2 years. So it can succeed. Good luck.

amylou8 · 14/07/2022 19:08

Unless they live next door, I think the cost and time involved in travel negates the extra expenses you'll incur.

SW1amp · 14/07/2022 19:10

Everyone I know with a nanny share has done a 60:40 split with the host family paying 40%

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/07/2022 21:28

Tricky

generally nanny shares are 50/50
as both houses get used

but good points that you don’t need to get child ready and take

nanny comes to you which is much less hassle

yes the nanny should do nursery duties so kids washing will be done. Cot /bed change and any food extras frozen so handy for weekends for you

food should be split

have uou discussed illness. Are you both happy for an ill child to be there

if nanny was ill which family would look after both children

are you both on same view on sleep routine food tv discipline etx

for the nanny. Much easier to be in one house then two

hopefully you won’t be wfh when she is there

Ponderingwindow · 14/07/2022 21:47

The convenience of having the nanny share hosted in your home is really valuable. You won’t be incurring travel costs to drop off and pick up your child. You will have more time in your day. That should more than offset an increased in utilities.

EdgeOfACoin · 15/07/2022 13:21

We use a childminder.

One drawback of a childminder over a nanny is the rushing around in the mornings - we have to all be up, dressed, fed, baby bag packed, ready for work and out the door by a certain time. It would be far more convenient to have someone come to the house in the morning and take over while the child was mid-breakfast or whatever. Then in the evening there's the rush to go and pick the child up after work.

Really, having to take a child to a nanny in someone else's house, has very few advantages for the parent who has to travel.

As for paying for electricity etc...well, you'd be paying for that anyway in a normal nanny set-up.

Personally, I think it is a bit cheeky to have a nanny share and benefit from the advantages that come from having a nanny rather than a childminder, and then expect the other parent to pay extra.

GU24Mum · 16/07/2022 22:29

Can you sit down with the other family and have a chat about the various things people have mentioned to iron them out / set parameters rather than one of you get grumpy about it after a couple of months and then not be able to raise it?

Squiffy01 · 02/08/2022 17:03

I would say do 50:50 you are definitely getting more benefit of having the nanny in your house.
It's your nursery duties getting done - child's washing, tidying playroom/child;s bedroom sorting things out. Your freezer they will fill with the batch cooking etc.
You won't have to get your child out and dropped off somewhere etc.

For food I would get nanny to do a weekly online shop for everything she will need for cooking for the children. I would keep it to 50 50 as well as although it will be your staples going down, herbs, spices, rice etc all leftovers and batch cooking will be going into your freezer that you can use on weekends so will all work out in the wash.

I wouldn't think you would have heating on much more as nanny most likely be out and about in the morning and if at home for afternoon they wouldn't have it on constant just for an hour or so to warm up the house.

Cleoamber · 03/08/2022 19:29

Nanny of over 12 years here and nanny shares are not split 50:50 or 60:40 etc . it’s actually legally required that both employers pay at LEAST minimum wage with separate contracts .. most nanny’s give a 20-30% discount on their normal hourly rate for a share ..

of course very few nanny’s will want to take on double the children / double the housework / childcare duties / two lots of Holidays to work around / two lots of potential child illness etc etc etc for the same take home pay

tenbob · 03/08/2022 20:20

Cleoamber · 03/08/2022 19:29

Nanny of over 12 years here and nanny shares are not split 50:50 or 60:40 etc . it’s actually legally required that both employers pay at LEAST minimum wage with separate contracts .. most nanny’s give a 20-30% discount on their normal hourly rate for a share ..

of course very few nanny’s will want to take on double the children / double the housework / childcare duties / two lots of Holidays to work around / two lots of potential child illness etc etc etc for the same take home pay

Nanny shares are pretty common where I live, and they are all pretty much the same - the nanny charges a 25-50% premium on the usual nanny rate, and the parents split it 60:40 with the hosting family paying the lower rate
blah blah separate contracts. Never happens in practice, the nanny gets one pay slip each month, with one family organising and the other transferring their share

Not all nannies will do it but plenty will, especially when one or more kids are at the same school, or when the nanny has been with one family for a long time and wants to stay with them once kids are school age but doesn’t want to leave the family

I appreciate it might vary by area, but in (my bit of) London, there is no discussion about what is fair, it’s just the standard way it’s arranged
it is a weekly topic of conversation on our school whatsapp groups and local community forum

same for when a nanny wants to bring her own child to work. It’s treated like a nanny share, with the employing family paying the equivalent of being the host family of a nanny share set up

Winter2020 · 03/08/2022 21:17

If the arrangement will work for you I wouldn't risk annoying the other family by saying £20 of shopping needs to be split £8/£12 or whatever. Both families would be able to nit pick reasons why the other family is better off so I would keep it very simple if it works for you better than not sharing then focus on that and 50/50.

VerityFab74 · 27/08/2022 22:48

www.nannytax.co.uk/nanny-shares

Each family are separate employers and need to issue a contact and each pay at least minimum wage.

Holidays need to be discussed as can be tricky is each family has different weeks .

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