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Childminder unable to cope with my child

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Fefifoefum · 12/06/2019 21:24

My daughter is 15 months old and has been going to a childminder for 2 months now, one day a week, I was really happy, she seemed happy, my daughter seemed happy.
A couple of weeks ago she had problems getting her to nap, she was taking 20 minutes to settle and then only sleeping for 20 minutes. She settles beautifully at home in her cot, and sleeps for two hoursish normally. My mum also has her for one day a week and she sometimes doesn’t nap well for her either.
The last couple of weeks she’s been saying at pick up that she’s had a hard day, my daughter isn’t happy, crying and wanting to be picked up/carried a lot, she’s obviously tired. My daughter is what I would describe as a slightly ‘higher needs’ child, she won’t play independently, needs to be in the same room as me constantly, I can’t so much as pop up stairs to grab something without her melting down, but I thought this was fairly normal for a 1 year old?
However the childminder is now saying she feels ‘unable to meet her needs’ and give her the attention she needs and even ‘joked’ about her needing a nanny. She said at pick up she feels with the other children, her own two year old and another two year old, she’s just unable to give her that attention.
My daughter has definitely formed a bond and seems really fond of her, but I feel like I’ve failed a bit as a parent? Or my daughter isn’t like other 1 year olds.
Do I move her? I’m worried that would unsettle her more... also that the new provider would be wary.
I work shifts so the flexibility the childminder was able to give us was perfect.

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Fefifoefum · 13/06/2019 22:49

Had a chat with the childminder today and I just wish she’d just say yes let’s end it here.
She said she’s not sure what to do, she enjoys my daughter but it’s just too hard. I totally understand that, she’s exhausting but was a TERRIBLE baby so for her not to be attached to me 24/7 and the fact she’ll actually go in a car/pram/cot without screaming endlessly. So for her just to want to be handing me things and reading to her etc is bliss compared to the first year of her life.
I’ve obviously really tried to prepare her, it took me months to get her to nap in her cot and not on me, I am really trying to encourage independence.
I’m just very confused with her response, she’s said perhaps we try until the end of term and through the summer.,,11 weeks, but then surely my daughter will settle more and then what if she’s still requiring a lot that we’llbe In the same situation.
Not sure I can deal with the uncertainty. I’ve booked to view a local nursery on Tuesday. So I’ll see how that feels/what they’ll be able to do with flexibility.
Two days a week would really make finances tight, I work full time, but my shifts change weekly, I’d sort of agreed one day a week to work a week, my mum does another day that moves and then I do one day at the weekend, picking up another shift just wouldn’t be viable, I work in a high pressure area, I’d burn out.

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ArthurMc · 14/06/2019 09:32

Have you looked at other CM? My son has been through 2 nursery and two CM. The second CM has been the making of him.

Branleuse · 14/06/2019 09:48

She sounds well within the realms of normal, but your childminder cant give her the sort of one to one attention she clearly needs, so maybe she is right, that you need a nanny if a parent or grandparent cant watch her.

Eastie77 · 10/07/2019 17:05

If she’s offering to keep trying for another 11 weeks perhaps she thinks she can turn the situation around but agree she seems to be sending mixed messages. In your shoes I'd look at differnt options.

DD was really hard work and our CM made no bones about letting us know however at the same time she also stressed she could cope (she has 25+ years experience and has dealt with lots of little personalities) so despite the comments I often got about DD being grumpy, difficult etc I never felt as if the CM didn’t want to keep looking after her. DD eventually settled and now worships the ground CM walks on.

itsaboojum · 11/07/2019 10:09

Good that you’ve had that first talk: communication is key. On the face of it, it looks like you both want to end the arrangement but neither of you want to be the one to say so: like you each want the other to end it.

On the other hand, I can see plenty of positives in persistence if you can find a way, and potential problems with moving on to a different childcare provider. You highlight how remarkably well bonded your daughter is, all things considered, and you appear to understand how unsettling a move is likely to be. Then there’s the practical side of things: will some other childcare provider be able to offer the same flexibility around your shifts that is so vital to you?

Wherever you go, many of the issues will go with you: she will still be the same "higher needs child" as you say, and the small number of attendance days will remain a problem.

Without wanting to start another futile 'nursery versus childminder' debate, I think it is over-simplistic to assume that switching to a nursery will be the panacea to all your ills.

It is all too easy to assume there’ll always be someone there ready, willing and able to comfort and carry your child around...... until you encounter the reality of many nurseries. IME that doesn’t always happen.

You don’t have to look any further than the mumsnet threads for examples, currently:-

  • a child reported as having lost a fingernail trapped in a door, while the member of staff responsible for him wasn’t present

*a nursery worker allegedly shouting at children; she then told other staff not to comfort upset children

  • a nursery worker saying she is "scared something terrible will happen one day" because she is left alone with 6 to 12 babies and the manager gets snappy whenever she asks for help.

I’m not saying this is every nursery, but it shows that you cannot assume a nursery will give better attention.

One good thing about your current childminder is that she has been honest about the situation. I know nursery staff who aren’t allowed to be so candid. At best, they are 'encouraged to speak positively to parents'. At worst, they are under their manager's instructions to tell parents their children have been "fine" all day and not to worry them: what the eye doesn’t see, and all that....

I have to say that’s particularly good advice from QueenBlueberries.

You need another conversation with your childminder in which you are both prepared to say if you want to end the arrangement. Or both agree a date by which you need to see clearly defined improvements achieved. Look into other options, including a truly good nursery, other childminder, or nanny if you can stretch to the higher cost. Ask if your childminder can recommend another registered childcare provider, or if she would consider employing an assistant to share the load a little.

Fefifoefum · 12/07/2019 22:50

I just wanted to update in case anybody else was in the same situation. My daughter has been in nursery for 3 weeks now.
It’s been a huge success, no tears at drop off/pick up which we always had with the childminder. All the other children in her room are around the same age and I think that really helps.
The staff are stroking her face to get her to sleep and she’s napping for a good hour each day. Eating all her food and is seemingly really happy.
I’d always been very pro childminder and anti nursery but the local nursery seems lovely, some of the staff have been there over a decade which I think is always good, and it’s really worked out for us!

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SMaCM · 13/07/2019 07:07

I'm so glad you have found a good solution. Different places work for different children.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/07/2019 15:58

Was reading through and thinking dd needs to go elsewhere as thought cm being honest saying she is struggling she isn’t saying she doesn’t want her. 3 children 2 and under is hard work and add in a toddler who can’t self settle and needs more help then a nursery may help as more adults

Read your last reply and that has happened

Glad all sorted

Was cm surprised when you handed notice in

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