Paying another mum to take my child home

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A mum of another child in my son's class has offered to take him home from school once a week along with her own daughter because she wants to earn a bit of cash. She'll take him to her house for about 3 hours and give him tea while I'm at work.
When I was thinking about how much to pay I thought it wouldn't need to be the full rate I'd pay a nanny as they're going to her house and she is picking up from school anyway.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what a reasonable offer would be per week please? ( it's not London, average cost area).

It amazes me on so many other posts we hear about the costs of childcare being too high etc. yet a friend without over heads is worth paying more than someone with overheads, qualifications, insurance etc. How is someone getting paid over the going rate of professional care doing another a favour?

Jannier - no she wouldn't as it's not illegal to use an unregistered childminder only to be one.

It wouldn't be something I would do though as I wouldn't want a friend to be at risk of prosecution.

The law says a friend can do a mutual favour. The problem here is that it is not a mutual favour, it is providing childcare for reward.

There is a way around the legislation - your friend comes to your home and provides the care there, like a babysitter/nanny.

underneaththeash - If a child is injured and it comes out you have knowingly put them in a car that is not insured it can be deemed putting a child at risk - any car that is used for transporting children for reward must have the correct insurance.
If you use unregistered care who then starts having more and more children (as many do) and a child gets hurt you have knowingly put them at risk many of the reports of childminders over minding in my area are not actually childminders but illegals with numerous children who started off with doing a favour for a friend and because they got away with one now have 6 and unlike registered care is making and keeping every penny of the fee they charge so are actually on £30 to £50 an hour. No tax, no insurance, no first aid, and some don't even have toys just a tv. (incidentally their homes are not insured either so if they own them and have a fire or break in they cant claim on their household insurance legally either) It is a parents legal duty to protect their child if a child gets hurt in the care of others they do get investigated (I have had the children removed from illegal childcare after an injury the investigation took 4 weeks and the parents were looked at).

A registered childminder typically earns between £4 and £7 an hour after costs.

Keep it informal and ask her what she wants. Then if it's too much it's negotiable, people usually ask for more than they expect to get, to allow for haggling.

In using unregistered care, you have no way (and no legal right) to know if the person is safe, if their premises are safe, who else might have contact with your child when you're not there.

You have to take the person on trust, but how trustworthy can you really say they are? By definition, they are already deceiving people like the childcare regulators, HMRC, their insurance company, and others. If they'll deceive big organisations like these, they sure as " " lie to mums.

We've had some unpleasant cases locally. One of these 'helpful mums' left other people's children in the back area of the family chip shop whilst she worked front of shop.

Another had around a dozen children, even though most the mums thought it was just one or two. She covered what she was doing by often leaving some of them across the road with her housebound elderly mother.

It makes me the laugh the amount of people saying it's illegal when it's common practice in rl

So is shoplifting but it doesn’t stop people pointing out it’s illegal

It used to be common for a woman to take in kids keep them in a room with nothing to do while parents worked thankfully we are moving away from the tie the babies to a chair days.
This woman is not doing one child for a bit of money because the going rate for one child on an odd day would not be worth it she is obviously going to be taking as many as she can, you don't break the law every week for a £10......and as I already asked why would you pay someone you don't know who is breaking the law and not got any insurance the same rate as someone who has been police checked offers activities has first aid and insurance?