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Having Au Pair issues, is my host family bad?

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lucelline · 10/01/2018 10:31

Do you ever get a feeling in your gut that something isn’t right, yet you can’t tell if you’re just dramatising, or if something is indeed wrong? That’s what’s been happening to me, therefore I feel I need an outsider’s point of view about my issue.
Basically, I’m 18, and I’ve been an Au Pair in Europe for a bit more than 3 months already. The first few weeks were lovely, since everything was new and thus exciting to me. I’m living in Poland, but I didn’t go anywhere during my first 2 months. My host family is always extremely busy and doesn’t go anywhere except the office they work in at Warsaw. They have a 15-month old, who I’m taking care of. You can imagine that 6 hours with a one-year old is pretty exhausting as it requires very intensive care. I’m lucky I’m a pretty patient person, but no one has unlimited patience.
There are a few things that have been bothering me more and more each day, yet I’m not sure if I have the right to “complain” about these. Here’s the thing: the family sees me only as a “house worker” instead of another member of the family, which makes me uncomfortable since we both agreed this experience would be to share cultures and be an “older sister” of the baby, but they’re treating me like a nanny more than an actual Au Pair (and there’s a difference between both!). Whenever I try to interact more with the family and be more personal with them they’re polite, yet the cold/distanced/bare-minimum type of polite. The father actually seems annoyed, he doesn’t even try to hide it anymore, when I try to speak with him. I normally don’t see them much because they’re always working, and on weekends when they do have both days off I’m required to work Saturdays and Sundays. Sometimes I feel they don’t really care or want to spend time with their baby, they go to a separate room and shut themselves in there (I’ve seen them just watching movies or listening to music) while I work in the days I’m supposed to have off. Also, I’m required to give Spanish classes for an hour, 5 time a week to the mother’s parents. This wouldn’t bother me, if they actually paid me for it...! Because I’m getting paid what any other Au Pair gets paid just for taking care of children, yet on top of that I need to give Spanish classes to the parents, so I’m basically doing that for free. And when I do go out to meet friends in Warsaw, which doesn’t happen a lot, my host family set me a curfew of 9pm, which irritates me a bit since I normally don’t go out anyway, and it takes me an hour to go and return to/from Warsaw from where I live. I feel I spend more time at home than outside (I would rather have a balance or at least more time to explore the country), and it makes me uncomfortable that I came 8,000+ km from my country just to spend it in another house for most part of the day. When I asked if I could register for Polish classes the mother didn’t encourage me to learn the language, and when I told her I found a nice place where I could learn Polish she seemed disappointed when I wanted to join them. At night, which is the only time when I can talk to my family since they live in the other side of the world, the family shuts off the WiFi. So I have to pay my own money to be able to talk to my family in the only time I get.
These things have been getting worse each time and I feel the family doesn’t care about my well-being at all, they just want me to be healthy to be able to take care of their son. Or more like, raise their son, as I’m pretty sure the mother has not changed a single diaper since I started working here. Each day I feel less motivated to stay here, yet I’ve no idea what to do, or if my problems are actually valid. My family often tells me that “it’s just how life is” when I tell them I’m getting a bit tired and that I need some days off. I’m thinking of switching host families, but for now I’d just like insightful feedback on the situation?

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KayaG · 17/01/2018 07:43

Tell them that you will be leaving on that date and it's up to them to make arrangements.

Don't get into a debate about it, they sound vile.

QuitMoaning · 17/01/2018 07:48

I used to have au pairs when my son was younger and some of them were fabulous and very much part of the family. Some of them just didn’t work, could have been them (one was definitely them) or me but it wasn’t right so we would end the relationship but I always ensured they were safe and had everything they needed until they left.

When the relationship is right, you will know. When my favourite left, my son and I absolutely sobbed all the way home from the airport.

Footle · 17/01/2018 07:50

Take the baby to his grandparents and leave.

RestingBitchFaced · 17/01/2018 08:04

They can't make you stay! Just leave, and if they carry on like this I would be tempted to leave right now, and not even stay the month. Don't let them bully you

ClareB83 · 17/01/2018 08:05

Remember if you get into any trouble you can always contact the British Embassy as well.

I would be very tempted to leave early. Flights are often cheap if you pay at the airport to leave right then. (I had to do this in China years ago after getting into a sticky situation.)

Definitely make it clear you are expected and family etc know where you are.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 17/01/2018 08:06

I agree with pp. Just leave. If you were my daughter I would come and get you myself!

lucelline · 17/01/2018 08:12

Yes, I have my passport and visa with me. My new family would actually be delighted if I came sooner, they know about my situation here and already accepted me unconditionally (they’re very understanding). The thing is yesterday I did tell my current host mum that I am leaving the 17th, not asking for her permission, just as a solid and direct fact, and that’s what made her angry. She said I should’ve at least asked her if that date was okay, but I already told her I’d give her a month. Then she proceeded to say she didn’t understand why I was so unhappy, and then said we “agreed” that I’d be staying longer before I came here, and that I “broke” that promise. I told her I have family in Spain (which is actually true) and that they would want me to go to Spain because they’re concerned about me and want to be closer to me (which is also true, I’ll be going to Alicante where my new host family lives) and she told me I have to speak with my family and tell them to “reset” the dates because I “can’t be leaving that soon.” She also guilt-tripped me (she’s good at that) in telling me she paid for half of the ticket, which “cost her a lot of money.” I had to bite my tongue to not tell her it cost my family 4 months of salary to be able to pay the other half as well.

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mogloveseggs · 17/01/2018 08:15

I think in your shoes I’d be going right now not waiting a month!

HarrietSpecter · 17/01/2018 08:17

OP - I'm in the UK and we have au pairs come and stay, we treat them as one of our family, and what you have described is wrong and very worrying.
If you were my daughter, I would come and get you out of there today! Please leave as soon as you can.
Also - make sure you keep your passport with you, I don't mean to sound dramatic, but your host family sound very strange, and they may try and find your passport to make you stay.
Make sure your own friends and family know what is happening, and if you ever fear for your safety, please go to a police station or your embassy.
I'm sure your next family will be lovely!

Lemongincosy · 17/01/2018 08:20

@lucelline leave now. There is absolutely nothing that she can do and any ‘promises’ don’t come into it.

She is playing games with you and taking advantage of your age and vulnerable position away from home by trying to guilt trip you.

I would walk out and tell your family to expect you. Be tough - it will be worth it and you won’t have to see her again.

Alicante will be lovely - there is no reason for you to put up with this creepy woman another day. Or second actually!

lucelline · 17/01/2018 08:21

My (real) family lives and comes from Venezuela, things are horrendous there currently, if my mum could afford it she’d just come here and pick me up, but since that’s not a possibility for us financially we deal with things through long, late-night Skype talks. She’s more of a pacifist, she obviously wants me to get out because she loves and cares about me health, but I also agreed on sending them my January salary to them because they need to money right now and I want to help them. That’s pretty much the only reason holding me back from leaving after the month ends. She asked me to talk with my host mum and find a solution that would benefit us both and that isn’t damaging to my health, I’ve tried three times and failed all of them! I’m talking with her today one more time when she comes from work, if things don’t go well then my mum agreed she’s Skype with my host mum, perhaps she will respect her more than she respects me.

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DrRanjsRightEyebrow · 17/01/2018 08:22

I would say you are leaving on the 17th unless an earlier date proves more convenient for them. You are not obliged to stay longer, don't let them bully you into it, you need to be thick skinned about this. And if she kicks off then just leave immediately. Go to your friends in Warsaw then make your move from there. I would keep your stuff mostly packed in case you need to make a swift exit.

DrRanjsRightEyebrow · 17/01/2018 08:25

I sympathise with the situation in Venezuela. But it's unfair to stay in an awful situation for the money and put your offer of a new, better position at risk. Can you talk to the Alicante family and explain and see if you can work out a way that you can get to them and your family in Venezuela won't miss out?

Lemongincosy · 17/01/2018 08:25

Definitely get mum to speak with the host person.

If it comes to it and you need to get through this month, tell host you will stay longer but in reality make sure you have everything set up to go to new family and leave the second you get your salary. You seem like a lovely girl in a rubbish situation with this family but sometimes needs must - so make sure you manage the situation to get the best result for you. This woman is not your problem unless she’s paying you and treating you fairly.

lucelline · 17/01/2018 08:25

I honestly cannot thank all of you enough for your comments and advice, I feel a hundred times more appreciated by each and every one of you more than my own host family! I’ll say how everything goes after my talk with her, or when I actually get to leave this place. I really appreciate each and every one of you who has helped me, you have no idea! (Also, for those a bit confused on my whereabouts, I’m an Au Pair in Poland, not GB/the UK!)

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Footle · 17/01/2018 08:29

She's not a host mum, she's an untrustworthy bully. Your only obligation is to yourself and your own family. The sooner you start your new job the sooner you can start sending the money you earn there.

spiney · 17/01/2018 08:46

Your employers and that's what they are, not hosts, are bullying you and taking advantage of you. They are exploiting the fact you are young and maybe a bit inexperienced.

They do not own you, you are not enslaved. You gave them notice. You CAN leave. Anything else is wrong.

Good Luck.

parklives · 17/01/2018 08:54

Look after your passport Luce can you make sure you have it locked away or on you at all times.
I agree with some posters that you should just leave now, but completely understand why you don't want to.
All the best for the new job!

EggsonHeads · 17/01/2018 09:00

Well don't they sound charming, I wouldn't dream of treating even a live in nanny like this let alone an au pair. I would leave/look for a different family.

meandmytinfoilhat · 17/01/2018 09:01

I would look for another family OP.

bunbunny · 17/01/2018 09:26

I would also start working out how many extra hours/days you have worked over those you were supposed to have done over the ones that you were contracted to do - and the ones that you are being paid to do.

For example the weekend days that you are supposed to have had off but that you worked - have they paid you? If not give them the option of paying you for the extra time you have already done or taking the days off as leave at the end of your contract enabling you to leave earlier. And for the weekend days remaining - depending on what you want to do - say that you are going to eork to the contract hours but are happy to negotiate working more hours up front and leaving earlier, being paid for all the hours you work (asking for time and a half is probably pushing it but maybe pointing out that it would be normal to get this for extra work and they are the ones that are being unreasonable to expect all this extra work for free) or just working to your contract.

As you said it does sound like they are expecting a lot more from you than they are willing to pay for. What would have happened if you said no I have plans for my day off - I'm not going to work for you for free today?

Second the advice everyone else has given about making sure you have your passport and visas etc safe and making sure that they pay you at the end of your stay.

Lemongincosy · 17/01/2018 09:41

Also @lucelline if you’re not feeling able at the moment to stand up to this bitch (understandably as you’ve had a bad time) then just don’t engage with discussion. Tell her yes yes sure nod and make your plans with host family - leave as soon as they can have you. It doesn’t need to be discussed with moron mother. X

Lisette40 · 17/01/2018 09:54

My heart goes out to you Luce. I gave my notice to a mother once and she became abusive so I just walked. I'd rather have worked my notice but sometimes the work environment is such that you're drained by being there. My family had had a procession of childcare workers, each leaving relatively quickly. I hope you are in a more caring environment soon.

Ohyesiam · 17/01/2018 10:04

Op. It sounds to me that you need to leave as soon as possible. The host family are treating you as a possession, and using anger to control you. You are doing nothing wrong, you gave then a month notice, ofe they chose to ignore it, that is their problem.
They have ignored your needs and wants, and refuse to listen to your side of the situation. I am concerned for your safety. Don't think you can please them, or stop them being angry, it's just how they control things. You are doing nothing wrong, and they cannot make you stay.
If you left today, you would have an immense sense of freedom and happiness, and they would have to spend a few days looking after their own child until another au pair could be found, which is not such a terrible thing.
Keep your passport and visa on you at all times.
You started by saying that you knew in your gut that something was not right. You have very good instincts, and you can trust yourself to always listen to them.

It is hard at the beginning of adult life to know that you can take control of a situation. You have spent 18 years as a child, having to do as you are asked. now you are an adult you can act on that gut feeling, stand up for yourself, and walk away from bad situations.
Best of luck op. Keep posting and keep yourself safe.

FlyingwithBaby · 17/01/2018 10:12

I am so sorry that you have experienced this. It sounds like you should leave as soon as possible. There are some lovely families who will value your help as an au pair.
I hope that your next job is much better.
All the best and very well done for being so strong!

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