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Tax deductable childcare for all working parents

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eleusis · 13/02/2007 12:14

I think the income which one spends on childcare in order to go to work ought to be tax free. So, if I earn £35,000 and spend £12,500 paying my nanny, childminder, or nursery fees, then I should pay income tax on £22,500 that year.

Do you agree?

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eleusis · 13/02/2007 13:00

Because it might enabke mrs joe bloggs to work andpay some tax of her own.

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fannyannie · 13/02/2007 13:02

I get paid badly enough for the work I do already without feeling that someone (who probably works fewer hours for the same pay) isn't paying as much tax on their income - so they pay less tax and work fewer hours - now that really WOULD make me feel great............not

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 13:02

i agree fannyannie

ssd · 13/02/2007 13:03

thanks

will try M&S at Breahead

can you thell me what rate of pay I'd get??

I get £5.55 at monsoon on a sunday [told you it's crap!!]

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 13:04

what about people who get FREE childcare?

work 9-5 mon-fri and dont pay a bean for childcare

thats the best of both worlds

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ssd · 13/02/2007 13:09

I know!!

nailpolish I'm very jealous of people like that to the point its a horrible obsession of mine (along with people who have family nearby who regularly take the kids)

anyway sorry for hijack

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 13:13

yes same here ssd, some people have a marvellous support system of relatives but still moan

ssd · 13/02/2007 13:16

agree

agree

agree

don't get me started I can rant for hours about this one

BTW did your dd's enjoy the ballet at Xmas?

I remember you posting a giver sent you money for the tickets, thought this was lovely!

I get sent lots of great stuff, am still in awe of Soapy!

eleusis · 13/02/2007 13:17

What I am trying to capture here is the people who make an okay living but can't afford to go to work. The government is turning a blind eye and pretend these people don't exist. But, I think they are a huge part of the population. I'm talking about people who are say married and make £70,000. Or even single and make say £50,000. I'm talking about people who want to work and can't.

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ssd · 13/02/2007 13:19

I want to work and can't get anything that pays more than 5 pounds bloody 50 an hour

and childcare is 6 per hour

if I or dh earned anywhere near 50 grand we'd be loaded

see what you're on about uwila but wanted to add some work just doesn't pay at all

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 13:19

your figures are laughable, sorry

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 13:20

not you ssd

eleusis'

pollyanna · 13/02/2007 13:22

Does anyone know what the position is in Sweden and all those other (apparently) more family-friendly countries?

It seems that there isn't an easy answer - perhaps we should all get a big tax allowance for each child we have. I have recently gone back to work in a reasonably well-paid job (but not megabucks!) and I know that I am barely making any money. It is a dilemma, because I'm also not doing it because I love it, more because I was going mad being in the house all day, and if I wanted to leave the children, I had to cover childcare costs. I do wonder whether it's worth it though.

pollyanna · 13/02/2007 13:23

eleuis, most people are lucky to make £30k .

pollyanna · 13/02/2007 13:24

(between them).

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fannyannie · 13/02/2007 13:24

"I'm talking about people who are say married and make £70,000. Or even single and make say £50,000."

ROFLMAO - sorry but if you're talking about people on those sorts of incomes then I can't believe I actually took this thread seriously

eleusis · 13/02/2007 13:24

Fair enough SSD. I am by no means accusing you of being rich. But, the point is that people's childcare costs are so high in this country that those who make what would otherwise be a lot are actually taxed so much that they are not only not rich, but can't even pay the utility bills. This group needs to be addressed if Gorndon Brown wants them to go to work and pay the bills (Gordon's bills).

I hear more and more people getting more and more fed up with the taxes in this country. I think Labour might lose the next General election.

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eleusis · 13/02/2007 13:26

See, you think it;'s a lot of money. You need to run the numbers and look at what is left at the end of the month.

Say 2 adults and two children living in one house where each adult goes to work full time and makes 35k gross.

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DizzyBint · 13/02/2007 13:27

m&s basic rate is £5.75 i think, then goes up to near £5.90 after first 6 months (after basic training). then you can go on to be a coach (about a pound more per hour) then team co ordinators start on about a pound more than coaches. you also get 20% staff discount and staff shop is 50% off everything (stuff going out of date that day or next day, or damaged etc, so you can fill your freezer with top notch stuff for almost nothing!)

fannyannie · 13/02/2007 13:27

they probably have a lot more left over than we do on £24k a year (joint) with no childcare costs........

ssd · 13/02/2007 13:27

no nailpolish, my figures are laughable!

if I didn't laugh I'd cry

I gave up a goodish job to bring the kids up myself

now I'm looking at cleaning/ironing jobs that might fit in around their school holidays

don't blame anyone for my desicions {SP??} but boy I'd live term time job that I enjoyed and actually used what small part of my brain I have left before it dries up altogether

DizzyBint · 13/02/2007 13:27

sunday is time and a half.

ssd · 13/02/2007 13:28

uwlia I'm not getting at you at all, can see your point too

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