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Minimum £72k salary required to allow me to take home same as my 19 year old nanny

266 replies

knakered · 10/02/2007 10:02

Nanny nick has done the "big sums"...so we need to earn £72k to to take home the same as my nanny - lets not get into disposable income...4 kids/mortgage etc...vs living at homewith parents ..ho ..hum..

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expatinscotland · 13/02/2007 10:19

Hamster maintenance is expensive these days, too.

FioFio · 13/02/2007 10:20

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nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:22

Fio could you manage a small stiff gin....?

jura · 13/02/2007 10:25

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Cappuccino · 13/02/2007 10:29

I think what comes across in this thread is a feeling that nannying or childcare is some kind of semi/low-skilled profession

that it's astonishing that a single person, nannying, should have much of a take-home pay at all compared with someone who has a 'proper job'

asking someone to look after and take responsibility for your children is one of the most precious jobs you can entrust to anyone

after sitting with dd on her recent nursery induction visits and watching what goes on I have wondered why they aren't paying the nursery nurses twice as much to deal with all these children. They never sit down. It seems a good deal harder than my nice white-collar job where I sit on my arse drinking hot coffee and having vague conversations with nice grown-ups about press releases

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:31

well put Capp!

FioFio · 13/02/2007 10:32

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BrummieOnTheRun · 13/02/2007 10:33

nailpolish, basic costs = tax & NICs, mortgage, food shopping, ground rent/service charge, council tax, utilities, commute, car & contents insurance, life assurance, small credit card debt, childcare x 3 (yes, I've already been told we were stupid to have 3 kids under school-age).

I don't think there's anything unusual there. we're a fairly normal family of soon-to-be 5 living in the south east.

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:35

brummie - you dont need 100k for all that

a car for starters

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:36

brummie read Fios post of 10:20:31

ScottishThistle · 13/02/2007 10:36

£100k per annum...now don't make me laugh!

Perhaps you should move to Scotland!

BrummieOnTheRun · 13/02/2007 10:40

I was NOT suggesting that higher income families have the same problems as lower income families. But that it is ALSO a problem higher up the salary level. jesus, is this a witch hunt?

what on earth is the problem with suggesting that having universally affordable childcare, dealt with through the tax system, should be a political priority?

FioFio · 13/02/2007 10:40

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nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:41

you must spend on different things than i do brummie

we live on around 30k

and have all the things you suggested apart from a car

are you say ing it wouldnt improve if i had another 70k

BrummieOnTheRun · 13/02/2007 10:44

why so hung up on my and DH's salaries?

expatinscotland · 13/02/2007 10:45

It would improve, naily, with £70k more, but only if you didn't have to pay it out to nannies and that.

I mean, you wouldn't want to compromise your holidays, would you?

Enid · 13/02/2007 10:45

oh go on brummie post your basic costs

am fascinated

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:45

"we'll just be covering basic costs on a household income of 100K"

thats why brummie

Aloha · 13/02/2007 10:45

I don't think anyone really thinks childcarers are overpaid, but the problem is their salaries are paid out of our already taxed income, which means it is very difficult for many people to afford it. Yes, children are 'optional' (though I do think it is a bit much to compare having a family to having a heroin habit) but someone has to have them! And the truth is, a lot of people are so freaked by the costs of having children (on top of the already horrific costs of property etc) that they ares simply not having any, and that is not good news for the country IMO, or even for individuals.
I think it is valid to say that the OP will, in ten years, still be earning a lot of money and have more independent children so lower childcare bills, while the nanny's salary is unlikely to have changed much, but I still think childcare should be tax-deductible.

FioFio · 13/02/2007 10:47

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ScottishThistle · 13/02/2007 10:47

I don't think anyone is hung up on your salary but how can some families survive quite nicely on £30-40k & you are struggling on £100k?...It doesn't make sense!

FioFio · 13/02/2007 10:47

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Enid · 13/02/2007 10:47

isnt knakered stripping at her wedding?

oh am so confused

nailpolish · 13/02/2007 10:48

lol Enid