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new nanny - AIBU?

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trumpisanotherwordfor · 05/06/2016 21:21

DD is 17mo. I have mostly looked after her myself until now, but I have started back at work for three days a week and have employed a Nanny for those days.

I’m not sure if it’s because I’m unassertive or give the impression that I don’t know what I am doing but this Nanny is insisting that she is right and I am wrong about some aspects of DD care.

I’ll try and give some examples.

When DD eats she likes each food type separately. If she’s having chicken, potatoes and vegetables, she doesn’t mind the order they come in, but she doesn’t want them all on one plate.. The nanny insists on giving them to her all on one plate. This, for some reason, upsets DD and she refuses to eat any of it, which leads to the nanny telling me she is a bad eater and that I have spoiled her. I try to explain that she will eat her meals if she’s given each type of food separately, but the nanny says that it is not rational and that she is going to continue to give it to her all together until she gets so hungry that she eats it. Of course this leads to lots of crying and screaming and – when I have come in, in the middle of it – a tearful, red faced, hungry DD.

DD has a comfort blanket, which is quite cumbersome and dirty, but it's her thing. It’s her main comfort mechanism. But the Nanny hates it during the day (she is fine with it at night) and pulls it away from her every time she picks it up. This leads DD to cry and scream needlessly, and just creates a problem between them when there doesn’t have to be one. I keep telling her that I am okay with it and want DD to continue to carry it around, but it doesn't seem to change anything.

If DD cries because she’s tired or someone won’t pick her up, the Nanny says things to her like “ grow up and be a big girl.” Or “no I’m not picking you up, you’re being a baby.” Of course, DD cries again. This is doing nothing to bond the nanny and DD and that’s exactly what I want to happen to reassure me now I’m back at work.

The Nanny doesn’t like food wastage, nor to buy any fresh food for DD even though I offer her money specifically to do it. She likes DD to eat leftovers from mine and DH’s meals. So she reheats a lot of food and gives it to DD for lunch and dinner. This is fine to a point, but sometimes she does it without checking best before dates and gives DD stuff beyond best before. She reheats a lot of chicken and rice, which I’m just not comfortable with for DD.

She can’t seem to spend time with DD without being given an activity to do. Eg, she loses patience quickly just in a room with DD and her toys. She craves to go out and go to different things with DD, like different softplays, different parks, different playdates. I can’t/don't have the time to provide all this for her, and don't actually want it. I actually I don’t think DD needs to be constantly stimulated by external things. DD is good at imaginary play, like pouring tea for her teddies, but I understand that not everyone is into that. Are they?

I feel like a lot of this is because the Nanny thinks she is doing me a favour by giving me some childcare hacks to make my life easier outside of work. I don't think she's a bad nanny at all. She has been great with DD in many other ways.

I understand I am probably being a bit PFB, but ultimately this nanny is only three weeks in the job and surely she should be listening to me a bit more or trying to do what I want?

Do you think IABU?

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SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 06/06/2016 03:46

That nanny wouldn't be crossing my door step again I'm afraid. Did you use an agency? If so, be sure to tell them why the arrangement hasn't worked out!

CheerfulYank · 06/06/2016 04:12

Oh how silly. I am a childminder and I care for a three year old who sometimes still wants his comfort blankie. I let him have it. Why not?

HSMMaCM · 06/06/2016 09:02

A good nanny will work with you, not against you. I suspect many would start to work towards having more than one food on a plate, but they would do that in agreement with you.

I have minded children with specific ways of doing things and I have worked with their parents towards a common agreed goal. I could have said my setting, my rules, but that is not best for the child.

Kanga59 · 06/06/2016 09:03

Didn't get through your whole post but didn't need to. and you're employing this person why?

PrimalLass · 06/06/2016 09:05

so basically you expect your nanny to pander to your daughter the same way you do?

yes, because that's what she's being paid to do

PoisonWitch · 06/06/2016 09:05

Get a new nanny. She sounds like a dick.

WellErrr · 06/06/2016 09:06

17 months old IS a baby.

lilydaisyrose · 06/06/2016 09:06

My daughter is nearly 9 and still likes to eat one thing at a time then move onto the next thing (all together on a plate though!). She sounds uncaring and pompous OP, please update us when you can.

TinyTear · 06/06/2016 09:17

That is not pandering... my 4 yo sometimes still eats things in turn (albeit in the same plate) and likes her cheese on the side for the bolognese to add when she wants so it doesn't melt too much as she doesn't like melted cheese...
no skin off my nose to do it as long as she eats...

that nanny would be out the door in no time and would not get a reference!

EarthboundMisfit · 06/06/2016 09:20

The playing and not picking up would be enough for me to find a new nanny.

Araminkin · 06/06/2016 11:55

I still like eating things one thing at a time...and I'm an adult Blush (though I do have them all on one plate...phew!) I think you need a new nanny.

Artistic · 06/06/2016 13:54

My 9 year old DD still uses her comfort blanket (and cries if her toddler sister pulls it away). Ridiculous to deny a baby her comfort blanket.

Do tell us how to plan to exact revenge from this crazy nanny?!

Buggers · 06/06/2016 13:58

That is awful BUT the food with the plates is ridiculous, what do you do if you all go out to eat at a restaurant?! Sack the nanny - why on earth is she working with kids when she clearly doesn't like them!!Hmm

CallMeMousie · 06/06/2016 14:06

Where is she from? I think outside the UK nannies can see their roles quite differently to what we would expect here. Not that that's an excuse! She doesn't sound great and I would get rid of her too I'm afraid. Your child is the most important thing, not the nanny's opinion!

donkir · 06/06/2016 14:28

I'm qualified in childcare and worked as a nanny for various families over 17years and I'd get rid of the nanny.
I also have a 16 month old ds who has a comforter and there is no way I would let anyone take it from him especially if I was leaving him with a nanny for the first time as that's when he'd need it the most.
The food would be an issue for me as it would hinder going to eat out at places. Having said that I would discuss with my boss and work out a plan on how to tackle it together over a period of time.
I also find nannys that go to soft play a lot go there so they don't have to deal with the child as there's lots of things to do.

Karoleann · 06/06/2016 14:41

She should be listening to you, you are right. Its up to you how you want to bring up your child, not your employee (especially not an employee who risking giving her botulism by re-heating up rice). She obviously can't be bother cooking or even playing with your daughter.

If you can get some parental leave from work, I would sit down with her tonight and give a week's notice and just pay in lieu of notice. You can always get a temp nanny whilst you look for someone permanent.

Blondeshavemorefun · 06/06/2016 23:00

As others have said get rid of this nanny

The eating food Sep is ok but ideally needs to be on one plate and then dd can eat all the meat then the veg then the pasta etc

Not wanting to play or cuddle a toddler is very Strange :(

Comfort blankets - again once in a job I tend to try and wean the child off them inside the home and have in bedroom / asleep

Any changes - this is all done with the parents consent

She may be a good nanny but she isn't right for your family

Where did you get her from?

Did you check her ref? Talk to ex employers

Nicadooby · 07/06/2016 09:45

Having been a nanny for 15 years you need to get rid of her!

She sounds uncaring and unprofessional.

I think she needs a new career tbh

ElleGrace · 07/06/2016 20:54

I have worked as a nanny in the past and am now a registered childminder and I would never go against a parents wishes like this.
The only possible explanation for her behaviour that I can give is that she may usually look after older children and doesn't understand that your DD is far too young for some of these rules. At 17 months, your DD will not have the cognitive ability to understand why she can't have her teddy outside of the bedroom, or why she has to have her food in a different way to how she likes it and the nanny doesn't seem to understand that.
I think the more pressing issue is that she doesn't seem to think you are an adequate parent otherwise she would be listening to your wishes! At the end of the day she is your child, so she must listen to your rules, especially when in your house.
I do have a 3 y o boy that I look after who carries around a comfort blanket, it's quite large and I often explain to him that he has to leave it in the house as I don't want to be responsible for cleaning it as it is old and fragile. He is old enough that he understands we can't get his blankie dirty, and even though he sometimes throws tantrums he does on the whole understand the concept and the tantrums are more because he can't have what he wants than because he is genuinely upset.
Your DD's scenario is entirely different- she cannot understand, she is genuinely upset and there doesn't seem to be any reason she cannot have it in the house.
Get rid Hmm

3luckystars · 07/06/2016 21:12

Get rid of her today

venys · 08/06/2016 10:54

New nanny for sure. She doesn't know what she is on about. Also, I would be insisting the new nanny had done a basic course in food hygiene. You can't have her rolling the dice with food poisoning - the only time I have had it I was VERY sick. It would put a 17 month old in hospital for sure

WhatchaMaCalllit · 08/06/2016 11:01

I'll start by saying that I think the nanny is right in relation to serving all of the food on the same plate and not having different plates for different foods.

However, everything else is screaming at me to say to you change your nanny and get a new one.

I'd have to agree with Blondes post above. Did you contact any of her previous employers and get their feedback on her work with them?

alltouchedout · 08/06/2016 11:04

I assumed that one of the reasons people pay for nannies is because they want more control over the care their dc gets than if they used a cm or nursery. It's your dc, the nanny can do things they way you want or she can go. In any case this particular nanny sounds unpleasant and unkind and I would not want her around my dc at all.

jkdnanny · 08/06/2016 13:45

The nanny sounds very harsh tbh. It's not necessarily what she's aiming for (ie food on same plate) it's how she's going about it that's harsh. I've been a nanny over 14yrs. I have gone into jobs and slowly changed things. I actually think kids do ok with kids doing one thing with xxx and doing another with yyyy. But she should know how to go about it and wait til a bond has formed. I wouldn't have gone straight into putting all her food on one plate if that wasn't what she was used to and it upset her (some kids just adapt straight away to change and others dont) I would work through ways of her slowly accepting it.
The comforter she's wrong about. I also like to get it so they just have them when sleeping/ill. But I wouldn't change that til a few months in.
The not picking her up is wrong. 17mths is still pretty much a baby imo.
But I'm speaking as a nanny who has been in 5 day 53-60hr roles. So I often have more freedom to change things (and wouldn't change anything the parents were adamant they wanted to keep) I think a 2-3 day nanny needs to just adapt to the family. I would get rid

harshbuttrue1980 · 11/06/2016 18:08

Not cuddling your child is awful, and I would get rid of her for that. Children should have cuddles on tap, and cuddles and affection don't make a child spoilt. About the food on different plates though, I think the nanny was right. The advantage with a professional nanny is that they are firm enough to be able to get rid of those sorts of bad habits, in a firm but fair way. I don't think a nanny should have to pander to a child by bringing lots of plates out separately (and presumably you expect the nanny to wash all the plates??). If she goes to a party, she won't be indulged like that. Nannies should have firm (but kind) boundaries. But the lack of cuddles is enough for her to have to go, as children need affection - if mummy is at work, then they need a nanny/childminder/nursery keyworker who gives affection whenever it is needed.

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