Self enployed nannies

[wizzywig]

hi all. i will be employing a nanny for 10hrs a week. She is working around 20 hours for another family. i thought i would still have to set up payroll as a PAYE employee but hmrc says nanny's who work for 2 families can be self employed. is that right? www.gov.uk/au-pairs-employment-law/nannies

If the job is going to be permanent then you need to employ her. Sort out a gross wage

Im a se nanny but that's coz I do night work plus temp so flit from
Job to job. Sometimes a day - or 3 days like current job - or a few weeks

I decide what days and hours I do and give the family my terms of contract

See I would argue 'can' is actively wrong. Saying a nanny 'can' be self employed, rather than something like 'it can be possible for a nanny to be self employed' implies to me that the choice is with either nanny, parents or both. I take your point about an alternative reading though Yonic.

ok. im reading the general consensus here is to ignore what hmrc have said and whats on their website and to be an employee to my nanny. as its a nannyshare and that involves splitting a tax code, i think it'll be easier to pay an agency to sort out payroll. thank you everyone

No need to split taxcode if you all agree Gross salaries. HMRC will adjust taxcode if both families pay under 10,600 a year, otherwise may allocate all to one family.

Yes, using a nanny payroll company is probably wise, cost is around £150 a year. PayeForNannies gets mentioned on here quite a bit but there are others. I would avoid the cheapest.

I went from years of childminding to doing a bit of everything 'childminding, nannying & babysitting'. I spent ages on the phone being told I couldn't be self employed but I was sure I could due to my circumstances (i.e. not set times/days I was working, we talked to each other and worked out what help I could offer from week to week - it was to help with twins, not for her to work). In the end they directed me to a section on the web where I had to answer questions and at the end it told me if I'd be self employed or employed. Luckily it was self employed so was all fine. I can't remember the link but I've probably still got it printed out at home (to cover my back!) so can check if you can't find the link. I'd look now but I'm out babysitting so it will have to wait (if needed).

Sorry, I didn't see the latest posts for some reason! Looks like you're sorted :)