is ths too much to ask

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our youngest is starting school in sept so we are replacing our full time nanny with a part time one (her choice), just drawing up the job description this looks like an awful lot in 3 hours what do you think
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Part-time Nanny Required

4 days a week 3:30-6:30 term time, 4 days a week 8:15- 6:30 holidays.
Looking after a 4 year old girl and 8 year old boy after school and holidays.
Duties: Planning meals, Cooking meals (you are welcome to also cook for yourself), tidying/cleaning up after them and yourself, encouraging them to tidy up after themselves, washing their clothes, changing beds, washing bedding, driving to after school activities (1 a week each), supervising homework, and playing with the kids, supervising play dates.
Bathing and getting youngest ready for bed
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The after school nannies I know don't do the laundry - any of it. As many have said, there really isn't time once clubs and homework have been accommodated.

Full time nannies, yes - nursery duties are expected.

I disagree with bbc - expectations up front otherwise it all goes pear shaped in my experience.

It does sound a lot but I'd say, standard nanny duties during school holidays and discuss what's achievable during interview with a "How would you structure your week around this requirement?" "Do you think it's manageable?"

I think you should be prepared to add in some extra time to the nanny/cleaner/yourselves to take up some of the slack during term time for the right candidate though. Cleaning a bedroom and changing sheets can easily be done by a cleaner if the nanny has ensured that the two bedrooms have been properly tidied up the evening before?

Ahh i think other people have a different idea of what i meant by cleaning up after them.

I meant ensuring stuff is put away after they have finished playing with it, the kitchen surfaces are wiped down, table wiped down, dirty stuff in dishwasher from activities and making tea, towels put back. On the towel rail after shower nights etc. Not hovering and dusting, the cleaner does do that.

The kids already help strip their own beds, my son does it completely and it is in the machine before the nanny starts in the morning, the youngest stuff gets put in the pile so clean dry stuff is then put on the two beds, so what are we talking 10 mins work?

I think the tricky thing is that by the time someone gets two children home from school, supervises homework, cooks dinner and supervises them eating it, and bathes one there's not a whole lot of time left. It's either chores or playing. Both is unlikely unless your children are highly entertained by bed making. It's made even trickier by two after school activities a week so in reality, there's only two days in which to do the chores or do a bit of batch cooking. Yes, it only takes 10 mins to change a bed but that assumes the bed isn't piled high with children's detritus etc.

I'd call that

Daily Activities
Plan and cook a hot evening meal for the children daily [including yourself if you wish], ensuring kitchen is left clean and tidy.
Supervise homework,
Bath youngest child, ensuring bathroom is left clean and tidy
Quick check to ensure sufficient school uniform in place for remainder of week
Check any required sports equipment/clothing is ready for the morning
Maintain a daily notebook with any relevant updates/injuries/reminders re laundry or school events eg Mufti/Charity days

Weekly Activities
1 weekly after school activity per child
Meal plan for following week leaving list of required ingredients or adding to online supermarket shop
Supervise or drop off at occasional after-school birthday parties
Change bedclothes weekly [/fortnightly so it's one child every other week?].

Periodic Activities [typically during school holidays when FT]
Arrange and supervise play dates
Sort out outgrown and worn out clothing for storage/disposal
Assist with shopping for any "themed" days.
Sort out outgrown or broken toys for disposal
Batch cooking for children

Out of scope for this role
Any cleaning or hoovering, we have a weekly cleaner
Children's laundry. It is the role of the nanny to keep an eye on the school uniform situation and flag it up if less than two days remain.

[maybe that's just me - but unless you have a full set of uniform for every day, you can easily find that a 4 yo has covered a tunic in ketchup three days running and that the whole lot is in the laundry basket at 10pm on a Wednesday night. It's also dead handy if a full load of school uniform goes on directly after school on a Friday so it's not a chore on Sunday night. Depends on the nanny's days though.]

I think that's a lot to expect in short space of time. Either start a load of laundry in the morning yourself and she can hang it when she starts. Cooking a meal should be fine as that's no different to a fulltime nanny fitting in cooking after school runs etc.
Could you have the nanny come a bit earlier to do the nursery duties etc. Changing of the beds I wouldn't say fit into an after school role, but if you have the nanny come earlier so she has some time childfree where she can do stuff.
I have a nanny friend who has 3 school aged charges. They are based 2mins walk from school. Pick up is at 3:15. But my friend starts at 2pm(she finishes at 7pm) She will come in, put a load of laundry in the machine straight away. She also prepares dinner and tidies up a bit.She changes beds once a wk. Pick up is at 3:15 and she brings them home and does the normal-homework/snack/playtime. She will hang the clothes while they have snack time.She then cooks dinner while they watch tv for 20mins. She feeds them and then baths them.

How often are you expecting her to wash/change the bedding?

I would be concerned that in order the get all of the "chores" done, there wouldn't be much time for interaction with the children.

Homework is once a week for the eldest, reading will be 5-10 mins a night.
Bedding once a week, the evening meal is only sarnies or something similar, (school lunches are good quality here).

I have said prev about the washing being hanging up a single load i put on before work (so the re-wording to helping with laundry).

My main concern is the wording, if you lot haven't understood my intentions....

I wouldn't worry too much about detailing housework in the job ad. When you interview nannies you can say you want help with changing beds once a week.
I think once the nannies starts expect her to have a few weeks getting used to children, school and activate runs. After a few weeks she should have time to put a washing machine on IMO.
You are not asking too much.

I am an after school nanny and do all the things on your list. My boss knows though, that if we are busy then the washing gets pushed aside. But it really doesn't take long to stick some clothes in the machine and change the bedding. Just don't be too hard on her if she doesn't get time to do them. Good luck :)

I don't think you need to put this information in the ad either. I would just put 'afterschool and holiday nanny wanted for two children aged 8 and 4' and then obviously pay, hours and location. Nothing that you want is outside of a normal role so everything else can be sorted at the email/interview stage. Maybe do a standard email detailing everything and send that to any interested candidates so you don't waste time explaining it at the interview. It doesn't need to all be in the ad.

I think the real challenge will be finding someone who wants to work part time term time and then full time in the holidays not finding someone who can talk to/entertain a child whilst also hanging washing!

Yes, washing kids clothes and bedding is part of a nanny's role. Anything related to children. In one live in job I wouldmdailynclean the nursery, playroom and bathroom, washed and ironed all the child's clothes, did all her cooking once on real food and often did her shopping too.

Welcome to cook for yourself in brackets felt unwelcome and I can't articulate why. Maybe the brackets make me feel like you hope I wouldn't.