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PERMANENT NIGHTS REGISTERED CHILD MINDER PROBLEM ?

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TROOBLUE1878 · 02/03/2015 01:20

Is there anyone else having problems getting registered child care for 50 hour week ...well i could not find a solution so i employed a friends daughter paid her 25 pound a night but the inland revenue refuses to accept my child care expenses in fact with tunnel tolls fuel for a 70 mile round trip and childcare at 125 pound a week my annual expenses totted up to 11,000 now they want me to pay back £ 3500.00 in overpayment as they say i passed through the £29000 barrier......what a mess .

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/03/2015 13:06

£25 per night. Well if you employed her then you need to do nmw at a bare minimum / which you havnt - so that's illegal

I work nights and earn over 5times what you are paying a night !!! Ie one night of me is more then you are paying per week !!!!

As others have said to claim back childcare you need to you a registered childcarer - who would charge much more

Put this down to a lesson learnt

And if you have earnt over £29k then you need to pay more tax

Certain exspenses can be taken off to reduce tax bill but not childcare in this instance

FiftyShadesOfGreen4205 · 03/03/2015 13:13

I pay my childminder more than double that for a daily rate. I imagine if you had a registered CM who agreed nights, you'd pay a premium.

Can you find work that doesn't require nights? Not always easy I know but nighttime childcare if you don't have family support is very elusive.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/03/2015 16:47

op said she couldnt find registered childcare for a 50hr week, i assume she means mon to fri 8-6, so went for night work

not sure why op found it hard to find a registered nanny/cm

LineRunner · 03/03/2015 17:03

Keep to what thread? You haven't said what what you are being told to pay back so I can't help you yet.

TROOBLUE1878 · 03/03/2015 17:49

And as for bieng a joke well i was sort of thrown in the deep end after fighting two family court battles over visitation and then custody my ex partner passed suddenly so C.T.C.were all a bit of a mystery ....seems like quite a lot of posts seem to have missed the C.M. was a family friend and was in total agreement with her fees so as for nmw whatever this whole country is bs and as for its tax laws you all meed to wake up and smell the coffee

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/03/2015 17:55

you said you employed a friends daughter implying a nanny, hence the nmw

you do not employ cm - they give you their rates, which again at £25 is very cheap, but up to her - but again if not registered then you cant claim

LineRunner · 03/03/2015 17:55

So you have to repay childcare tax credits?

SoonToBeSix · 03/03/2015 18:21

Op are you American do you not understand the Uk tax system?

Pico2 · 03/03/2015 19:05

This country may be bs, but we aren't the ones owing £3500 and asking for advice. If you would like help then you will need to clarify your situation.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/03/2015 19:38

And maybe not throw a hissy fit when you don't get the answers you want...

adp73 · 04/03/2015 15:27

Who knows what she is or has been doing. She can't string a sensible sentence together or remember back as far as her first post so goodness only knows what is going on!! LOL!

PatriciaHolm · 04/03/2015 15:36

Oh dear. Toys back in pram, OP. I'm not sure what you wanted out of this thread? You are illegally employing a non-registered childcarer, paying well below minimum wage, and your posts make very little sense. Did you actually want advice on anything or did you just want people to go "Aw Huns it's fine you don't have to pay proper wages/taxes/debts.." - in which case the exit is over there....

Kitkat80 · 04/03/2015 16:27

There is nothing wrong with the tax laws in this country. They are in fact what funded your tax credits in the first place.

TROOBLUE1878 · 05/03/2015 11:15

There seem to be an awful lot of condescending do gooding goody two shoes only too eager to put my in my place and i thought trolls were only found in fairy tales.originally i only asked weather you knew of anyone else in a similar situation.

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PatriciaHolm · 05/03/2015 11:43

But you haven't actually told us what that situation is.

Why mention trolls? No-one here did.

PotteringAlong · 05/03/2015 11:49

Your situation is, if I've read it correctly, that you've tried to claim tax relief on things you are not entitled to and, therefore, the inland revenue think you owe more tax than you think you do. Is that right?

You won't change uk tax law. You need to pay up.

nannynick · 05/03/2015 12:07

i only asked weather you knew of anyone else in a similar situation.

We do not know of anyone else in your situation.

Is that the answer you wanted?

No doubt there are many people out there who own Inland Revenue money for one reason or another. HMRC have a very basic factsheet about Bankruptcy www.hmrc.gov.uk/factsheets/ef5.pdf

Have you tried to discuss a payment proposal with them? Your debt is not that high an amount and if you have a job it could be deducted at source from your income using PAYE over a tax year. Surely it is worth discussing with them about repaying the debt rather than going bankrupt.

NerrSnerr · 05/03/2015 12:25

What do you want from this thread OP?

Advice on how to find legal childcare? A new job with better hours? How to talk to the tax man to pay them back?

SoonToBeSix · 06/03/2015 10:29

Op what do you owe the money for? It is a simple question you seem unable to answer so it's easy to help.

adp73 · 06/03/2015 20:17

Sounds as if she has claimed tax credits for too much and unregistered care. What I would love to know is which poor devils Registration number she used to claim the Tax Credits in the first place. People like this should have all benefits stopped and never be allowed any help towards childcare again. It is the only way they will stop fraudulent claims.

If she doesn't repay she will be taken to court and could serve a prison sentence.

Nicadooby · 12/03/2015 22:38

TROOBLUE 1878. So is the friends daughter a registered childminder?

If so they are saying they over paid you as you made more money than you thought you would. As far a I know they will recoup that money from your future payments from them. From memory there is a maximum % they can take back each week

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