how many hrs pw does a livein nanny do?

[NappiesGalore]

and are they supposed to have food paid for outside of working hours?

Yep, room and board 24 hours a day. They can work as many hours as you and she (or he) agree.

Mine works 60 hours per week, plus babysitting which is as per prior agreement.

My nanny starts at 7.30am and finishes at 7pm.She will babysit up to 3 nights a week but to behonest,she costs us so much I can't afford to go out any more!

She goes home at weekends but if she didn't I would provide her food.

Mine does 49 hours "on duty" though because DD1 is quite demanding, she tends to finish some of the domestic stuff outside those hours.

Per the contract, I only pay for food while working because that was the wording I found in a lot of standard contracts, so I thought it was usual. In practice, I pay for a weekly internet shop and she pays for whatever she eats on trips out (eg if she wants cake in the cafe at soft play). It's easier for both of us to minimise expense claims.

Oh, should have said - plus 2 evenings babysitting per week, plus 3 weekends per year. Though we use 1 evening babysitting in practice and are yet to take up a weekend. I put it in the contract in case we need to go to a wedding or something where we can't take children.

I think it is normal for a live in nanny to do up to a 12 hour day with 2 babysits per week and ALL food provided

Daily nannies tend to work a day thats nearer 10 hours with 1 babysit...

tho ofcourse it all depends what parents / nanny agree to in the contract.... some work more . others a bit less

ok, thanks. pretty variable, but it gives me a good idea of what seems reasonable to ask for.
cheers

Hi i am a nanny in West London. I work 12 hours a day with 2 nights a week babysitting from Mon-Thurs. If it a Fri ar Sat i get paid £7 an hour :)

ALL food is included i've never had a job where i had to buy my own food at the weekend but i must admit i keep myself to myself at the weekends to give us all some space. Basically in my experience as a live in nanny everything is included so there are lots of hidden extras!!!

Hope that helps and good luck !

im a live in nanny, i work 7am-6pm 4 days a week, all my food is paid for, but if i fancy something that they havent got i get it myself! i visit my parents or the b/f at the weekends, so am not usually around if i was they would provide food. this is my first live in job, and the first nanny for them, and have been here nearly a year, its gone by so fast! its a nice tranistion to moving away from home, but not out on my own yet, next stop, my own morgage!

em xxx

does the working time directive not apply to nannies then?

I used to have the hours of 7am-7pm in my last job and i'd do two free babysits per week, which were Sun,Mon,Tue,Wed,Thur (I did not do Fri or Sat) I had sole use of a car and came and went as I pleased outside of working hours, If you are having a live in nanny everything is included, all bills, food etc. Although you may want to think about the phone bill.
A job previous to that one I worked Tues to Sat, tues-fri 8am 6pm and sat 9am 4pm. I did two free baby sits on tue wed thur fri and had use of car again. And free range on food and I did the shopping in both jobs so brought what i wanted to eat too.

ok. so you get very little free time, but just about everything paid for. hmmm. cant say id want to be a nanny if thats the deal, but glad some people do, coz i need one!

how about part time? is there such a thing as a part time nanny you also give accomodation to? anyone have any experience of that?

have been doing a bit more asking about round here so i may be able to find some live out assistance anyway, but is good to know all this. thank you all.

carlk - apparently not!

Our nanny does 7:20 to 4, but if we work late, she on duty till we get home. No weekends.
We include all meals, including weekend.
She has a separate phone, and an agreed limit above which she pays.
We're going to get a Skype phone for the new nanny though.

Where abouts do you live nappiesgalore???

roughly in between southampton, salisbury and winchester. nearest town is romsey. por que?

NappiesGalore! I was wondering where you were.....
And big congratulations on DS3 - is there a birth announcement on MN?

Just wondered because obviously if you are out of London nannies fees are less...

Re the working hours, there is a particularly ridiculous nationwide Nanny Agency who claims that if nannies work over a certain amount of time - I forget what it is now - they should have a 15 minute break! Very sensible:

"Hi kids yes go and play on the road now, just putting my feet up for 15 minutes!"

Said nanny agency also failed to let us know that 4 years previous to hiring a nanny she had been banned from 4 agencies in the area for 'being weird'! Soon found out, one week prior to having baby number 3 she was VERY weird! Drove around the tennis court in her Ka!!!!!! She also tried it on with my husband, 2 of his single friends and started texting a girlfriend of mine to claim she was having an affair with her husband - nice girl.

C&N - !! a bit scary having a such a nutter in your house. were u ever worried she might do something violent?? you could sell the film rights to that story!

blu - hiya! never been to birth announcement bit... i'll stick it on the (3 mile) 'to do' list! i tend to just fart about on silly chat threads. and trade prams. and lurk. . been a bit, um, snowed under actually. not really myself quite a bit of the time, but hey ho. getting better and sure things'll get easier

pol25 - fees are less.. but hours are the same? why does anyone want to do it?? are you all mad?

My wonderful nanny does work from 7.30am to 7pm,however,she has a good 3hrs off when DD is asleep as I do all cooking for DD and she has only nursery duties to worry about.
My choice but I wanted someone who,in my absence could be totally devoted to Dd when I am not around so she needs a break.She chooses whatever she wants to eat,has a Martini and lemonade after DD is in bed every night,has a brand new car to use and I would pay her more if I could.
I found her myself having had dreadful experiences with agencies,she is ony 20 but is very much part of the family.
She leaves in August to train as a midwife and I am DREADING having to rcruit a replacement.
Having someone live in your house is far from easy (unless you have an extra "wing") but if you get the right person then it canwork.
My nanny found the "nannyjob" website butchooses not to participate owing to the amount of nannies constantly moaning about their lot.I can understand some of the moaning but my personal view is it has to be give and take on both sides.

Good luck.

NG - I saw that you were feeling a bit knocked for six. Have you had extended baby blues before, or PND?
You talked to anyone?

36 - exactly, having someone in your house is all about give and take - but there are also limits.

If you worked in an office would you go crying to your boss because you had been dumped? I don't think so. We have had nannies ever since the kids were born, I was a Nanny for 18 months before Uni - so I know what they do if they are a. pissed off with the job or b. just plain pissed off!! The Chanel jacket just wasn't the same after the trip to a notorious London club ......

C&N-I agree with you-my point was that as a whole,employers seem to give and often not get reciprocal behaviour.You would not expect someone in an office to cry on the bosses shoulder but when someone lives in your house I do think the realtionship is slightly different.
I know how very lucky I am to have the nanny I have and that is why I will do everything possible to make her life with us enjoyable.
However,this is only because she has been so fantastic-had she been sulky,untidy,late etc then my behaviour towards her would have been different.
Like everything in life unfortunately once bitten....twice shy.